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  • #338,161
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:45pm Dec 2, 2010 7:45pm
all I know is that something really really big will happen within the next 5 years, not only me but others seem to be feeling it too. either it will be a natural disaster, war/economic collapse/a point where the middle class will no longer have a meaning. Everything has a cycle just like what you see on the charts. even earth's life has a cycle, when I say everything I mean everything, even your life can be seen as a chart, As I'm writing this it also reminded me of the Kondratiev cycles, here I'll put the chart, anyways i don't want your brains to explode all over your monitor but start loving the people who you hate and care more about the people around you
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  • #338,162
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:47pm Dec 2, 2010 7:47pm
Quoting mikej2010
I think yesterday the usd/jpy was only 12pip movement{s} ... this is better then that.
ONLY!! That's why i stopped trade also this pair
  • #338,163
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:47pm Dec 2, 2010 7:47pm
Quoting Robot
all I know is that something really really big will happen within the next 5 years, not only me but others seem to be feeling it too. either it will be a natural disaster, war/economic collapse/a point where the middle class will no longer have a meaning. Everything has a cycle just like what you see on the charts. even earth's life has a cycle, when I say everything I mean everything, even your life can be seen as a chart, As I'm writing this it also reminded me of the Kondratiev cycles, here I'll put the chart, anyways i don't want your brains...
I couldn't agree more. The numbers just don't add up. It's not even mathematics, it's arithmetic... additions and subtractions.
  • #338,164
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:50pm Dec 2, 2010 7:50pm
Quoting mfoste1
heres ucad
LOL, I don't c a trend ! They can it i think looney toony
  • #338,165
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:51pm Dec 2, 2010 7:51pm
Quoting Robot
all I know is that something really really big will happen within the next 5 years, not only me but others seem to be feeling it too. either it will be a natural disaster, war/economic collapse/a point where the middle class will no longer have a meaning. Everything has a cycle just like what you see on the charts. even earth's life has a cycle, when I say everything I mean everything, even your life can be seen as a chart, As I'm writing this it also reminded me of the Kondratiev cycles, here I'll put the chart, anyways i don't want your brains...
Quoting attila
I couldn't agree more. The numbers just don't add up. It's not even mathematics, it's arithmetic... additions and subtractions.
No offense, but this isn't anything new. War, Greed, Natural Disasters, it's no worse then it was 100, 1000, 5000 years ago.

Technically & society might change, but human emotion has always been the same.

Age doesn't bring wisdom, experience does ...
  • #338,166
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:55pm Dec 2, 2010 7:55pm
Quoting egkid
LOL, I don't c a trend ! They can it i think looney toony

heres the daily....bullish pattern
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  • #338,167
  • Dec 2, 2010 7:57pm Dec 2, 2010 7:57pm
Quoting mikej2010
No offense, but this isn't anything new. War, Greed, Natural Disasters, it's no worse then it was 100, 1000, 5000 years ago.

Technically & society might change, but human emotion has always been the same.

Age doesn't bring wisdom, experience does ...
Right. The 08 crisis only showed the small cracks in the system. What we've seen till now is nothing. The deep structural problems are yet to be seen, and it's not gonna be pretty. Take U.S alone. Everybody's talking about the 13T. Well, the real number (if you take states, unfunded liabilities, etc.) is actually 160T. This is one of those once every few hundred years crossroads.
  • #338,168
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:00pm Dec 2, 2010 8:00pm
Quoting mfoste1
heres the daily....bullish pattern
And accumulation on intraday.

out...cya for london
COT: The precious data ignored
  • #338,169
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:07pm Dec 2, 2010 8:07pm
Quoting attila
Right. The 08 crisis only showed the small cracks in the system. What we've seen till now is nothing. The deep structural problems are yet to be seen, and it's not gonna be pretty. Take U.S only. Everybody's talking about the 13T. Well, the real number (if you take states, unfunded liabilities, etc.) is actually 160T. This is one of those once every few hundred years crossroads.
Oil {we have a lot of it, there is a 'reason' why we are using the rest of the worlds} 50 years alone worth for whole u.s. in Alaska alone, and then + gulf + Texas, etc.

Natural gas & coal, plenty of it. I mean PLENTY of it

Food .... we have a lot of it ... Like I said before, we ship sooo much food overseas.

Water {future high value commodity} and we have more then anyone of it for the most part.

land - plenty of it

defense contracts, as I stated before, we get paid billions per year, 10's of not 100's , for our defenses around the world. UAE, Japan, Saudi, Europe, Canada, Latin america, etc.

Gold, Silver, etc., we probably own the most of it. The IMF is the worlds 3rd largest holder of gold ... who funds {owns IMO} the IMF?

again ... farm land, we have it developed quite well.

Lumber anyone? Steel anyone?

We beat out the Middle East in almost any category.

China can compete with us, but they have 1.3+ population to sustain while we have .3 billion. & they don't have as many resources all & all as us developed.

Russia doesn't have crap for farm land, that is why they import tons of meat from us.

the list goes on & on, we are fine, we have very high value.

Think about it this way, if the 'financial' world collapsed ... are in we debt to China in gold? silver? oil? water? wood? food? nope, we are in debt to them with Bonds & paper. And the value of our debt is decreasing, not neglecting anything ... just stating that we can sustain life for 100's of years to come with the same standards.

With all due respect, that is just a naive/inexperienced/conspiracy driven point of view in my eyes.

Last Note : our debt is in USD, remember that.

