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  • #309,101
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:39pm Oct 18, 2010 6:39pm
Quoting Venice
I would definitely prefer whipsaws then sideways though... at least the whip saws are trad able.
i'd prefer a chainsaw through my head atm...
  • #309,102
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:41pm Oct 18, 2010 6:41pm
Bears are messin with my momentum mannnn....
  • #309,103
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:45pm Oct 18, 2010 6:45pm
Quoting Popee83
Mathematics mate. Not trend-lines and such technical analysis garbage. I have learned the hard way back in 2004 that only 2 factors operate in financial markets - Economic news/projections and Mathematics. Once one is absent, the other takes precedence.

I usually look at charts posted here with amazement. All those lines x-crossing with no Math behind them. No wonder Brokers keep popping by the day - the harvest is great.
oh economics works does it ? so please explain why tf dj is 11xxxx

The only thing that works in trading is supply and demand. I agree on the trend lines and technical indies like rsi etc being suspect but they can help. Simple horizontal s/r lines are all that is required.

1.4000 to 1.3930 is current channel till it isn't

each one of those red lines is a high volume point of control from each trading day for the last 20 trading days . THey form support / resistance not pivots or some fancy trendlines or moving averages. The buy / sell zones are right there on the charts

Not sure on your math comment.... really not a lot of calculus required for trading .. at least I have never used my engineering degree to trade

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  • #309,104
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:45pm Oct 18, 2010 6:45pm
Quoting mfoste1
you should show us an example of your methods
Manual calculations using a note book of β and δ mean values. Just like J. Livermore did use manual arithmetics, he didn't have charts to draw trend lines on, yet he got it right most of the time. Until new rules (SEC regulation after 1929 crash) were introduced in the Game and he go cleaned out - he couldn't adjust to the new rules of the game.
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  • #309,105
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:46pm Oct 18, 2010 6:46pm
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  • #309,106
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:52pm Oct 18, 2010 6:52pm
Quoting malcolmb14

The only thing that works in trading is supply and demand.
Just continue believing that, and where does the demand and supply come from - you seem to forget dealers plunge in spot only during news, Once done, they fire-up their algorithmic programs for accumulation and distribution purposes. Pure Mathematics - no trendlines
"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." - Albert Einstein
  • #309,107
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:53pm Oct 18, 2010 6:53pm
Quoting redsword11
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Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Market is always right !
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  • #309,108
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:53pm Oct 18, 2010 6:53pm
Intraday trendlines worked in the past and will continue to work...
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  • #309,109
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:55pm Oct 18, 2010 6:55pm
Quoting Popee83
Just continue believing that, and where does the demand and supply come from - you seem to forget dealers plunge in spot only during news, Once done, they fire-up their algorithmic programs for accumulation and distribution purposes. Pure Mathematics - no trendlines
so, is there anything you'd like to sell or advertise? if not, post your charts, introduce us to your math and help us to become better traders.

thank you.
  • #309,110
  • Oct 18, 2010 6:59pm Oct 18, 2010 6:59pm
Quoting Barata
Even if your math method works, you are wrong when you say that Technical analysis, and Trend lines are garbage.

Could you explain your method? My math ends in infinite series, multiple integrals and such basic calculus courses...

I follow algorithm math concepts used by Market makers. Since i do not have clearance to level I on EBS - I calculate trends manually. i should code spread-shits formulas once i get the time.

Nice enjoying debates here .. am pissing off guys I know - but for the better. Monday I go back to work and stop pissing folks off - good riddance at last - Oooch to me!
"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." - Albert Einstein
  • #309,111
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:00pm Oct 18, 2010 7:00pm
Quoting Popee83
Just continue believing that, and where does the demand and supply come from - you seem to forget dealers plunge in spot only during news, Once done, they fire-up their algorithmic programs for accumulation and distribution purposes. Pure Mathematics - no trendlines
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  • #309,112
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:01pm Oct 18, 2010 7:01pm
Quoting Popee83
I follow algorithm math concepts used by Market makers. Since i do not have clearance to level I on EBS - I calculate trends manually. i should code spread-shits formulas once i get the time.

Nice enjoying debates here .. am pissing off guys I know - but for the better. Monday I go back to work and stop pissing folks off - good riddance at last - Oooch to me!
if there was at least a single substantial point in your statements other than your leet and nobody else is, you wouldn't be pissing off that many people. hope that helps.
  • #309,113
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:04pm Oct 18, 2010 7:04pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
so, is there anything you'd like to sell or advertise? if not, post your charts, introduce us to your math and help us to become better traders.

thank you.
Nope am not selling anything - I can't sell formulas that are adjustable by the minute - you gotta be kidding.

track my postings today - I lead folks from the 1.3830 lows telling them to take profit at 1.3980. Then wait for a false swoop and re-enter at 1.3940.

As i said, just enjoy it while it lasts.
"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." - Albert Einstein
  • #309,114
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:04pm Oct 18, 2010 7:04pm
just because someone has no idea how to draw trend lines doesn't mean trend lines doesn't work.

anyway moving on. not wasting my time explaining the power of trends.
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  • #309,115
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:06pm Oct 18, 2010 7:06pm
trends are one of the most powerful force in this world.

but hey we don't want simple truths. we always look for flash trading algorithms


anyway. i like Asia session in the last few weeks.
we might have a breakout :nerd:
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  • #309,116
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:08pm Oct 18, 2010 7:08pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
if there was at least a single substantial point in your statements other than your leet and nobody else is, you wouldn't be pissing off that many people. hope that helps.
Nice comment - but hopefully you are now long EU or you will get stopped out pretty soon.

Am just a regular trader type - but in the elite 25% cluster who survive and scoop at least a handful from markets. I do not consider myself among the top-tier 5% invinsible traders. The way they do what they do just beats me - I suppose insider info!
"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." - Albert Einstein
  • #309,117
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:08pm Oct 18, 2010 7:08pm
Quoting Popee83
Nope am not selling anything - I can't sell formulas that are adjustable by the minute - you gotta be kidding.

track my postings today - I lead folks from the 1.3830 lows telling them to take profit at 1.3980. Then wait for a false swoop and re-enter at 1.3940.

As i said, just enjoy it while it lasts.
no, i'm not kidding, i'm just your counterpart in this fruitless discussion.
give a man a fish or teach him how to fish, that's what i believe in. you're doing the first... so i can't take a bow.
  • #309,118
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:10pm Oct 18, 2010 7:10pm
Since you will not share your math I will share mine. I just cannot sotmach the new ME ME crowd that has taken over FF. Good luck trading Guys!!!
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  • #309,119
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:13pm Oct 18, 2010 7:13pm
Quoting DMA Trader
trends are one of the most powerful force in this world.
great - keep on believing that. But once a mathematics imbalance occurs in the mean value of the trend, you are busy second guessing dips, levels by drawing imaginary lines all-over your charts.
"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." - Albert Einstein
  • #309,120
  • Oct 18, 2010 7:15pm Oct 18, 2010 7:15pm
Quoting mgs1f
Since you will not share your math I will share mine. I just cannot sotmach the new ME ME crowd that has taken over FF. Good luck trading Guys!!!

Just in for the week man then I disappear and watch your postings on the side-lines - you can at least stomach that.
"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice." - Albert Einstein
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