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  • First Post: Edited Nov 16, 2010 12:02pm Aug 11, 2010 3:35am | Edited Nov 16, 2010 12:02pm
  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts


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If a strategy is good a robot should be able to trade it successfully,

Taking stress and impulsive and costly decisions out of the equation.

We, here at Jiva Dragon, are thankful for automated systems of trading.

Please do not use real money. This ea is still under development. Your feedback in testing is much appreciated.

JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA testv14.2 mq4
For the series presently under development we use the 15 min time frame and only a few of the many functions available.


The basic structure:
For long entry:
a candle closes below the channel high, the next candle closes above
the channel hi, ea will place an order at the close of the 2nd
candle. The order can be instant or pending.

All the settings are adjustable.
1. how many pips away the pending order is to be placed.
2. how long the pending order will be valid (in terms of candles).
3. what the channel value is.

Robby Bressert dss indicator (a graphic variation of a regular stochastic) is used to confirm a long or short entry, a variety of moving averages can be used as desired even on multi-time frames to ensure trades are only taken in the direction of a main trend, macd with a multi time frame option has been added to v14.1.

Two orders are opened on a given signal.
The trade is managed in this way.

To limit losses:
A stop loss can be set for both positions to limit losses should the entry be bad.

To capture gains:

Trailing stop losses can be set for both positions.
Limits can be set for both positions.

If the 1st position reaches the profit target, the ea places a stop at break even for the 2nd position. If the 2nd position fails to reach a profit target that may have been set for it and falls back, it stops out at break even for 0 gain/0 loss.

If the 2nd position reaches it's profit target, then there is gain for both positions.

If the profit target for the 2nd position is very great, say for example 300 pips because we want to try to catch a big move, then the 2nd position may close if it reaches 300 pips or it may close if a candle closes outside the channel in the opposite direction. It may also close if a trailing stop has been set and it retraces back to be stopped out.

Lot's going on. Busy little ea...

The Robby DSS Bressert is a stochastic displayed with dots rather than as lines. I like it because it shows %D and %K crosses nicely as dot color changes. Easy to see as the dots are correlated with candle closings.

Many, many thanks many times over to Taiyakixz who is so very talented and is putting so much time and thought into building the different versions of this robot.

Since the first page is the only page in the thread that can be edited indefinitely, We will post the updated setting for the ea as well as post any updated versions of the ea itself or any links with update info on this page. So please check back regularly.

It can be helpful for those wishing to use this expert adviser that they use a remote desktop vps service. The remote desktop remains up and running 24/7 even when the trader's personal computer is turned off.

You will need to put the Robby Bressert dss indicator and the T3MA indicator in the mt4 indicator folder for the ea to load properly.

The templates included in the zip files for v14.2 use a custom macd indicator that you will need to download for the templates in order to follow along visually however this macd indi does not affect the functioning of the ea. It is just a visual preference.

If you are new to expert advisers, backtesting, optimizing, etc... please visit Geoff65's thread. He has done an excellent job of presenting so much useful information for those who may just be starting. By familiarizing oneself with some of the basic information he presents there it will be easier to keep the dialog on this thread focused on the ongoing development of this ea without the necessity of explaining some of the very basic steps in getting started with ea's in general and being asked the same basic questions over and over again. So please refer to http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=231650. Thank you Geoff...

If you cannot find the answers there please feel free to send me a private message.

Good luck.

Note about the differences in results that occur due to different brokers:
the forex market is over the counter so there is no central clearing for trades. As a result there are slight differences, and sometimes not so slight differences (as in fast moving markets, news releases etc.) in prices. Therefore it necessary for each trader to see what minor changes need to be made in the settings to achieve optimal results. Sometimes changing a channel setting by a few points can make all the difference in the world. It is very individual. The settings in this thread are tuned to FXDD, malta. Fixed spreads. We will be adjusting settings for Alpari, UK over the next few days but we cannot do this for all the brokers. Best way for individual traders to adjust settings for their specific broker is to use the optimizing function in the tester.


Backtesting on the weekends using a broker with variable spreads is useless. Because the spreads are variable the testing must be done when the market is open.

