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  • #286,881
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:02pm Aug 27, 2010 3:02pm
Quoting harigp
There was a statment by Japan Finance Minister that he is going to deal with JPY appreciation in FX

From 10 Aug to today anyone can write what the Bernad has to say

Bring confidence in the consumer market . creat Job confidence will follow
he threw his colt. he's out of bullets. either 2783 next or 2673.. hopefully for my entry 3783 ish.. then down
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  • #286,882
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:08pm Aug 27, 2010 3:08pm
Quoting gatorinla
he threw his colt. he's out of bullets. either 2783 next or 2673.. hopefully for my entry 3783 ish.. then down
Gator, this is an excellent conclusion of the day !

Thanks for all the participants of this forum, to bring their analysis and advices.

Hoping next week, eu will be more easy to trade..

Have a good WE
  • #286,883
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:12pm Aug 27, 2010 3:12pm
I trade size on cme es and on limit can get in and out without a spread

100 lot is nothing in cme es futures

too bad this is not true on eur fx futures at cme

you cannot trade size volumes average 250 to 350,000 contracts

maybe will change if the regulators here in the usa reduce leverage to 10% on forex market
  • #286,884
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:24pm Aug 27, 2010 3:24pm
Quoting fontu
May be for very short term & not last long. Different views for medium term up still active. gbp may strenthen against jpy while jpy should strengthen against usd & so medium term gbp to stregthen against usd continue .just checking inter relations .
fontu
I'm with You Fontu, IN GU we are in DWtrend (a Trend of negotiation or a trend of probability), i see 1,5230 zona as a big Support. This zone is suported by a current trend (Medium trend) as a Uptrend. and i believe in a rebound in this zone. We must wait to see
"Por mais fundo que seja o buraco, pelo menos esse não tem terra em cima"
  • #286,885
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:28pm Aug 27, 2010 3:28pm
Quoting highlander2
Certainly can relate to some of the comments here, a real pig of a week, especially for longer time frame traders, some horrible priceaction. i took my share of the pain. If you finished the week in the green, have a drink on me, weldone...
I hear that....cleaned out half my account...painful!! ;(
Life's a bitch....so be a dog and cover it!
  • #286,886
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:31pm Aug 27, 2010 3:31pm
Quoting qiktrader850
I trade size on cme es and on limit can get in and out without a spread

100 lot is nothing in cme es futures

too bad this is not true on eur fx futures at cme

you cannot trade size volumes average 250 to 350,000 contracts

maybe will change if the regulators here in the usa reduce leverage to 10% on forex market

you must be trading on broco demo or something

there is ALWAYS bid and an ask ... so of course there is a spread. I day trade es , margin requirements 3600 per contract .

I am not sure what esle you were saying in your post there.

In addition to the bid / spread ask you pay comission . Only 4.75 per contract , but comission non the less.
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  • #286,887
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:33pm Aug 27, 2010 3:33pm
Quoting gatorinla
with tsl just shorted usd/chf 3113 and eg earlier at 8223
stopped out -9 p.. will set another s at 3166 with a wider sl
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #286,888
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:36pm Aug 27, 2010 3:36pm
All my friends and partners in this big trip, have a good weekend and see you in next week, with excelent trades, i hope!!!

Best Regards to all,

TripeiroFX
"Por mais fundo que seja o buraco, pelo menos esse não tem terra em cima"
  • #286,889
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:36pm Aug 27, 2010 3:36pm
Quoting malcolmb14
you must be trading on broco demo or something

there is ALWAYS bid and an ask ... so of course there is a spread. I day trade es , margin requirements 3600 per contract .

I am not sure what esle you were saying in your post there.

In addition to the bid / spread ask you pay comission . Only 4.75 per contract , but comission non the less.
hmmm, ThinkOrSwim requirement for /es is $5600.....
When The Ducks Start Quackin..
  • #286,890
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:41pm Aug 27, 2010 3:41pm
Quoting dogbreath
I hear that....cleaned out half my account...painful!! ;(


im in the loser club this week as well....down 8% today fucking hurt....wiped out all my gains for august
  • #286,891
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:41pm Aug 27, 2010 3:41pm
Quoting Dillinger563
I think futures are better to trade than fx.You have more control of your trades on futures.Cant get a limit in on fx..On /es I have a scalping strategy where I can get an average of 1-2pts per trade.When I started trading fx, I realized that kind of strategy wasn't possible.When you have a mkt order filled you start off 3 pips down...
Why are you paying a 3-pip spread on spot E/U? Almost all brokers I have seen have typical <= 2 pip spreads on E/U and many have <=1 pip - Oanda has 0.9 pip during the most liquid hours of the day.

Can't get a limit order filled? Sounds like you need a new broker.

I get limit orders filled with no slippage almost always. In fact, I see more slippage in futures than in spot when I am scalping.

