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  • #283,001
  • Aug 17, 2010 9:23pm Aug 17, 2010 9:23pm
Quoting Spsantos
I reckon you despise Austrian school of economics

To sum it all up, in the end, we're all in the same boat together.
Not really to the first and .... agree to the second.

My response to Barata was that somehow he thinks over there is in better shape or less worse shape maybe.

Like I keep saying, who knows.

But if I had to pick my poison I am glad it is with my own hand (i.e. DC) and not by someone in Brussels or Bonn or wherever. Unless I lived in Belgium or Germany.

But governments wherever they located are the real problem these days. Oh well.
  • #283,002
  • Aug 17, 2010 9:44pm Aug 17, 2010 9:44pm
If We get below 1.2840 We may go to at least 1.2820
  • #283,003
  • Aug 17, 2010 9:54pm Aug 17, 2010 9:54pm
Quoting Barata
If We get below 1.2840 We may go to at least 1.2820
then if it doesn't go all the way to .2820 it may go back to .2840
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #283,004
  • Aug 17, 2010 10:00pm Aug 17, 2010 10:00pm
Quoting The Fool
then if it doesn't go all the way to .2820 it may go back to .2840

... For now the 38.2% zone around .2847 seems to be holding it
  • #283,005
  • Aug 17, 2010 10:07pm Aug 17, 2010 10:07pm
Quoting Barata
If We get below 1.2840 We may go to at least 1.2820
or we may go to at least 1.2819
or we may go to at least 1.2818
or we may go to 0.

or.... we may..
  • #283,006
  • Aug 17, 2010 10:12pm Aug 17, 2010 10:12pm
Quoting darimik
or we may go to at least 1.2819
or we may go to at least 1.2818
or we may go to 0.

or.... we may..
or we may go to at least 1.2818.9999
and then bounce to 2819.3645 and then back to 2815.2317

  • #283,007
  • Aug 17, 2010 10:44pm Aug 17, 2010 10:44pm
Quoting manojsai
or we may go to at least 1.2818.9999
and then bounce to 2819.3645 and then back to 2815.2317

Wow! double decimal points! I want your broker!

(but only if i can auto-set my TP by the fifth level of fibonacci V. Gan level 6 + fifth of Jack...)?
  • #283,008
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:03pm Aug 17, 2010 11:03pm
Quoting gatorinla
dipping its toe in the MF zone.

Gator, I managed to replicate your green price levels in this picture by drawing a fib on the M15 from the low of aug 16, and extending it so the 88.1 level touched the nearest high on aug 17 (2915)

Is this the correct method of how you draw them?

I am stil trying to figure out the red levels
  • #283,009
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:06pm Aug 17, 2010 11:06pm
hello,everybody

I'm from China, an Elliott Waves trader. This is my opinian
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  • #283,010
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:17pm Aug 17, 2010 11:17pm
Quoting SaviorSix
Gator, I managed to replicate your green price levels in this picture by drawing a fib on the M15 from the low of aug 16, and extending it so the 88.1 level touched the nearest high on aug 17 (2915)

Is this the correct method of how you draw them?

I am stil trying to figure out the red levels
it is like a treasure hunt,many have attemped and failed.
it is not the normal fib ratio and some divisor or multiple of it and there are some 18+ lines.
open your fib property and play,maybe you get it. but the numbers are correct and follow some natural order.
  • #283,011
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:34pm Aug 17, 2010 11:34pm
Quoting manojsai
it is like a treasure hunt,many have attemped and failed.
it is not the normal fib ratio and some divisor or multiple of it and there are some 18+ lines.
open your fib property and play,maybe you get it. but the numbers are correct and follow some natural order.
Thanks for your reply,

I've added halfway points between the common fib numbers ((50.0 - 38.2)/2) for the levels between the lines marked with letters, and the 50% line seems to always be equivalent to the MID/C line.

I can see that the numbers will sometimes be off a couple pips, but I just chalk it up to timezones/broker. Other than that, it seems like just figuring out between what points the lines are drawn....
  • #283,012
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:34pm Aug 17, 2010 11:34pm
Quoting SaviorSix
Gator, I managed to replicate your green price levels in this picture by drawing a fib on the M15 from the low of aug 16, and extending it so the 88.1 level touched the nearest high on aug 17 (2915)

Is this the correct method of how you draw them?