PLEASE NOTE:

1. We have abandoned the original 4hour series. 4hour candles form differently for different brokers' gmt which makes it difficult to work together to compare trades and ideas. We are now trading the 15 min charts.
2. Check back here regularly since we will post the links that have the most recently updated settings.
3. The settings and .ex4 file for v11 which has been phased out are archived here:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=845

As of 10/30/10 we are also now including a "50/50 statistical edge test". We leave all settings the same except for the stop loss and take profits. They are set equal to each other. If there is a better than 50% win rate, preferably 65% or better, rare but very desirable, then we know we are optimizing and not simply fitting a curve by adjusting settings.
Many thanks to jm2110 for his in-depth critiques which have lead to us adopting this very valuable tool.
Traders, please keep posting your comments, insights, criticisms, questions, etc.. Thank you in advance....

3. The offset option will need to be set according to each individual broker. The tests were run using FXDD Malta so the setting in the set file is +3, but different brokers have different gmt offsets. For instance Alpari UK the setting would be +2. And this may change with daylight savings.

At present we are making 2 small modifications:
1. close at true break even (no loss due to spread fee)
2. more sensitive to moving average slope
experimental moving average indicator created by Taiyakixz
posted here:http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=854

Please feel free to test and experiment.

To access 99% modeling quality follow the instructions on this website: http://eareview.net/tick-data

Update: 11/14/10
FXDD and Alpari tested the same...
We will be testing set files posted here:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost.php?p=4176762&postcount=857




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File Type: mq4 Robby DSS Bressert Colored with alert v1.1.mq4   4 KB | 2,897 downloads | Uploaded Aug 24, 2010 5:07am
File Type: mq4 MA_In_Color[1].mq4   4 KB | 1,353 downloads | Uploaded Oct 31, 2010 7:08pm
File Type: mq4 MACD with crossingblack.mq4   3 KB | 1,298 downloads | Uploaded Nov 7, 2010 8:55am
File Type: ex4 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv14.2.ex4   42 KB | 1,389 downloads | Uploaded Nov 13, 2010 3:31am
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
Note about backtesting:

Back testing in the mt4 tester is fraught with difficulties. The data may or may not be correct. Refreshing a chart may or may not help. But it is all we have at present to try to test a strategy historically. It is very helpful to be aware of the shortcomings of the mt4 tester.

For examples of these discrepancies and how they can and do affect results.
Please see post:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=282
and
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=292
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
As of now 8/11/10 we have 7 optimized settings for the Jiva Dragon set up on 7 different pairs.
The goal for this series is at least 10 settings all running simultaneously 24/7.
Each setting has shown to trade 2 to 3 times per month and the average for 2 positions per trade about 40 pips total.
10 settings x 2 trades x 40 pips = 800 pips per month. If my math is right.
For the last 5 days there have been 5 trades all winning.
Respectively in order these are the backtester graphs at 90% for 12 months prior:


EURUSD
USDJPY
AUDUSD
EURJPY
CHFJPY
USDCAD
EURCHF

The presets are posted on the 1st page.
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  •  camvcvoo
  • | Joined Nov 2006 | Status: Member | 678 Posts
Awesome work, Jiva.

福 子 Victor V
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
Quoting camvcvoo
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Awesome work, Jiva.

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Thanks for the kudos..
I nearly drove Taiyakixz to jump off a bridge...
The credit goes to him just for being able to deal with me..
Not to even mention his very meticulous coding.
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
These settings trade on an average a few times/month each. So this not the kind of trading that will have someone sitting on the edge of their chair glued to a monitor with baited breath for hours on end!!
But add it up at the end of the month and it is very nice.
Set it and forget it.
 
 
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  • Aug 11, 2010 6:19am Aug 11, 2010 6:19am
  •  Peretola
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 77 Posts
Thanks a lot for sharing this precious gem. Does the EA work in any TF or only H4?

Cheers
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
Quoting Peretola
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Thanks a lot for sharing this precious gem. Does the EA work in any TF or only H4?

Cheers
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The dragon is very versatile. These particular settings are optimized for h4. That does not rule out other settings for other time frames.
USDJPY is set for 30m time frame.

I am at present focused on the goal of at least 10 settings for this series.
I have found a 2ema hi lo channel to be very helpful on the 4hr for finding 2 candle breakouts.



