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What does strongest chart trend look like?

  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 12:49pm Sep 19, 2010 11:29am | Edited 12:49pm
What shape should the chart be that indicates there is a strongest trend going on? Does near 90 degree slant for a trend indicate that is the strongest?
  • #2
  • Sep 20, 2010 2:58am Sep 20, 2010 2:58am
Quoting efiler
What shape should the chart be that indicates there is a strongest trend going on? Does near 90 degree slant for a trend indicate that is the strongest?
No. There's no such thing like existing trend. All you can see is the trend which was, not which is. Everything can change right now or in the next few minutes. Everybody would be bloody rich if the trading was so easy - spot the trend and enter accordingly.

What you see on your chart is just history, nothing else. We are going up - wrong!. We were going up - right. What are we doing right now? - observe. What are we going to do next? - no one knows. What will happen - everything can happen.

Just observe and react. What to observe - read about technical analysis. How to react? Only you can answer this question.
  • #3
  • Sep 20, 2010 3:18am Sep 20, 2010 3:18am
Quoting efiler
What shape should the chart be......?

the chart should be a square or rectangular shape. if in doubt which type you have just do a 'fit to screen'.

now i know some will say that triangular and circular charts have their own merits, but i say stick with the herd and you wont go wrong.
bull in a china shop
  • #4
  • Sep 20, 2010 3:46am Sep 20, 2010 3:46am
Quoting plasmapants
but i say stick with the herd and you wont go wrong.
Especially when the the herd is in 95% wrong.
  • #5
  • Sep 20, 2010 4:22am Sep 20, 2010 4:22am
The stronger the trend, the steeper the slope. But also, the stronger the trend, the sooner it will burn itself out.

Rob
  • #6
  • Sep 20, 2010 2:15pm Sep 20, 2010 2:15pm
haha gotta love the '90 degrees' shit
if you zoom out of your chart the angle will increase

twats
  • #7
  • Sep 20, 2010 2:36pm Sep 20, 2010 2:36pm
Quoting T.E.Lawrence
No. There's no such thing like existing trend. All you can see is the trend which was, not which is. Everything can change right now or in the next few minutes. Everybody would be bloody rich if the trading was so easy - spot the trend and enter accordingly.

What you see on your chart is just history, nothing else. We are going up - wrong!. We were going up - right. What are we doing right now? - observe. What are we going to do next? - no one knows. What will happen - everything can happen.

Just observe and react. What to...
That's the most ridiculous definition I've seen. If you can't understand something simple as a trend, you might encounter some problems. Unless you're a successful scalper of course
Measure twice, cut once
  • #8
  • Sep 21, 2010 12:28am Sep 21, 2010 12:28am
Quoting aediaz1
That's the most ridiculous definition I've seen. If you can't understand something simple as a trend, you might encounter some problems. Unless you're a successful scalper of course
Yes, I am a day-trader. I trade with momentum when PA breaks through levels or trendlines. And I noticed that usually when you spot a trend - it's over - the next thing that is going to happen is PA changing its direction, not following the direction shown by the trend.
  • #9
  • Sep 21, 2010 1:49am Sep 21, 2010 1:49am
Quoting T.E.Lawrence
And I noticed that usually when you spot a trend - it's over - the next thing that is going to happen is PA changing its direction, not following the direction shown by the trend.
You're right, its a common problem. More often than not, majors trends end/reversals usually gives clues when its about to end.
Measure twice, cut once
  • #10
  • Sep 21, 2010 5:24pm Sep 21, 2010 5:24pm
The best scenario is when a lot of stops were hunt,then it flows (very) quickly.

When the pot is stolen and a (new) trend is continuing (developing), it mostly flows slower and more smoothly.
  • #11
  • Sep 21, 2010 5:56pm Sep 21, 2010 5:56pm
Look at charts for Sept-Oct 2008
  • #12
  • Sep 21, 2010 6:11pm Sep 21, 2010 6:11pm
Quoting Rob Mondave
The stronger the trend, the steeper the slope. But also, the stronger the trend, the sooner it will burn itself out.

Rob
EUR/USD trended for more than 6 years
  • #13
  • Sep 22, 2010 1:29am Sep 22, 2010 1:29am
Quoting Razor_trader
EUR/USD trended for more than 6 years
A weak, meandering trend for six years.
  • #14
  • Sep 22, 2010 12:22pm Sep 22, 2010 12:22pm
Quoting Rob Mondave
A weak, meandering trend for six years.
And what is a strong trend by your definition if we exclude tick/1m chart ?
Measure twice, cut once
  • #15
  • Sep 22, 2010 2:51pm Sep 22, 2010 2:51pm
Quoting aediaz1
And what is a strong trend by your definition if we exclude tick/1m chart ?
Not sure why you sound confrontational, maybe it's just my mood...

Well, by my definition, it's the rate of increase - a bunch of tall candles with little retracement is a strong trend, a bunch of up and down candles in a wide channel is a weak trend.

Just because a trend goes in the same direction for a long time doesn't mean it's strong, it just means it's consistent.
  • #16
  • Sep 22, 2010 3:07pm Sep 22, 2010 3:07pm
Quoting Rob Mondave
Not sure why you sound confrontational, maybe it's just my mood...

Well, by my definition, it's the rate of increase - a bunch of tall candles with little retracement is a strong trend, a bunch of up and down candles in a wide channel is a weak trend.

Just because a trend goes in the same direction for a long time doesn't mean it's strong, it just means it's consistent.
Any discussion about a trends strength is really not much of importance even though I responded to your quote. What matters is how you capitalize on it before it finally comes to an end. The eurusd trend that lasted many years was great. I made great returns on it even though my system design was only to buy some crappy breakout-levels.
Measure twice, cut once
  • #17
  • Sep 22, 2010 8:04pm Sep 22, 2010 8:04pm
Quoting Rob Mondave
A weak, meandering trend for six years.
Really, weak.... hmm .8500 to over 1.60 gee thats really weak and meandering depends on your scope. Obviously very little knowledge there
  • #18
  • Sep 22, 2010 9:12pm Sep 22, 2010 9:12pm
Quoting efiler
What shape should the chart be that indicates there is a strongest trend going on? Does near 90 degree slant for a trend indicate that is the strongest?
hey efiler...... 'strongest' and 'slant' are somewhat relative terms..... we would need to know just what was being measured and your definition of strongest.....

and i should know better than to venture into another angles on a chart thread but here are some thoughts.....

you can, with a little code, measure the average time a moving average maintains a certain angle.... doing so you might find the strongest would be somewhere between 35 and 45 degrees......

btw, seem to remember some hayseed uploading several items reguarding angles in charts.....h

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to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #19
  • Sep 25, 2010 4:36pm Sep 25, 2010 4:36pm
You guys who get good returns in forex were exactly the cure for 120 bankrupt banks in US.
  • #20
  • Last Post: Sep 28, 2010 1:54pm Sep 28, 2010 1:54pm
hey efiler.... got your mail but not sure which charts you wanted posted..... i did not have any to post....

the youtube videos above are all i had.... sorry.....

here are some charts that might help from another thread.....

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...8&postcount=16

......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
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