I am stil trying to figure out the red levels
What I have found is that many of Gators figures tie in with Murray Math, fib and trend lines, they would have to otherwise Gator would have a secret that no-one else in the world has.
  • #283,013
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:41pm Aug 17, 2010 11:41pm
Quoting beyond
What I have found is that many of Gators figures tie in with Murray Math, fib and trend lines, they would have to otherwise Gator would have a secret that no-one else in the world has.
maybe we shall have gator ratios just like fib or EW.
many times i have noticed that numbers given by pichfork,trendlines,past R/S ,drummond are same to the exact .diff system same number.
  • #283,014
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:47pm Aug 17, 2010 11:47pm
Quoting SaviorSix
Gator, I managed to replicate your green price levels in this picture by drawing a fib on the M15 from the low of aug 16, and extending it so the 88.1 level touched the nearest high on aug 17 (2915)

Is this the correct method of how you draw them?

I am stil trying to figure out the red levels
green is second baby bull move to 2936.9 ... we just retraced to the 50% mark to that level in the place marked mofu.. this #2 will determine if there is a 3 or not. 3 will target 2983.. but #2 is weak ... its may be weak because we are on the edge of a much bigger trend. the red/purple levels are bearish the green bullish. 28519 may eventually cap this bull.. until 2936.9 there are no bulls. even if we get there we should retrace below 2936.9. so if your bullish wait for this before entering. for myself ill wait for the movie. all we did since Friday was bear flag building. im not saying we move tonight. it may take days.

the purple line is a important place. its a big mofu zone. to cross it bears need momentum. a big flag could do it. or some little boy pointed a finger at the grownups saying "the king has no clothes" then once the grownups realize the European banks leveraged 3-4 times more then u.s. comparable to gdp. we will cross that 880 pip gorge. then some..
its like japan having a strong currency. they spend 2 X each year more then they take in.
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  • #283,015
  • Aug 17, 2010 11:51pm Aug 17, 2010 11:51pm
Quoting beyond
What I have found is that many of Gators figures tie in with Murray Math, fib and trend lines, they would have to otherwise Gator would have a secret that no-one else in the world has.
*L* i got murry lines about 6 weeks ago.. and just last week was told how to set them.. i kinda like how the daily fibs get close to my numbers. numbers i got from 10 yr old information.. i rarely use info this old. mostly 2008 info..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #283,016
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:07am Aug 18, 2010 12:07am
Man i'd kill for a vertical fib tool that lets you look at time/fib measurements. Anyone got one?
  • #283,017
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:07am Aug 18, 2010 12:07am
Quoting gatorinla
green is second baby bull move to 2936.9 ... we just retraced to the 50% mark to that level in the place marked mofu.. this #2 will determine if there is a 3 or not. 3 will target 2983.. but #2 is weak ... its may be weak because we are on the edge of a much bigger trend. the red/purple levels are bearish the green bullish. 28519 may eventually cap this bull.. until 2936.9 there are no bulls. even if we get there we should retrace below 2936.9. so if your bullish wait for this before entering. for myself ill wait for the movie. all we did since...
thanks for your reply!

Now I see where 2936.9 is coming from - its the weekly pivot. So the fib low is placed at the nearby low, the 100% placed at that particular target (weekly/monthly sr levels I assume, or all-time fibs also?)....and vice versa for bear moves....

now trying tofigure out the significance of 2983 and 28519 (i understand they are targets but more figurig out why....2936 was more obvious)
  • #283,018
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:08am Aug 18, 2010 12:08am
Quoting gatorinla
*L* i got murry lines about 6 weeks ago.. and just last week was told how to set them.. i kinda like how the daily fibs get close to my numbers. numbers i got from 10 yr old information.. i rarely use info this old. mostly 2008 info..
I tried Murray Math many times and found they kept resetting and were different for each time zone, so I never used them, then I finally found this version, brilliant and stable, this is the one I meant appears to match some of your numbers.

Now all I have to do is stick to trading it instead of that dumb voice that says buy when its sell and sell when its buy. LOL
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  • #283,019
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:10am Aug 18, 2010 12:10am
Quoting stevefx
Man i'd kill for a vertical fib tool that lets you look at time/fib measurements. Anyone got one?
Yeah. It's called Dynamic Trader. Not Meta Trader.
  • #283,020
  • Aug 18, 2010 12:14am Aug 18, 2010 12:14am
Quoting beyond
What I have found is that many of Gators figures tie in with Murray Math, fib and trend lines, they would have to otherwise Gator would have a secret that no-one else in the world has.
i posted 2703 Friday i think, if not my bad.. but if i did, it was a target, i think #12... anyway i dont think murry or any tl was available then. but if you take 2703 and draw a fib to 33339 you will come up with the red line just above the mofu line.@ 2851.9..... i think.. to be honest i never asked murry.. but if he has it i may start using him.. it would be a hell of a lot less work..
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