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  • #141
  • Aug 17, 2010 5:06am Aug 17, 2010 5:06am
Quoting antoniomago
EURUSD .

The problem is TP=SL=price (see image attached) because they must be placed separately in my broker (ODL MT4). Stops and limits cannot be attached to a market order.
Our coding specialist has done it again. The miracle man.
v8.1 should fix the order send error for traders with brokers who do not allow stop and limits to be sent with an order.
Which is dumb, really dumb, if you ask me.... I do not understand the reason or logic behind that except that it makes trading a million time more difficult than it already is.
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File Type: mq4 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1.mq4   31 KB | 325 downloads
  • #142
  • Edited 6:04am Aug 17, 2010 5:33am | Edited 6:04am
In the ongoing effort to reduce the stop losses we are getting good results. the charts are not as pretty as charts with huge stops losses, but the settings are a lot safer. To use a stop loss as large at 140 is like playing Russian roulette, at any time the big loss can come and wipe away the gains from several months, maybe even a whole year.

In these new settings the idea is to capture large moves. While waiting in the market the ea will be taking what look like good entries. But some of them may not be good. If the stop loss is very small by comparison to the size of the sought after gain then the loss can be absorbed until the big move is captured. Stop loss here is 30 pips.

Using the 1 hour chart for EURUSD these are the results of some of the first efforts.

The first chart is taken over previous 24 months.
The second chart is taken over previous 96 months.

We need to take into consideration the broker fees which will of course eat into the overall gain.
For the 2 year period there were 210 trades x $10 per lot = $2100.
Total profit after losses = $18548 - $2100 = $16448 / 2 yrs = $8224/yr.
So the actual increase per year is 82.24% for the previous 24 months.

By the same calculations the return over the last 96 months was 36.18%. (2003 and 2006 were bad years).

Over the long term those figures are hard to beat. The strategy holds up over time.
In this sense the ea becomes a good investment.

Strategy Tester Report
JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.0
FXDD-MT4 Live Server 5 (Build 226)

SymbolEURUSD (Euro vs. United States Dollar) Period1 Hour (H1) 2008.08.01 00:00 - 2010.07.30 22:00 (2008.08.01 - 2010.08.01) ModelEvery tick (the most precise method based on all available least timeframes) ParametersiMagicNumber=8435701; GMTOffset=3; TradeStartHour=0; TradeEndHour=24; Lots=1; TakeProfit1=50; TrailingStop1=200; TakeProfit2=1000; TrailingStop2=200; StopLoss=30; PendingPips=25; ExpireCandles=1; DelayOrder2=0; CheckSlope=false; DSS_name="Robby DSS Bressert Colored with alert v1.1"; DSS_EMA=8; DSS_stoch=13; Use_T3MA=false; T3MA_name="T3MA"; T3MA_Periods=0; T3MA_VolumeFactor=0.7; Channel_EMAPeriod=55; Channel_EMAShift=0; ShowComment=true; EXP_MA_1="-------- MA settings --------"; EXP_MA_2="-- Method 0:SMA, 1:EMA, 2:SMMA, 3:LWMA"; EXP_MA_3="-- Timeframe 0:current or minutes"; Use_MA1=true; MA1_Timeframe=0; MA1_Period=38; MA1_Method=0; MA1_Shift=0; 1 moving average used...

Bars in test12019Ticks modelled17735927Modelling quality90.00% Mismatched charts errors0




Initial deposit10000.00



Total net profit18548.11Gross profit57298.26Gross loss-38750.15 Profit factor1.48Expected payoff88.32

Absolute drawdown380.00Maximal drawdown7940.00 (34.11%)Relative drawdown34.11% (7940.00)
Total trades210Short positions (won %)120 (23.33%)Long positions (won %)90 (33.33%)
Profit trades (% of total)58 (27.62%)Loss trades (% of total)152 (72.38%) Largestprofit trade9990.00loss trade-313.00 Averageprofit trade987.90loss trade-254.94 Maximumconsecutive wins (profit in money)6 (5038.56)consecutive losses (loss in money)15 (-4350.00) Maximalconsecutive profit (count of wins)10480.00 (2)consecutive loss (count of losses)-4350.00 (15) Averageconsecutive wins2consecutive losses4
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  • #143
  • Aug 17, 2010 10:00am Aug 17, 2010 10:00am
Thanks. All trades OK.
Yes, you are a miracle man.

