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  • #282,441
  • Edited 12:49pm Aug 16, 2010 12:22pm | Edited 12:49pm
Quoting wannaberich
Gator,

ur charts shows a possible entry with tp at 3055 and sl below 2749?

good R/R.

or do i have to learn to read?

green pips
remember my entry.(as a lt swing trader)..is 3281 and above.. 3340 had a meaning to me. my bull said 3281... i allowed 6% slippage on a big move.. 6% was above 3340... i staggered entries up to 3340... my last one never got triggered. if i was bullish today (as a day trader) i would have taken a position on the #1 target pullback.. but i cant cause of last weeks pa and candle. we are on the edge of possible 880 plus pips.. we are still following a bear path from 1.6.. it has yet to deviate. these charts are not new. i posted them many times before. no matter what system u use 50% levels on a chart are dangerous.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #282,442
  • Aug 16, 2010 12:23pm Aug 16, 2010 12:23pm
Quoting uraceulose
sry i disagree here...not much capital, spare time isn't a resource and they're not really technology leaders. Where are the commodities or the manufacturing capabilities?
I lived in Europe and Asia, but id rather live where its sunny and cheap
  • #282,443
  • Aug 16, 2010 12:28pm Aug 16, 2010 12:28pm
Germany?!?!?!?!?!

Portugal is sunnier and cheaper. and lazier. and less organized. and more bureaucratic. less productive.

but it's cheap. and sunny too when the sky is not cloudy LOL


Quoting bad$ala
I lived in Europe and Asia, but id rather live where its sunny and cheap
dreams do come true.
  • #282,444
  • Aug 16, 2010 12:29pm Aug 16, 2010 12:29pm
Quoting bad$ala
I lived in Europe and Asia, but id rather live where its sunny and cheap
yeah, i'm not a hater..I just love it when people come in talking about what a great situation EU is in now that the pair has rallied 1000 pips or more..
I haven't lived outside of the US but there is good objective info if you look in the correct places
  • #282,445
  • Aug 16, 2010 12:33pm Aug 16, 2010 12:33pm
Hey guys

Just got back from a long holiday. Anyway seems like my weekly chart is showing a massive downmove potential. T1 = 1.2329.

Havent done much work on that so dont take it as a trade. Just took a glance at the chart. Take 1/5th of normal position on it.
  • #282,446
  • Aug 16, 2010 12:35pm Aug 16, 2010 12:35pm
I recon it's down to 2715 or up to 3049
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  • #282,447
  • Aug 16, 2010 12:38pm Aug 16, 2010 12:38pm
Quoting suthmo
I recon it's down to 2715 or up to 3049
I'll go with your 2715.
All that is left in FF is just plain garbage. "Cloggie"
  • #282,448
  • Aug 16, 2010 12:54pm Aug 16, 2010 12:54pm
Don´t forget America´s continuing wars and massive bigbro gvt, anyway all this EZ panic thing will ensure things will be different in the future: Less GVT spending, lower taxes in the long term, there´s no other way around and they know it...

Germany will just have more and more power within EU, and you know how pragmatic they are when facing serious problems...

As for manufacturing, I honestly think EZ beats USA.

Not to say EZ > USA, but you really shouldn´t underestimate Europe.
  • #282,449
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:01pm Aug 16, 2010 1:01pm
Quoting Barata
Don´t forget America´s continuing wars and massive bigbro gvt, anyway all this EZ panic thing will ensure things will be different in the future: Less GVT spending, lower taxes in the long term.

Germany will just have more and more power within EU, and you know how pragmatic they are when facing serious problems...

As for manufacturing, I honestly think EZ beats USA.

Not to say EZ > USA, but you really shouldn´t underestimate Europe.

lol you really think that?
  • #282,450
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:01pm Aug 16, 2010 1:01pm
Really stands out on this graph.
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  • #282,451
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:04pm Aug 16, 2010 1:04pm
Quoting Barata
Don´t forget America´s continuing wars and massive bigbro gvt, anyway all this EZ panic thing will ensure things will be different in the future: Less GVT spending, lower taxes in the long term.

Germany will just have more and more power within EU, and you know how pragmatic they are when facing serious problems...

As for manufacturing, I honestly think EZ beats USA.

Not to say EZ > USA, but you really shouldn´t underestimate Europe.
In what ways on the manufacturing? Please explain more...Germany makes BMW and Italy makes super cars but what else? I mean every day stuff that China/Asia can't just take over or aren't already?

Our "wars"...half of them are to help protect oil in countries where you guys buy it from...we'll be safe and fine before you guys will. straight up

Germany will have more and more power within the FAILING EU ...what kind of UNION is it really? Are they really UNITED?

You shouldn't over estimate Europe just cause you live there. W/O our pointers on the stress tests and that G20 meeting...EU would be in even worse shape.

The manufacturing/commodities is not about what you or I THINK bro...Europe does not have any valuable commodities...period

You don't manufacture shit when compared to US/Asia. The stuff is overpriced...period. We arent' buying as many beemers lately if you haven't noticed.
  • #282,452
  • Edited 3:26pm Aug 16, 2010 1:09pm | Edited 3:26pm
Whoever said that EU is in a Great situation doesn't leave there. The EU in economic terms is as "old", slow, and comatose but rich, "efficient" and develop (in economic and social terms) as it has been in the last 30 years.

