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  • #6,101
  • Dec 30, 2010 6:53am Dec 30, 2010 6:53am
Quoting kibescorp
I find it interesting how MB Trading always subtracts the rollover from your account but never ADDS it.

For example, if I hold a SHORT EUR/USD position past 17:00 EST, I immediately get that -0.50% premium subtracted from my account, but if I'm LONG on the pair, I NEVER get the +0.15% added.

It's a pretty dick thing to do, to post "positive" and "negative" premiums but only ever SUBTRACT money from accounts.
Sounds like something is messed up on your account, I get paid on the occasion that I hold over in a positive premium direction. I assume you called into their support desk and asked? What did they say?
  • #6,102
  • Dec 30, 2010 8:57am Dec 30, 2010 8:57am
Quoting PoundTrader
im not confuse but why not have it vice versa, MB Trading Future for equity/futures and MB Trading for forex. what was thought behind that process? just thought i ask
Poundtrader,

MB Trading has been in existence for over a decade as a stock broker. That’s how we were originally set up (and then added options and futures). You can do all of that under the SEC and FINRA (used to be NASD). Those all “clear” through an entity (Penson for us). When we went to add Forex, since we were never going to be a deal desk, we had to set up a separate Clearing operation and it had to fall under the NFA and CFTC, which has the words Futures in their titles even though they regulate Forex. So, we named that entity MB Trading Futures (suppose we could have named it MB Trading Forex or something, but the name doesn’t really matter and we will likely do other things under the entity that won’t be just Forex anyway). So when you open a stock, options, and/or futures account, you are opening with MBT. When you open a forex account, you are opening with MBTF. A lot of the support staff is the same between the two entities, and the technology and routing engine that we win all of the awards for is the same. However, that is the reason that you can’t trade stocks, futures, options, and forex in one account. If we were self-clearing for Forex (i.e. a deal desk), then we could. It’s also the reason that we participate in global rollover at 5 pm EST every day with all of the major banks. A deal desk wouldn’t have to do that because all trading would be internal between us and our customers. We don’t trade against our customers, so we have a 5-minute window where we “settle” for “clearing purposes” each day along with the majors. Any broker that doesn’t have that downtime window is a desk in some form.

Hope that helps.
  • #6,103
  • Dec 30, 2010 3:30pm Dec 30, 2010 3:30pm
Quoting jleblang
Poundtrader,...
are you saying it's impossible to be a STP OR ECN broker if that broker don't have a downtime for rollover/settlement/clearing at 5pm est? or is it just ECN brokers?
  • #6,104
  • Jan 2, 2011 4:12pm Jan 2, 2011 4:12pm
Hey guys just wondering whether it is possible to have multiple charts open at the same time with MBT desktop pro? IF so how? cheers
  • #6,105
  • Jan 2, 2011 4:54pm Jan 2, 2011 4:54pm
Quoting doritos123
Hey guys just wondering whether it is possible to have multiple charts open at the same time with MBT desktop pro? IF so how? cheers
Yes I think you have to change the instrument in the main window, and then click new chart or something like that. I did it last time I had it open. Right now it refuses to open and just crashes so I can't look at it. But yes definitely possible. Have you looked at the help file? That's usually the best place to go for things like this. I'm trying to learn ninja right now which totally blows MBT software out of the water.
  • #6,106
  • Jan 2, 2011 6:09pm Jan 2, 2011 6:09pm
Quoting doritos123
Hey guys just wondering whether it is possible to have multiple charts open at the same time with MBT desktop pro? IF so how? cheers

You might want to take a look at NinjaTrader 7. It's free to use as a charting, system development and backtesting platform with free data from MBT.

You would continue to use a special version of Navigator for order entry, but gain the great full featured charting of NinjaTrader... check it out.

Download free version here:

http://www.ninjatrader.com/download-registration.php

Special page with MBT Connection Guide here:

http://www.ninjatrader.com/Connectio...tion-Guide.php
  • #6,107
  • Jan 2, 2011 10:12pm Jan 2, 2011 10:12pm
Is it possible to select use BID price for buy stop order?
Use ASK price for sell stop order?

