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  • #274,281
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:14pm Jul 22, 2010 2:14pm
Quoting Jhig
I like to think I'm successful. And true, were FF users who made it big and left the forums, I don't post as much as I use to (busy trading and running the company) but I still contribute something once a day, or so. Being part of a forum doesn't mean a trader is not successful as there are traders who visit FF looking for answers and there are traders like me, contributing to the community. I contribute because I want to and over the years have developed friendship with certain users and have used FF to keep open while discussing the one thing...
Hmm - yes - I know that some so-called Bank employees do trade on their own personal accounts - or on their wifes or children accounts. As for the most common known finance service companies employees it is forbidden to do such things. In most companies that I know it is not allowed. But nevertheless - some do - and I know that. But the real experienced traders - specially if they got the real skills how to trade - they do not have the time to watch and read this here - and even if they had the time - they would not like it much. Moreover there is no real need for them to do so - as they have much deeper knowledge of much better and more efficient methods to decide their trades. A floor trader never spend much time with watching screens and charts. As he has got much better methods to estimate a situation.

That is a reason why the better companies - as Goldman or what ever - do pay more than sufficiant salaries. And it is no need for them - the companies as well as for the employees - but they do / practise this way - contractual of course, that not allowed.

Mostly - if they do so - they (the employees) are not concerned with trading things or coming from trading departments / sections - even if / when / in case they are / were employed with one of those companies.

Please excuse my clumsy ENGLISH - I could better describe what I want to say with that in my native language. But - I know that - because I worked with and for such personell or staff members in former days.

Some might have taken a look in here - or observed it for a while invisible - but as far as I could imagine - they would not have got or felt much real pleasure by doing so.


Entschuldigung - nur so ein Gedanke...

Excuse me - it just my idea about that..

;-)
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  • #274,282
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:15pm Jul 22, 2010 2:15pm
Quoting T@rantula
Even 2817 is bullish
In that case it will constiute an inverted hs for the bull , yes but validation tl again .
fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #274,283
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:21pm Jul 22, 2010 2:21pm
Quoting mercy seat
Hmm - yes - I know that some so-called Bank employees do trade on their own personal accounts - or on their wifes or children accounts. As for the most common known finance service companies employees it is forbidden to do such things. In most companies that I know it is not allowed. But nevertheless - some do - and I know that. But the real experienced traders - specially if they got the real skills how to trade - they do not have the time to watch and read this here - and even if they had the time - they would not like it much. Moreover there...

....ein guter gedanke!
  • #274,284
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:24pm Jul 22, 2010 2:24pm
read trading in the zone. liked it.

problem is not identifying. is solving. and the way i see it, just keep at it, until your unconscious learns it too. what your conscious already knows.

takes me to the edge of despair some times. do u know what gives me strength? reading the posts of the pros here (AK, Gator, Malcom, Fontu, Driver, Jhig, Atlast, Nene, to name some)and seeing that it is possible. (some times i think it isn't)

if they could do it, i will too. it's just a matter of time. (hope u don't find this immodest of me...)

Quoting tradertom
that's good if you know where your mistakes are.
what you are writing say thousands of other traders as well. all make the same mistakes. "Revenge trading" "salami tactics ".......
there are some good books on this subject - one I personally find the best and gave me a lot, "the disciplined trader" by mark douglas.
dreams do come true.
  • #274,285
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:34pm Jul 22, 2010 2:34pm
Quoting wannaberich
read trading in the zone. liked it.

problem is not identifying. is solving. and the way i see it, just keep at it, until your unconscious learns it too. what your conscious already knows.

takes me to the edge of despair some times. do u know what gives me strength? reading the posts of the pros here (AK, Gator, Malcom, Fontu, Driver, Jhig, Atlast, Nene, to name some)and seeing that it is possible. (some times i think it isn't)

if they could do it, i will too. it's just a matter of time. (hope u don't find this immodest of me...)

of course - always stay here ...
BUT - do not forget. the market will not change - you need it!
if you change yourself and a bad trade does not take personally, you're off on the right. Incidentally, even the successful trader you mention have bad days ... but a good MM
  • #274,286
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:35pm Jul 22, 2010 2:35pm
Quoting wannaberich
read trading in the zone. liked it.

problem is not identifying. is solving. and the way i see it, just keep at it, until your unconscious learns it too. what your conscious already knows.

takes me to the edge of despair some times. do u know what gives me strength? reading the posts of the pros here (AK, Gator, Malcom, Fontu, Driver, Jhig, Atlast, Nene, to name some)and seeing that it is possible. (some times i think it isn't)

if they could do it, i will too. it's just a matter of time. (hope u don't find this immodest of me...)


it all sounds so easy to - but it's damn hard ... day after day
  • #274,287
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:40pm Jul 22, 2010 2:40pm
Bugging out here for few pips. I will leave this battle behind. Proably check in early a.m. for the ride of the week.
  • #274,288
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:40pm Jul 22, 2010 2:40pm
Quoting tradertom
it all sounds so easy to - but it's damn hard ... day after day
Exactly - it is not easy money making. Mr. André Kostolany used to say: "Erst kommen die Schmerzen, dann kommt das Geld!"
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  • #274,289
  • Jul 22, 2010 2:46pm Jul 22, 2010 2:46pm
Quoting mercy seat
Exactly - it is not easy money making. Mr. André Kostolany used to say: "Erst kommen die Schmerzen, dann kommt das Geld!"
good night

[wo er recht hat hat er recht-der kostolany]
  • #274,290
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:00pm Jul 22, 2010 3:00pm
I am getting a smell of some bearishness coming thru on the 1 hr, guys. I think we may visit 2850 area here as we talked about earlier. Tweezer tops were the first sign but I will not trade on TT's alone. We also have an Inside Bar breaking short. So she is getting a little shorty. We are also getting close to a MACD cross.
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  • #274,291
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:02pm Jul 22, 2010 3:02pm
Ok, I also got a small bearish sign on the 4 hr. Look at the length of the top wick on the candle that touched the DTL. It is more than 50% longer than the candle right before it. That is an old sign my granpappy taught me.

