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  • #301
  • Sep 7, 2010 8:48am Sep 7, 2010 8:48am
Quoting jiva34
Sorry, bit confusing.
Open 1 tp 20, stop loss 30.
If martingale activated, 40 pip increments for succeeding orders.
Just an experiment.

yes, definitely on/off.
Also a way to set the progression?
1,2,4,9,18.... etc could be changed to anything..
1,2,3,4 whatever...

I will need some time to go over individual trades too see more of the dynamics and how long it takes to get out of the hedge, how many orders it can go, at what increments etc. I am looking for the really bad cases but have not found them yet, nothing over 6 orders yet. I will keep...
It will take time to code them....wait...
  • #302
  • Sep 7, 2010 8:35pm Sep 7, 2010 8:35pm
Quoting Taiyakixz
It will take time to code them....wait...
  • #303
  • Edited Sep 8, 2010 3:31am Sep 7, 2010 9:31pm | Edited Sep 8, 2010 3:31am
10 pip increments, 4,9,18,37,74
1st order 4
2nd order 7
3rd order 1
4th order 0
5th order 1

15 pip increments, need to figure out the progression...
1st order 3
2nd order 6
3rd order 3
4th order 0
5th order 1


Would like to see if there's a way to filter the 5 order and higher out.

Alpari EU 15m 12 months prior
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  • #304
  • Sep 7, 2010 9:35pm Sep 7, 2010 9:35pm
I guess if I want a bumpy ride I should test for GU. Maybe we will find some nightmares there...
  • #305
  • Sep 11, 2010 12:18am Sep 11, 2010 12:18am
I talked with jiva about hedge martingale system.
It's very difficult to add the system to the ea, because taking order is very complex. It has pending order, expire, selecting 2nd order, trailing stop, flexible sizing....and so on.
It will take very long time to make it. So at the moment we think about basic strategy.
I don't give up making hedge martingale system, but it's better to think about good entries without waiting it.
  • #306
  • Sep 13, 2010 3:16am Sep 13, 2010 3:16am
Nice trading system+strategy; thanks to Jiva34 and Taiyakixz. Attached results from 08/18.

By the way, the negative trade comes from another EA (MD). For accurate analysis consider the trades with 0.1 and 0.2 lots.

Best Regards,
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  • #307
  • Sep 14, 2010 10:04am Sep 14, 2010 10:04am
Great system. 100 GBP 0.10 lot on a 5M EUR/USD chart. SL 25 pips.
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  • #308
  • Sep 14, 2010 10:13am Sep 14, 2010 10:13am
A little tweak with the TP setting and bingo much better. Is there anyway to get the EA to not trade if the price is above the 80 or below the 20 of the DSS or if the price is say above 80 it will only take a short when we start to have red dots?
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  • #309
  • Sep 14, 2010 11:43am Sep 14, 2010 11:43am
Quoting Yamster
A little tweak with the TP setting and bingo much better. Is there anyway to get the EA to not trade if the price is above the 80 or below the 20 of the DSS or if the price is say above 80 it will only take a short when we start to have red dots?
Nice..
could you zip the set file you used and post it?
What broker? what time frame? what volume?
I would like to test drive.
thanks.

I haven't looked very closely at the significance of 20/80 for dss, just direction.
Taiyakixz is pretty knowledgeable for coding, if 20/80 could help filter bad trades he could code it.
I'll take a look at that.
Have you noticed relevance for that?

stop loss 25 is nice isn't it....
  • #310
  • Sep 14, 2010 12:33pm Sep 14, 2010 12:33pm
Quoting jiva34
Nice..
could you zip the set file you used and post it?
What broker? what time frame? what volume?
I would like to test drive.
thanks.

I haven't looked very closely at the significance of 20/80 for dss, just direction.
Taiyakixz is pretty knowledgeable for coding, if 20/80 could help filter bad trades he could code it.
I'll take a look at that.
Have you noticed relevance for that?

stop loss 25 is nice isn't it....
Yeah let me find a free zip program. I am using Alpari UK, The time frame is 5M but i am using 3 other MA's on different time frames to find the trend. When you say volume i am guessing you mean the modelling quality which is 90%.

The setting i use with the DSS are 33,25 i have seen it happen a lot using this EA. if the EA only took sell signals at 80 with red dots and at 20 buy signals with green dots that would filter out some trades and also might make the EA take some trades?

Really nice EA
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  • #311
  • Sep 14, 2010 6:05pm Sep 14, 2010 6:05pm
Quoting Yamster
Yeah let me find a free zip program. I am using Alpari UK, The time frame is 5M but i am using 3 other MA's on different time frames to find the trend. When you say volume i am guessing you mean the modelling quality which is 90%.

The setting i use with the DSS are 33,25 i have seen it happen a lot using this EA. if the EA only took sell signals at 80 with red dots and at 20 buy signals with green dots that would filter out some trades and also might make the EA take some trades?

Really nice EA
Thank you for backtest.
I modified the EA. It buys only when DSS<=20 and sells only when DSS>=80. Please check it.
v11.0 is added Use_DSS(selection of using DSS). Then I added Use_DSS_Limit to v11.0_DSSlimit.
At the moment it is not official release. If it is good, it will be v12.0.
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  • #312
  • Edited 10:50pm Sep 14, 2010 10:31pm | Edited 10:50pm
Quoting Yamster
Yeah let me find a free zip program. I am using Alpari UK, The time frame is 5M but i am using 3 other MA's on different time frames to find the trend. When you say volume i am guessing you mean the modelling quality which is 90%.

