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  • #16,061
  • Edited 1:03pm Dec 21, 2010 12:46pm | Edited 1:03pm
AU:

Initiated new SonicR short at .09959. Now, to see what the market decides.....late session run, or no late session run. TP and SL per attached pic.
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  • #16,062
  • Dec 21, 2010 12:49pm Dec 21, 2010 12:49pm
Quoting traderathome
AU:

Surprisingly, this has continued up while others have already been turned. And now, this looks to be setting up for a SonicR short, albeit late in the day.

It could happen. A late session run down. And tomorrow is Wednesday, middle of the week and maybe a bang up day for forex.....before all goes to sleep until January. And maybe a bang up day for a continuation run down on this pair.

I am already in this short, with an average cost of 0.9933.

WARNING: Speculation!
3rd divergence on the chart and the MACD, good signal
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  • #16,063
  • Dec 21, 2010 3:52pm Dec 21, 2010 3:52pm
Hi TAH,
this is my first post on FF. I appreciate your work because i want to improve my concepts about what make markets to move.
But I have some questions.
1 - Large movements in price are caused only by PPMs action?
2 - In an uptrend (or downtrend ) price continue to move up (or down) until PPMs can absorb the most of selling orders ( or buying orders)?

Thats all for now.
Thanks
Andrew
  • #16,064
  • Dec 21, 2010 4:07pm Dec 21, 2010 4:07pm
AU:

On this current pump, I added at 0.9981. Now the average on this 2nd AU short trade is 0.9970.
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  • #16,065
  • Dec 21, 2010 4:22pm Dec 21, 2010 4:22pm
Quoting andrew1974
Hi TAH,
this is my first post on FF. I appreciate your work because i want to improve my concepts about what make markets to move.
But I have some questions.
1 - Large movements in price are caused only by PPMs action?
2 - In an uptrend (or downtrend ) price continue to move up (or down) until PPMs can absorb the most of selling orders ( or buying orders)?

Thats all for now.
Thanks
Andrew
1. - No. For example, central banks can intervene, buy or sell large amounts of some currency, causing a price change in pairs with the currency. Another example is a news release of genuine economic impact on some currency could suddenly turn a lot of traders to buyers or sellers, that beforehand were not.

2. - No. Wrong concept. There are places on the price scale where large buy or sell orders exist, and will start getting executed if and when price gets there. General movement of the price depends on if overall there are more buyers or sellers at any given time. When PPMs come into play (to manipulate the price up to short, or down to buy) it doesn't make any difference if there are more buyers or sellers at the time. The PPMs play overrides "market conditions". That is why I call them Professional Price Manipulators; they manipulate the price any which way they want to for a short while, no matter what the market was otherwise doing.
  • #16,066
  • Dec 21, 2010 6:05pm Dec 21, 2010 6:05pm
TAH and all,
I came across this strategy and it seems to be very consistent and I would like to learn how to trade this strat. Could you provide a link as to where I can get the latest rules and indicators.

Thanks
  • #16,067
  • Edited 8:52pm Dec 21, 2010 6:06pm | Edited 8:52pm
Quoting traderathome
In the released templates, the MACD and Volume indicators reside in the same window. The External Input settings for them are such that the MACD displays on higher TFs and the Volume displays on lower TFs.

If you want both to display on all TFs, simply delete Volume from the chart list of indicators, and then add it back as a separate window. Then change the External Inputs for both indicators so they display on all TFs.

Your chart will then look like in the attached pic. Save that template with a new name, so you can distinguish it from the...
Thank you very much.I have another question.How to make the best use of volume ?
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1292983104

Why EURUSD don't go up?There are no H,L,HL.AND how to With volume ?
My English is no good.SORRY
  • #16,068
  • Dec 21, 2010 6:09pm Dec 21, 2010 6:09pm
Here is just a hint of what is going on with these two pairs

AUD/USD in its highest with great volume
USD/JPY in its lowest with great volume, but with this pair finding a support in 1995, with a consistent decline of approx. 55º and showing a 4th hike forming at the 2 last candles. Fib. 0 to 23.6 = 1000 pips round and 0 to 38.2 = 1600 pips to go, may be there room for some long term long trade, well if it doesnt stall more

Just two cents.
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  • #16,069
  • Dec 21, 2010 6:16pm Dec 21, 2010 6:16pm
Guys,

Am not a very gd fan of divergence as I understand how it woks..