I like this function to be same as dukascopy. It really help me for false break out and avoid spread GAP
  • #6,108
  • Jan 2, 2011 10:26pm Jan 2, 2011 10:26pm
Quoting PoundTrader
are you saying it's impossible to be a STP OR ECN broker if that broker don't have a downtime for rollover/settlement/clearing at 5pm est? or is it just ECN brokers?
Of course. Isn't that obvious?
  • #6,109
  • Jan 2, 2011 10:45pm Jan 2, 2011 10:45pm
can you please tell me if they allow hedging?
  • #6,110
  • Jan 2, 2011 11:41pm Jan 2, 2011 11:41pm
Quoting IndyTrader
Of course. Isn't that obvious?
i like to here from a broker on this matter :nerd:
  • #6,111
  • Jan 3, 2011 3:34am Jan 3, 2011 3:34am
Quoting ANotTidyMany
can you please tell me if they allow hedging?
nope :|
  • #6,112
  • Jan 3, 2011 4:27am Jan 3, 2011 4:27am
Quoting JoshDance
Yes I think you have to change the instrument in the main window, and then click new chart or something like that. I did it last time I had it open. Right now it refuses to open and just crashes so I can't look at it. But yes definitely possible. Have you looked at the help file? That's usually the best place to go for things like this. I'm trying to learn ninja right now which totally blows MBT software out of the water.
Yeah i've looked through the help but can't find where it says i can do this. I know you can open a new chart, but what i wanted was a new chart with a different symbol i.e. one chart showing aud/usd and another showing gbp/usd etc
  • #6,113
  • Jan 3, 2011 4:30am Jan 3, 2011 4:30am
Quoting Crassius
You might want to take a look at NinjaTrader 7. It's free to use as a charting, system development and backtesting platform with free data from MBT.

You would continue to use a special version of Navigator for order entry, but gain the great full featured charting of NinjaTrader... check it out.

Download free version here:

http://www.ninjatrader.com/download-registration.php

Special page with MBT Connection Guide here:

http://www.ninjatrader.com/Connectio...tion-Guide.php
thanks mate will check it out
  • #6,114
  • Jan 3, 2011 12:16pm Jan 3, 2011 12:16pm
Quoting doritos123
Yeah i've looked through the help but can't find where it says i can do this. I know you can open a new chart, but what i wanted was a new chart with a different symbol i.e. one chart showing aud/usd and another showing gbp/usd etc
doritos,

Here is a link to a short video on using the charts with MBT Desktop Pro - this should help you.

MBT Desktop Pro Charting
  • #6,115
  • Jan 3, 2011 12:17pm Jan 3, 2011 12:17pm
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  • #6,116
  • Jan 3, 2011 4:55pm Jan 3, 2011 4:55pm
Quoting PoundTrader
i like to here from a broker on this matter :nerd:
Yes, that is correct. In order to operate through global rollover and settlement, a broker would have to have a deal desk.
  • #6,117
  • Jan 4, 2011 9:25pm Jan 4, 2011 9:25pm
I browsed through your website today. Am I correct to think that only way to fund my forex account is through checks?
  • #6,118
  • Jan 4, 2011 9:49pm Jan 4, 2011 9:49pm
Is there anyone on here using NT7 that does not have a problem accessing Range Bars, Second Bars, Tick charts, (anything other than minute bars) ?

Quite a few NT users have been complaining about this.
  • #6,119
  • Jan 4, 2011 9:55pm Jan 4, 2011 9:55pm
Quoting iferdous
I browsed through your website today. Am I correct to think that only way to fund my forex account is through checks?
I have funded my acct. electonically from my checking acct. using ACH transfer. I have also gone to my bank and wired money to MB on a couple of occasions . Never had a problem.

Go here http://mbtrading.com/forexDeposits.aspx and click on the grey bars labeled "Wire" and "ACH".
  • #6,120
  • Jan 5, 2011 3:10am Jan 5, 2011 3:10am
In reply to my prior post, historical tick data seems to working for now on nt7. Range bars are working for me. I'm not sure if it was an NT or MB problem. Good Luck.
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