The setting i use with the DSS are 33,25 i have seen it happen a lot using this EA. if the EA only took sell signals at 80 with red dots and at 20 buy signals with green dots that would filter out some trades and also might make the EA take some trades?

Really nice EA
Great free zip
http://www.jzip.com/


thanks for the heads up on dss tweaks.
have experimented with 21, 34 and am currently using 5,8...
  • #313
  • Sep 14, 2010 11:51pm Sep 14, 2010 11:51pm
Quoting sforma
Nice trading system+strategy; thanks to Jiva34 and Taiyakixz. Attached results from 08/18.

By the way, the negative trade comes from another EA (MD). For accurate analysis consider the trades with 0.1 and 0.2 lots.

Best Regards,
Hi sfoma,

really interesting results within couple days, could you zip and post settings you are using for those currency pairs (best would be zipped set files for each pair) - of course if you don't mind it. Thank you.
  • #314
  • Sep 15, 2010 3:07am Sep 15, 2010 3:07am
Quoting Yamster
Yeah let me find a free zip program. I am using Alpari UK, The time frame is 5M but i am using 3 other MA's on different time frames to find the trend. When you say volume i am guessing you mean the modelling quality which is 90%.

The setting i use with the DSS are 33,25 i have seen it happen a lot using this EA. if the EA only took sell signals at 80 with red dots and at 20 buy signals with green dots that would filter out some trades and also might make the EA take some trades?

Really nice EA
volume as in v10?
  • #315
  • Sep 15, 2010 4:26am Sep 15, 2010 4:26am
Quoting kapybara
Hi sfoma,

really interesting results within couple days, could you zip and post settings you are using for those currency pairs (best would be zipped set files for each pair) - of course if you don't mind it. Thank you.
Account at Alpari UK
Version: 8.1 (default settings except Gmt Offset=2) + zip file for preset pairs


Best Regards
  • #316
  • Sep 16, 2010 8:47am Sep 16, 2010 8:47am
Quoting sforma
Account at Alpari UK
Version: 8.1 (default settings except Gmt Offset=2) + zip file for preset pairs


Best Regards

Sorry for bothering sforma, I didn't get you. You didn't zipped it (maybe you forget attach zip file). Maybe more helpfull would be screenshot from your Alpari, there I can exactly see the details settings for EA and DSS indicator used (as example see mine).

Thanks.
(are you using the same settings for all your currency pairs, or are they different ?)
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  • #317
  • Sep 17, 2010 6:32am Sep 17, 2010 6:32am
subscribed!

--> just attached indis and EA to tpl charts and a buy stop order was triggered on eurjpy...i checked the trade and saw that sl is 140 pips and tp 10?!

does this work? : p
Hero calls followed by margin calls...
  • #318
  • Sep 17, 2010 11:55am Sep 17, 2010 11:55am
Quoting PhAnTi'
subscribed!

--> just attached indis and EA to tpl charts and a buy stop order was triggered on eurjpy...i checked the trade and saw that sl is 140 pips and tp 10?!

does this work? : p
Do not use this EA with the default setting. It must be changed.
You can find the setting file at 1st post or there are many posts about settings.
Some of them are s/l=140, but you can find smaller s/l settings.
Please pick up the setting which you like.
  • #319
  • Edited 1:38pm Sep 18, 2010 11:39am | Edited 1:38pm
Dear Taiyakixz,
In researching further I am finding something. Please do not jump out a window when I discuss what I am looking at. We want to make money so we are looking at whatever we find that might give us the winning edge.
I do not know if it is possible to incorporate both ideas into the one adviser. But there are 2 distinct strategies which share many of the same features.
1. The stop entry strategy for catching trends
and
2. The limit entry strategy for dealing with consolidations.

The stop entry strategy is more less pretty well developed already up to and including v10and v11.

Here is the idea behind the limit strategy:
Identify trend on higher time frame with moving average
Trade on lower time frame using 2 moving averages and price action.
The channel would be used only to act as trailing stop but not for entries.
If somehow, both strategies could be incorporated into the one ea it could be a powerhouse. No doubt such an endeavor would be like trying to climb Mt. Everest for Tayiakixz.
If it is possible that one set of conditions is there then the limit entry strategy is activated and when the other set of conditions is present the stop entry strategy is activated. If this can be done in one adviser?
Perhaps if the 1st thing the adviser looks for is either 1 of 2 things, did a candle close below or above the channel, if not then did a candle close above or below the 21sma. And go from there for conditions?

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If not we might just want to leave the original as it is. And code a separate entity. The more I analyze these trades the more I think this sell limit strategy may be just fine as a stand alone ea.
However if they could be in one ea, all the bases would be covered, trending markets and flat markets.

Let me elaborate further with charts.
The first chart is the day chart with vertical line markers to mark downtrends and up trends 200sma
The other charts show typical trades using limit entries in the direction of the main trend on the day chart.
It is possible that this could work fairly well on a lower time frame combination. Say finding the trend on the 30 minute and trading the 15m.

By only trading during certain market hours it is possible to filter out a lot of bad entries.
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  • #320
  • Sep 18, 2010 2:57pm Sep 18, 2010 2:57pm
jiva,

I found many loss trades....

??????

blue dot line -> pending point, red dot line -> stop loss
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