Quoting Nene
I am getting a smell of some bearishness coming thru on the 1 hr, guys. I think we may visit 2850 area here as we talked about earlier. Tweezer tops were the first sign but I will not trade on TT's alone. We also have an Inside Bar breaking short. So she is getting a little shorty. We are also getting close to a MACD cross.
  • #274,292
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:05pm Jul 22, 2010 3:05pm
sl at be by now. seems like it won't pass the 23.8 fib. if it does next fib on my book is 854. that seems like a bear number for me. next bull number is 35.

a run up to 54 would make up all of todays losses... there i go again judging my current trade on my past results

Quoting Nene
I am getting a smell of some bearishness coming thru on the 1 hr, guys. I think we may visit 2850 area here as we talked about earlier. Tweezer tops were the first sign but I will not trade on TT's alone. We also have an Inside Bar breaking short. So she is getting a little shorty. We are also getting close to a MACD cross.
dreams do come true.
  • #274,293
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:05pm Jul 22, 2010 3:05pm
Quoting Nene
I am getting a smell of some bearishness coming thru on the 1 hr, guys. I think we may visit 2850 area here as we talked about earlier. Tweezer tops were the first sign but I will not trade on TT's alone. We also have an Inside Bar breaking short. So she is getting a little shorty. We are also getting close to a MACD cross.
there are 2 possibilities for tomorrow that we will see 2850 and 1.3050 but what i am smelling it is looking like that in morning we will hit on top side but before stress test or on stress test we will visit downside and will close on lower side tomorrow because last year on US Bank Stress test it was positive but dollar was fell and market react crazily so i think its no matter what result will come tomorrow we can see bear in action...its looking bearish now but i think in morning we will make high..let see how it goes 2 short positions from 2900 and tp set at 2850 and 2860 let see how it goes...

Ub
  • #274,294
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:08pm Jul 22, 2010 3:08pm
Does anyone know when the exact time the stress test results are released?
In hoc signo vinces
  • #274,295
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:10pm Jul 22, 2010 3:10pm
Quoting okcowboy13
Does anyone know when the exact time the stress test results are released?
Ive heard that it releases 2 hours before the NYSE closes
  • #274,296
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:13pm Jul 22, 2010 3:13pm
Quoting okcowboy13
Does anyone know when the exact time the stress test results are released?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38357452
  • #274,297
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:14pm Jul 22, 2010 3:14pm
Quoting Nene
I am getting a smell of some bearishness coming thru on the 1 hr, guys. I think we may visit 2850 area here as we talked about earlier. Tweezer tops were the first sign but I will not trade on TT's alone. We also have an Inside Bar breaking short. So she is getting a little shorty. We are also getting close to a MACD cross.
OK - I have heard what you say. MACD cross looming. I suggest - scroll your H1 chart a little bit back - so that you can see July 12th as well on you chart. Nearly same situation. MACD crossed down later then. But prices did not follow...

Tricky situation - he ^^ ... Anyway - risk aversion has lowered - trotz Bernanke - and all eyes are on "Stress Test Results" now...

Do you really think - that the market wants to trade it in the trough unless they had a chance to get that "Stress Test News" ... ?


Take care
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  • #274,298
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:15pm Jul 22, 2010 3:15pm
anyone short?
  • #274,299
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:19pm Jul 22, 2010 3:19pm
Quoting mercy seat
OK - I have heard what you say. MACD cross looming. I suggest - scroll your H1 chart a little bit back - so that you can see July 12th as well on you chart. Nearly same situation. MACD crossed down later then. But prices did not follow...

Tricky situation - he ^^ ... Anyway - risk aversion has lowered - trotz Bernanke - and all eyes are on "Stress Test Results" now...

Do you really think - that the market wants to trade it in the trough unless they had a chance to get that "Stress Test News" ... ?


Take care

I think those so called stress tests are old news already because of leaks from the banks themselves. Unless of course there is a surprise and that is what a lot of people are probable afraid enough of to stay on the sidelines.
  • #274,300
  • Jul 22, 2010 3:21pm Jul 22, 2010 3:21pm
I am looking for a series of signs to give me an IDEA of the direction. I realize it is slow now. But I believe we are going down soon but not necessarily that far down. Someone just gave me to possibilities, well, I can give 2 possibilities all day long.

Quoting mercy seat
OK - I have heard what you say. MACD cross looming. I suggest - scroll your H1 chart a little bit back - so that you can see July 12th as well on you chart. Nearly same situation. MACD crossed down later then. But prices did not follow...

Tricky situation - he ^^ ... Anyway - risk aversion has lowered - trotz Bernanke - and all eyes are on "Stress Test Results" now...

Do you really think - that the market wants to trade it in the trough unless they had a chance to get that "Stress Test News" ... ?


Take care
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