Edit/

Please explain what 'financial' crisis we are in, if all you can say is 'paper'; then I'm not worried.
  • #338,170
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:12pm Dec 2, 2010 8:12pm
Quoting mfoste1
heres the daily....bullish pattern
Seems u used to trade and have experience with it, That good
  • #338,171
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:12pm Dec 2, 2010 8:12pm
Quoting attila
Right. The 08 crisis only showed the small cracks in the system. What we've seen till now is nothing. The deep structural problems are yet to be seen, and it's not gonna be pretty. Take U.S alone. Everybody's talking about the 13T. Well, the real number (if you take states, unfunded liabilities, etc.) is actually 160T. This is one of those once every few hundred years crossroads.
use the same formula comparably against gdp. Ireland alone would be 700 trillion. food for thought. when the lion comes the man with a broken leg just has to out run the man with 2 broken legs.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #338,172
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:13pm Dec 2, 2010 8:13pm
Quoting mikej2010
Oil {we have a lot of it, there is a 'reason' why we are using the rest of the worlds} 50 years alone worth for whole u.s. in Alaska + gulf + Texas, etc.

Natural gas & coal, plenty of it. I mean PLENTY of it

Food .... we have a lot of it ... Like I said before, we ship sooo much food overseas....

No argument here. US is extremely rich in natural resources, but to be honest I am not fond of going off the grid and start farming the land.

One can have all the riches in the world and he/she can squander them in no time, and we already did. What you are saying true, but is just one side of the equation.
  • #338,173
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:16pm Dec 2, 2010 8:16pm
Quoting mikej2010
No offense, but this isn't anything new. War, Greed, Natural Disasters, it's no worse then it was 100, 1000, 5000 years ago.

Technically & society might change, but human emotion has always been the same.

Age doesn't bring wisdom, experience does ...
the earth always cleanses itself. man is a disease. all we touch, we fu..
have you ever tried panda?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #338,174
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:16pm Dec 2, 2010 8:16pm
Quoting gatorinla
use the same formula comparably against gdp. Ireland alone would be 700 trillion. food for thought. when the lion comes the man with a broken leg just has to out run the man with 2 broken legs.

The question is, is it sustainable (without wars and other trickery)? Who said that if something is unsustainable it will simply not continue?

Don't get me wrong, I am more bullish on U.S than any other country (or continent for that matter).
  • #338,175
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:22pm Dec 2, 2010 8:22pm
Quoting attila
No argument here. US is extremely rich in natural resources, but to be honest I am not fond of going off the grid and start farming the land.

One can have all the riches in the world and he/she can squander them in no time, and we already did. What you are saying true, but is just one side of the equation.
You want to know how I know, sorry think, we are fine.

We trade CARBON CREDITS for goodness sake, people are getting rich off of carbon credits. That is so idiotic ... but it happens.

This whole global warming, end of world, BS is just that ... a bunch of BS.

We have only partially covered one layer of this earth ...

You want to not have heating/cooling cost? build your home under ground

you want to save on water? do what we did, install a water well {modern one - not the 1800's style} and that is the best tasting water.

you want to save food cost? grow your own!

etc.

the year of 1814 or 1812, sometime around there was the year of no summer & it snowed Red in parts of Europe. This was called the 'end of the world'.

No, the global climate kept it cold any many parts of the world and volcano eruption mixed with the atmosphere causing red snow. Easy, there was an Ice-age & the opposite.

The world isn't going, do some research on "Purchasing Power Parity" - this will almost guarantee that there will never be 'extreme' fluctuation in currency parity.

What do you do when you go to the store, you trade your money for a gallon of milk. If milk rises in price, you debate of that exchange/trade is worth it.

As long as there is something to trade, economies will flow.
  • #338,176
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:24pm Dec 2, 2010 8:24pm
Quoting attila
The question is, is it sustainable (without wars and other trickery)? Who said that if something is unsustainable it will simply not continue?

Don't get me wrong, I am more bullish on U.S than any other country (or continent for that matter).
like I said, "Purchasing Power Parity"
  • #338,177
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:27pm Dec 2, 2010 8:27pm
Quoting mikej2010
This whole global warming, end of world, BS is just that ... a bunch of BS.
What's funny about this is that everybody is blaming the man for this, but nobody is looking into solar activity cycles.
What a hoax..
  • #338,178
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:30pm Dec 2, 2010 8:30pm
good morning everyone
  • #338,179
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:38pm Dec 2, 2010 8:38pm
Quoting mikej2010
Oil {we have a lot of it, there is a 'reason' why we are using the rest of the worlds} 50 years alone worth for whole u.s. in Alaska alone, and then + gulf + Texas, etc.

Natural gas & coal, plenty of it. I mean PLENTY of it

Food .... we have a lot of it ... Like I said before, we ship sooo much food overseas....
Please check your facts. For one thing, the US is a net food importer. You do not produce enough food for your own country. Water is a major problem in much of the western US.

These are facts that I am sure of but I suspect that much of the rest of your information is equally flawed.
  • #338,180
  • Dec 2, 2010 8:39pm Dec 2, 2010 8:39pm
Quoting attila
The question is, is it sustainable (without wars and other trickery)? Who said that if something is unsustainable it will simply not continue?

Don't get me wrong, I am more bullish on U.S than any other country (or continent for that matter).
nothing last forever. we will live till we die. our ancestors are thieves and murderous. they were the smarter, faster, and strongest (lucky?) of them all. many died for us to be here. so hello to your banjo playing brother. wash rinse repeat. the earth will cleanse itself. man may help it

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