The time frame can be set to anything and the channel can be set to anything, 200ema! It may be possible to capture big moves off a close outside of the 200 ema. 400 or even 500 pips or more, why not. If the 2nd position is not limited to 30 or 40 pips but given room to run and say a limit of 1000, with a trailing stop of 200...

There are all kinds of thing that can be done with this ea. Let your creative energies flow. It is exacting work to find the settings. But they are there. And this ea has fabulous features.
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
ea opened 4 pending orders which if filled would be 2 positions each.
I don't have enough margin in this micro account to carry all those trades.
I had to close 1 pending.
When EURCHF was filled close it early for a small profit.
So I could carry the EURUSD positions.
and wait for the USDCAD pending to fill.
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
The trades so far +96 pips total for this morning
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  •  billbss
  • Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 4,301 Posts
It looks like it won't work, as is. with 5 digit brokers.
Will it if the pip values, in the parameters, are increased x10?
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
Quoting billbss
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It looks like it won't work, as is. with 5 digit brokers.
Will it if the pip values, in the parameters, are increased x10?
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The ea is coded in such a way as to normalize price quotes for 4 or 5 pip brokers. Try it in a demo for 5 pips. My broker is FXDD and they are changing over from 4 pips to 5 pips. Their demos are all 5 pips now and no problem with running the ea in those 5 pip demos. Their live accounts switch over in a couple of days. I don't anticipate this to be a problem.
The account I am using for testing this forward is a micro account. It is 4 pips live now but will change over in a few days to 5 pips.
 
 
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  • Aug 11, 2010 11:25am Aug 11, 2010 11:25am
  •  billbss
  • Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 4,301 Posts
Quoting jiva34
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The ea is coded in such a way as to normalize price quotes for 4 or 5 pip brokers. Try it in a demo for 5 pips. My broker is FXDD and they are changing over from 4 pips to 5 pips. Their demos are all 5 pips now and no problem with running the ea in those 5 pip demos. Their live accounts switch over in a couple of days. I don't anticipate this to be a problem.
The account I am using for testing this forward is a micro account. It is 4 pips live now but will change over in a few days to 5 pips.
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Yes, I found that out since posting.
Thank you for the reply

This looks good. You put a tremendous amount of work into it.
 
 
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  •  yesbee1
  • | Joined Dec 2009 | Status: Member | 107 Posts
Hi Jiva and Taiyakixz
Thanks a lot for all the work. Your persistence is paying off. Thank you.
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts
Quoting billbss
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Yes, I found that out since posting.
Thank you for the reply

This looks good. You put a tremendous amount of work into it.
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  •  jiva34
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Quoting yesbee1
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Hi Jiva and Taiyakixz
Thanks a lot for all the work. Your persistence is paying off. Thank you.
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You're welcome. Let's make some $$$$
 
 
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  •  jiva34
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Just visiting | 12,891 Posts

Just a reminder. These are very slow settings.

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On a very active day in the market they may all try to place pending orders together.

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At other times when the market is slow there will be nothing. Maybe for several days in a row.
These settings are all part of the same series.
I know this ea can do other things. We will be seeing how to utilize.
v8.0 is under testing. It will be able to place instant orders as well as pending orders.

 
 
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  •  Invisible
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Very thorough work. I look forward to testing.
 
 
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  •  jiva34
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Very thorough work. I look forward to testing.
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Go for it.
 
 
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  •  jiva34
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AUDUSD just triggered a sell stop.
The settings call for a pending order to be place 55 pips away and the pair has three 4hour candles to reach the pending order.
See what I mean about slow!!!
If the pending order is filled it will place 2 positions 1st limit 15 and 2nd limit 50.

Okay, took a little nap.
Woke up and there it was.
The pending was filled and the trade was good.
Only thing is why only 1 position was opened. Should have opened 2. This happened the other day with EURCHF also. If it is my quirky broker FXDD Malta or the ea somehow needs something. Taikixz says he can't find anything in the code that would cause this. I have no error messages in the journal. It just appears the ea did not even try to open the 2nd position.
It would not have reached the limit anyway for this trade. But sometimes it might. The 2nd limit is 50 pips...
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