Sonic
  • #16,070
  • Dec 21, 2010 6:34pm Dec 21, 2010 6:34pm
Is the SonicRV3 zip file on page 1 the most updated version of this strategy?
  • #16,071
  • Edited 8:48pm Dec 21, 2010 8:28pm | Edited 8:48pm
Quoting traderathome
60 pips profit on this short trade just closed, per attached.
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1292983104
Why EURUSD don't go up?There are no H,L,HL.AND how to With volume ?
My English is no good.SORRY
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  • #16,072
  • Dec 21, 2010 8:28pm Dec 21, 2010 8:28pm
Quoting nikim
Is the SonicRV3 zip file on page 1 the most updated version of this strategy?
Start from Page 1. Download any version you like. All work! SonicR V3 is lastest version. Study the Manual and go through every pages of this thread. Many thing you can learn from this thread. Be Patience. Keep Open Mind!

Happy Pippin' !

TraderViet
  • #16,073
  • Dec 21, 2010 10:52pm Dec 21, 2010 10:52pm
Quoting nikim
TAH and all,
I came across this strategy and it seems to be very consistent and I would like to learn how to trade this strat. Could you provide a link as to where I can get the latest rules and indicators.

Thanks
Welcome nikim,

The rules are very well laid out in the first post and the first dozen or so of Sonic's posts. If you want to learn the Sonic R System, read the thread. It is the course, and it contains many examples, of both good and of failed trades. Here is the link to last release of templates and indicators:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...ostcount=15443


regards,
-TAH
  • #16,074
  • Edited 11:50pm Dec 21, 2010 11:15pm | Edited 11:50pm
Quoting lirongguang
Thank you very much.I have another question.How to make the best use of volume ?
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1292983104

Why EURUSD don't go up?There are no H,L,HL.AND how to With volume ?
My English is no good.SORRY
Well, if you were to ask some of the best traders how to make best use of the volume, they might say, "Foget it.".

Seriously, focus on such things as S&R, PA WAVES, angle of the Dragon, etc. The most important clue from volume is that it relatively increases during the completion of the second leg of the WAVE, the leg that is moving opposite the direction the breakout will go. Only use volume as confrimation during a good WAVE construction. Focus on the things mentioned first, because they come first and are FOREMOST.

The pic attached gives an example. You can see the PA bouncing at S&R, the WAVE with higher H/Ls, the Dragon is angled up, and a target area can be selected based on the PA bounce at the S&R area and the average range. Volume comes last, but here you can see the relative increase during the construction of the second leg of the WAVE.

Regards,
-TAH
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  • #16,075
  • Edited Dec 22, 2010 12:59am Dec 21, 2010 11:39pm | Edited Dec 22, 2010 12:59am
AU:

My current assessment for upcoming trading hours....

Edit: Added 2nd pic. As with GU below, you can see the asian/early euro traders went to the well a second time. As with the first WAVE, the second leg of the second WAVE shows a relative increase in volume also.
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  • #16,076
  • Edited Dec 22, 2010 12:10am Dec 21, 2010 11:44pm | Edited Dec 22, 2010 12:10am
GU:

My current assessment for upcoming trading hours.....

Edit: Added 2nd pic. Asian traders helped with the second leg of the first WAVE. But here you can see the asian/early euro traders went back to well, creating a second wave. As with the first WAVE, the second leg of the second WAVE shows a relative increase in volume also.
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  • #16,077
  • Dec 22, 2010 12:03am Dec 22, 2010 12:03am
Quoting traderathome
Well, if you were to ask some of the best traders how to make best use of the volume, they might say, "Foget it.".

Seriously, focus on such things as S&R, PA WAVES, angle of the Dragon, etc. The most important clue from volume is that it relatively increases during the completion of the second leg of the WAVE, the leg that is moving opposite the direction the breakout will go. Only use volume as confrimation during a good WAVE construction. Focus on the things mentioned first, because they come first and are FOREMOST.

The pic attached...
OK.Thank you very much!
  • #16,078
  • Dec 22, 2010 1:09am Dec 22, 2010 1:09am
GJ:

Assessment.
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  • #16,079
  • Dec 22, 2010 2:04am Dec 22, 2010 2:04am
Hi:

Is PUMP & DUMP happening on GU?

Regards.
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  • #16,080
  • Dec 22, 2010 2:16am Dec 22, 2010 2:16am
GU:

There goes a PPM, working on GU....lowered the price to load up on longs.

WARNING: Speculation!
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