Quoting Taiyakixz
I sent fixed version 8.1 to jiva. It will be uploaded soon.
No other change from 8.0.
So, for members who has no problem with taking order, update is not needed.
  • #144
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:41am Aug 17, 2010 11:41am
It's a full force stop loss attack!!
Interesting results with 21 channel and 30 pip stop loss.
The template has the preset loaded into it. So it should just open when the template is opened.
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  • #145
  • Aug 17, 2010 2:07pm Aug 17, 2010 2:07pm
Quoting jiva34
It's a full force stop loss attack!!
Interesting results with 21 channel and 30 pip stop loss.
The template has the preset loaded into it. So it should just open when the template is opened.
Interesting... Still learning n testing this Briliant EA.. Thanks Jiva n Taiyakixz...
  • #146
  • Aug 17, 2010 3:25pm Aug 17, 2010 3:25pm
Quoting tangianto
Interesting... Still learning n testing this Briliant EA.. Thanks Jiva n Taiyakixz...
Same here, learning and testing.
Very promising....
  • #147
  • Aug 17, 2010 3:37pm Aug 17, 2010 3:37pm
Thanks Jivan for this great EA

One question could you post the preset of the settings wit the 30 pips stop loss because it doesnt work for me with the template ;-)

john225
  • #148
  • Aug 17, 2010 4:29pm Aug 17, 2010 4:29pm
Thanks Jiva for this system!

got another little question....
when i have to start EA? does it matter when london opens or NY etc. or doesn't it matter when to start?

s/l's are set automatically too?

Sorry for my linguistic mistakes...
I'm from germany and i'm working hard on my skills :- )

So -long....
Best regards
Phanti!
Hero calls followed by margin calls...
  • #149
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:13pm Aug 17, 2010 8:13pm
Quoting john225
Thanks Jivan for this great EA

One question could you post the preset of the settings wit the 30 pips stop loss because it doesnt work for me with the template ;-)

john225
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File Type: zip v8.0eurusd1hrtp50tp1000tsl200ch21stop30pe25x1stoch8 13sma13.zip   1 KB | 301 downloads
  • #150
  • Aug 17, 2010 8:27pm Aug 17, 2010 8:27pm
Quoting PhAnTi'
Thanks Jiva for this system!

got another little question....
when i have to start EA? does it matter when london opens or NY etc. or doesn't it matter when to start?

s/l's are set automatically too?

Sorry for my linguistic mistakes...
I'm from germany and i'm working hard on my skills :- )

So -long....
Best regards
Phanti!
you're welcome

start=0
end=24 for trading 24/7, which is what are doing. Otherwise if you want to limit when trades are opened you set according to your broker's gmt.
Stop loss values can be set in the settings. This ea has a few different ways it uses stop losses. See page #1 for a description. Stop losses to limit losses and stop losses to lock in gains.
Habt einen guten Tag
  • #151
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:05am Aug 18, 2010 12:05am
Quoting jiva34
Jiva34 , please put your settings not in a zip mode .
Thank you
  • #152
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:39am Aug 18, 2010 12:39am
@ Gav, i wanted to post it for you, but at this forum it isn't allowed to post .set files. I guess that's why Jiva puts them in zip-files. Maybe you can try downloading it using the paperclip in the upper-right corner instead?

Ok, should started the post with this first:
THANK YOU guys for the work done so far. I've been following the tread a while and ready for testing with the arrival of version 8.1 because my broker (FXCM) also needs the tp/sl changed after the order send.

I wanted to test it, but I get the following error:
Quote
testv8.1 EURUSD,H1: Sell OrderSend 1 failed with error #147
2010.08.18 07:20:38 2010.05.04 07:00 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1 EURUSD,H1: OrderSend error 147
2010.08.18 07:20:38 2010.05.04 07:00 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1 EURUSD,H1: Lots=1, Price=1.31539, ExpireCandles=1
2010.08.18 07:20:38 2010.05.04 07:00 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1 EURUSD,H1: Sell OrderSend 1 failed with error #147

I am using version 8.1 with the latest setting Jiva provided here (21_30)
Every tick mode, 1hr candles on the EURUSD.
When using it with the olde v4.1usdjpy30mtp15tp35pe36ch55t3 400x3 on the USDJPY 30min. I get the same error.

Any suggestions?
  • #153
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:51am Aug 18, 2010 12:51am
Quoting gav
Jiva34 , please put your settings not in a zip mode .
Thank you
Download jZip. It's free and works beautifully!
  • #154
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:01am Aug 18, 2010 2:01am
Quoting gav
Jiva34 , please put your settings not in a zip mode .
Thank you
Evidently set files are too large to send without zipping them.
very nice free shareware for zip and unzip...
jzip.. first class...

http://www.jzip.com/index.php?bt=c&r...FRydnAodkA3s-w

בוא לעשות קצת כסף ...
  • #155
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:06am Aug 18, 2010 2:06am
Quoting sanyhuis
Download jZip. It's free and works beautifully!
Working on getting the stop loss under control... Just can't tolerate 140 pip risk. It's all about entry. Good entry no need for large stop loss...Small stop loss can be hit no problem. A few small losses no big deal while waiting for a big move. That's the idea.
Hallo vriend, Ik vond de Google Translator, beetje leuk ..
  • #156
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:20am Aug 18, 2010 2:20am
Quoting JulesvH
@ Gav, i wanted to post it for you, but at this forum it isn't allowed to post .set files. I guess that's why Jiva puts them in zip-files. Maybe you can try downloading it using the paperclip in the upper-right corner instead?