Almost nothing has changed (that's actually the problem) and every small change (in competitiveness and innovation) takes 6 times longer than the rest of world but with the only difference that these small changes are usually implemented and always let them stay as front runners.

The key for Europe is the lack of real external pressures to innovate and reform. A part from the "old" bigs US and Japan and the attempts of China in some highly labour intensive manufacturing sectors but relatively small in importance there is not serious pressure. In other words, they are where they are because nobody else is there to take over.

Things will change in the future for sure and new players will arise but that's very very very long term... meanwhile the EU will stay where they are ...at the top of the list with the US and Japan.


sisse

Quoting uraceulose
yeah, i'm not a hater..I just love it when people come in talking about what a great situation EU is in now that the pair has rallied 1000 pips or more..
I haven't lived outside of the US but there is good objective info if you look in the correct places
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
  • #282,453
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:18pm Aug 16, 2010 1:18pm
Quoting Barata
Don´t forget America´s continuing wars and massive bigbro gvt, anyway all this EZ panic thing will ensure things will be different in the future: Less GVT spending, lower taxes in the long term, there´s no other way around and they know it...

Germany will just have more and more power within EU, and you know how pragmatic they are when facing serious problems...

As for manufacturing, I honestly think EZ beats USA.

Not to say EZ > USA, but you really shouldn´t underestimate Europe.
*L* how.. can Europe feed itself? does europe have commodities? ever heard of a guy called Henry Ford? Ever wonder why he did not build his plant next to iron deposits in Canada? its basic math... 2 for one.. it took 2 tons of coal to produce one ton of steel.. its part of the reason your commodity countries will always have a strong currency.. its all of the reason those w/o will weaken..if you got them banking and industry will follow. when they do others cant compete. If government allows.

its where i would put a bar etc.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #282,454
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:20pm Aug 16, 2010 1:20pm
Quoting sisse
Whoever said that EU is in a Great situation doesn't leave there....
*L* japan just dropped a notch
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #282,455
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:33pm Aug 16, 2010 1:33pm
Someone out there still buying €.
They think they are smarter than I am.
  • #282,456
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:34pm Aug 16, 2010 1:34pm
Quoting uraceulose
In what ways on the manufacturing? Please explain more...Germany makes BMW and Italy makes super cars but what else? I mean every day stuff that China/Asia can't just take over or aren't already?

Our "wars"...half of them are to help protect oil in countries where you guys buy it from...we'll be safe and fine before you guys will. straight up

Germany will have more and more power within the FAILING EU ...what kind of UNION is it really? Are they really UNITED?

You shouldn't over estimate Europe just cause you live there. W/O our pointers...

yawn
  • #282,457
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:42pm Aug 16, 2010 1:42pm
The pair may just range out the rest of session. I exited my short too early.
  • #282,458
  • Edited 1:56pm Aug 16, 2010 1:45pm | Edited 1:56pm
Quoting uraceulose
In what ways on the manufacturing? Please explain more...Germany makes BMW and Italy makes super cars but what else? I mean every day stuff that China/Asia can't just take over or aren't already?
Apples to Apples, We are talking about EURUSD, you know America also lost much manufacturing and industry to Asia...

Italy is not only supercars, take a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_companies


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Our "wars"...half of them are to help protect oil in countries where you guys buy it from...we'll be safe and fine before you guys will. straight up
True, Without America´s wars maybe I would not be here writing this, America´s blood saved us from the various branches of true hardcore socialism...


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Germany will have more and more power within the FAILING EU ...what kind of UNION is it really? Are they really UNITED?
Maybe more than you think, most people in the PIGS countries are tired of amateur GVT´s, and would welcome more power to Brussels/Frankfurt.



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You don't manufacture shit when compared to US/Asia. The stuff is overpriced...period. We arent' buying as many beemers lately if you haven't noticed.
Look, I still remember how shitty The cars Ford used to sold here were before they moved R&D to Germany....

Now they´re as good as other German cars: They´re German...



Overpriced?

http://www.dtlamotorsvw.com/new/Volk...0121d77594.htm
  • #282,459
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:48pm Aug 16, 2010 1:48pm
hope this bull flag holds or i will end up with a chicken bone stuck in my throat. LOL
dreams do come true.
  • #282,460
  • Aug 16, 2010 1:50pm Aug 16, 2010 1:50pm
you and commodities ... lol just kidding.

IMO, that was true before I don't think is 100% relevant anymore. Only the finance/banking/serivce industry (nothing to do with manufacturing) in the City of London alone is half of ALL U.S. manufacturing which only represent in average (2007-2009) 12% of GDP (and a big chunk of this numbers come from highly specialize and advance industries almost a copy paste of Europe manufacturing sector but a little bit bigger).

If we made a list on potential currencies based only on commodities we will end up with a very odd large list of very poor and underdeveloped countries....

sisse


Quoting gatorinla
*L* how.. can Europe feed itself? does europe have commodities? ever heard of a guy called Henry Ford? Ever wonder why he did not build his plant next to iron deposits in Canada? its basic math... 2 for one.. it took 2 tons of coal to produce one ton of steel.. its part of the reason your commodity countries will always have a strong currency.. its all of the reason those w/o will weaken..if you got them banking and industry will follow. when they do others cant compete. If government allows.

its where i would put a bar etc.
Pending conversations? PM for a chat...I am mainly in OTM now
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