Price action on the 1M and under tf's is different in spot vs. futures. Both are tradeable. If you like scalping around the clock, like I do, then spot is a better home. I'll miss it if they clamp down on the leverage allowed...
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  • #286,892
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:44pm Aug 27, 2010 3:44pm
Quoting The Fool
Why are you paying a 3-pip spread on spot E/U? Almost all brokers I have seen have typical <= 2 pip spreads on E/U and many have <=1 pip - Oanda has 0.9 pip during the most liquid hours of the day.

Can't get a limit order filled? Sounds like you need a new broker.

I get limit orders filled with no slippage almost always. In fact, I see more slippage in futures than in spot when I am scalping.

Price action on the 1M and under tf's is different in spot vs. futures. Both are tradeable. If you like scalping around the clock, like I do, then spot...

Well, now I know you guys have it better than me..I only wish I could get a limit order filled
When The Ducks Start Quackin..
  • #286,893
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:50pm Aug 27, 2010 3:50pm
Quoting Dillinger563
hmmm, ThinkOrSwim requirement for /es is $5600.....
Infinity futures in the us gave me an unlimited day trade capacity. started with a 20 k account and i could trade 80 contrcats .. insane
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  • #286,894
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:55pm Aug 27, 2010 3:55pm
Sorry to heard that ... Sh'@$t happens to all traders. Relax the weekend and come back next week with recharged energies.

Best of luck next week.

sisse

Quoting mfoste1
im in the loser club this week as well....down 8% today fucking hurt....wiped out all my gains for august
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #286,895
  • Aug 27, 2010 3:58pm Aug 27, 2010 3:58pm
wow margin requirement to daytrade es is only $500 and using limit orders with the volume you can get filled depends on your time stamp carried out to .00010 of a second

of course if you wait until price is right there you have to give up that 1 tick spread

fortunately my trading platform has a join bid or join ask button



as you have the vsa thread I am surprised to hear you say you did not think forex markets could be manipilated

the smart money is always there and in the es there is much volume on both sided [bid/ask]

this past week both es market and 6e [eur fx] has been a dream for a scalpher like me in the futures market. wish I could trade more volume in eur fx


have a great weekend
  • #286,896
  • Aug 27, 2010 4:00pm Aug 27, 2010 4:00pm
As you can see when who ever started to speak, the EU was sucked up and also EU was holding at 1.2710 and there about and sky rockted. Look at he HI chart

I was using M5 chart to buy the dip because his building confidence meaure is short lived for intra day trade
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  • #286,897
  • Aug 27, 2010 4:00pm Aug 27, 2010 4:00pm
Quoting qiktrader850
wow margin requirement to daytrade es is only $500 and using limit orders with the volume you can get filled depends on your time stamp carried out to .00010 of a second

of course if you wait until price is right there you have to give up that 1 tick spread

fortunately my trading platform has a join bid or join ask button



as you have the vsa thread I am surprised to hear you say you did not think forex markets could be manipilated

the smart money is always there and in the es there is much volume on both sided [bid/ask]

this past week both...

What broker are you talking about? I'm doing some investigating
When The Ducks Start Quackin..
  • #286,898
  • Edited 4:12pm Aug 27, 2010 4:01pm | Edited 4:12pm
day margins for most of the futures brokers are <$1,000 - you're just limited as to how large you can trade - like 50 contracts.

Day margin at global is $500 for both the e-mini S&P (ES) and the E7 (mini euro).

You don't have to be rich to trade futures. But it's a steep transition if you're a 1$/pip guy. Some of the futures contracts are easier to trade than currencies, too....just ask ol' chocfinger...
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  • #286,899
  • Aug 27, 2010 4:09pm Aug 27, 2010 4:09pm
Quoting The Fool
day margins for most of the futures brokers are <$1,000 - you're just limited as to how large you can trade - like 50 contracts.

Day marging at global id $500 for both the e-mini S&P (ES) and the E7 (mini euro).

You don't have to be rich to trade futures. But it's a steep transition if you're a 1$/pip guy. Some of the futures contracts are easier to trade than currencies, too....just ask ol' chocfinger...

I realize now how steep $5600 really is.S&P Mid Cap is $7500 per contract with TOS!
When The Ducks Start Quackin..
  • #286,900
  • Aug 27, 2010 4:12pm Aug 27, 2010 4:12pm
Quoting dogbreath
I hear that....cleaned out half my account...painful!! ;(
Thats pretty rough stuff, you should reduce your risk per trade and have a rule that says at most you are willing to lose is say 8% in a week, and if that happens stop for a week, once the ball starts rolling it can snowball very fast, even the DOW has an emergency stop at 1000 points.

This was the first week of my new account with larger lot sizes, took me to the absolute limit of what i can take. In hindsight i should not have traded the last few days before GDP, clearly there was a lot of anticapation for the figures, having said hat it seemed to be MR B, who moved the market basically every whichway!

one 3:1 winning trade will have me back at BE again, not a disaster by any means....
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