Ok, should started the post with this first:
THANK YOU guys for the work done so far. I've been following the tread a while and ready for testing with the arrival of version 8.1 because my broker (FXCM) also needs the tp/sl changed after the order send.

I wanted to test it, but I get the following error:


I am using version...
Question for the nuts and bolts man, Taiyakixz will know.
  • #157
  • Aug 18, 2010 2:55am Aug 18, 2010 2:55am
Quoting JulesvH
@ Gav, i wanted to post it for you, but at this forum it isn't allowed to post .set files. I guess that's why Jiva puts them in zip-files. Maybe you can try downloading it using the paperclip in the upper-right corner instead?

Ok, should started the post with this first:
THANK YOU guys for the work done so far. I've been following the tread a while and ready for testing with the arrival of version 8.1 because my broker (FXCM) also needs the tp/sl changed after the order send.

I wanted to test it, but I get the following error:


I am using...
ummmm...error 147 means ERR_TRADE_EXPIRATION_DENIED.
Would you please try attached EA and tell me the results?
It doesn't set expired time with OrderSend, but OrderModify.
I'm not sure that it solves the problem, but I want to see how it works.
Thanks in advance.

To other members:
this file is for testing expiration. Don't use it for other purposes.
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File Type: mq4 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1_testexpired2.mq4   31 KB | 337 downloads
  • #158
  • Aug 18, 2010 3:16am Aug 18, 2010 3:16am
Quoting jiva34
Working on getting the stop loss under control... Just can't tolerate 140 pip risk. It's all about entry. Good entry no need for large stop loss...Small stop loss can be hit no problem. A few small losses no big deal while waiting for a big move. That's the idea.
Hallo vriend, Ik vond de Google Translator, beetje leuk ..
Mooi!!
Dit niewe ding is geweldig! Ik houd van kleine SL's!
Bedankt!
  • #159
  • Aug 18, 2010 3:17am Aug 18, 2010 3:17am
Dear Taiyakixz,

We tried something like this before in v7 series. It seems to have gotten lost there in v7's. It will help identify a safe entry. So if we could try to modify v8.1 I think it would be a good idea.
The v8 series is very nice, runs good. So I hope this doesn't "gum up the works" as they say.
But here is the idea.
A pending order needs to be deleted when a fresh signal appears because the pending order is no longer identifying a good entry if a fresh signal has appeared. The ea should now delete the old order and open the appropriate pending order based on the fresh signal.

The chart illustrates the problem when a pending order remains open when a fresh signal appears and how it can block a good entry.

ありがとうございます。
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  • #160
  • Aug 18, 2010 3:51am Aug 18, 2010 3:51am
Quoting Taiyakixz
ummmm...error 147 means ERR_TRADE_EXPIRATION_DENIED.
Would you please try attached EA and tell me the results?
Didn't solve it. I'm still getting error 147
Here's the log:

2010.08.18 10:26:35 2010.04.23 15:15 Tester: order #1, buy 1.00 EURUSD is opened at 1.33372
2010.08.18 10:26:34 2010.04.23 15:00 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1_testexpired2 EURUSD,H1: OrderModify error 147
2010.08.18 10:26:34 2010.04.23 15:00 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1_testexpired2 EURUSD,H1: open #1 buy stop 1.00 EURUSD at 1.33372 ok
2010.08.18 10:26:29 2010.04.23 11:00 T3MA EURUSD,H1: loaded successfully
2010.08.18 10:26:29 2010.04.23 11:00 Robby DSS Bressert Colored with alert v1.1 EURUSD,H1: loaded successfully
2010.08.18 10:26:29 JIVA Dragon EA DSS T3MA MAs testv8.1_testexpired2 inputs: iMagicNumber=6653879; GMTOffset=3; TradeStartHour=0; TradeEndHour=24; Lots=1; TakeProfit1=50; TrailingStop1=140; TakeProfit2=1000; TrailingStop2=200; StopLoss=30; PendingPips=25; ExpireCandles=1; DelayOrder2=0; DSS_EMA=8; DSS_stoch=13; T3MA_Periods=0; T3MA_VolumeFactor=0.7; Channel_EMAPeriod=21; Channel_EMAShift=0; MA1_Timeframe=0; MA1_Period=13; MA1_Method=0; MA1_Shift=0; MA2_Timeframe=0; MA2_Period=0; MA2_Method=0; MA2_Shift=0; MA3_Timeframe=0; MA

EDIT: sorry for the lay-out. Can't get it full in a quote
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