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  • #13,641
  • Jun 23, 2010 10:16am Jun 23, 2010 10:16am
Quoting Rafiki

Hello Kinko,

Your illustrations while I do not understand them are very captivating.

May I suggest you post some potential trades using them so that we can follow and learn more.

Thanks and cheers
Rafiki, Not easy with the 5m because of the time constraints but will see what I can do on the higher timeframes - which I usually do not trade
  • #13,642
  • Jun 23, 2010 7:28pm Jun 23, 2010 7:28pm
it's a perfectly strong fall on monthly, weekly, daily, h4 - but it's too old/long, with a danger of a retracement/reversal.

i'm waiting for a complete breakout on h1.
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  • #13,643
  • Jun 24, 2010 11:17am Jun 24, 2010 11:17am
Quoting Rafiki

Hello Kinko,

Your illustrations while I do not understand them are very captivating.

May I suggest you post some potential trades using them so that we can follow and learn more.

Thanks and cheers
EURUSD H1
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  • #13,644
  • Jun 24, 2010 11:25am Jun 24, 2010 11:25am
Quoting Kinko
EURUSD H1
Out on the M1 when I noticed the divergence
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  • #13,645
  • Jun 25, 2010 2:20am Jun 25, 2010 2:20am
Question to the in house experts on Ichimoku again regarding exit strategy.

I like to exit with a Stop Loss. That way, profits run up without leaving money on the table.

That being explained, what would be the pros/cons to placing a stop loss on the latest Kijin Sen?

I believe that it means I would get stopped when the Tenkan Sen and Kijin Sen finally cross. For example, on a long on the daily chart, if I reviewed my Stop Loss daily and placed it on the latest Kijin Sen, eventually it would cross with Tenkan Sen and I'd get stopped at a profit.

Feedback is appreciated.

Thanks!
Not all sins are created equal
  • #13,646
  • Jun 25, 2010 7:05am Jun 25, 2010 7:05am
Quoting Jay Walker
Question to the in house experts on Ichimoku again regarding exit strategy.

I like to exit with a Stop Loss....
Hey Jay

personally i like trailing the Kijun Sen "steps" as i call it. a KS step = when KS is flat for more than 1 candle (this is of course just a rule of thumb, it all depends on the particular trade)
of course add a bit of a buffer for the odd spike
this way, you stay fairly long in the trend, giving enough room for retraces. of course you give something back in the end because if your stop finally is hit, the highest floating profit is already history.

in most situations this works quite great.

regards
Patience is key.
  • #13,647
  • Jun 25, 2010 8:33am Jun 25, 2010 8:33am
Quoting moetzger
Hey Jay

personally i like trailing the Kijun Sen "steps" as i call it. a KS step = when KS is flat for more than 1 candle (this is of course just a rule of thumb, it all depends on the particular trade)
of course add a bit of a buffer for the odd spike
this way, you stay fairly long in the trend, giving enough room for retraces. of course you give something back in the end because if your stop finally is hit, the highest floating profit is already history.

in most situations this works quite great.

regards
I can't put a screenshot of it right now (perhaps later today) where the Kijun Sen is above the candle on a long. I obviously couldn't place my S/L above the current rate at this time.

So would I stick with Tenkan Sen then?
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  • #13,648
  • Jun 25, 2010 7:53pm Jun 25, 2010 7:53pm
http://i47.tinypic.com/2wh13et.gif

Tenkan Sen is the dark blue line where Kijun Sen is in red. The red dots are Parabolic SAR (unrelated to Ichimoku).

On a long, one couldn't put a stop on the Kijun Sen but could on the Tenkan Sen at the moment.

Thoughts??
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  • #13,649
  • Edited 4:30am Jun 26, 2010 3:57am | Edited 4:30am
Quoting Jay Walker
Tenkan Sen is the dark blue line where Kijun Sen is in red...
On a long, one couldn't put a stop on the Kijun Sen but could on the Tenkan Sen at the moment.
Thoughts??
Hello Jay,
im not very familiar with Ichimoku, but let me try...

if price is really bullish, u might want to wait for TS & KS to make a correct formation, that is, price is above TS & KS, with TS above KS.
currently, there is a red candle right at the cloud. the cloud (or the TS) must hold as support, & price must continue to move up again, past the KS. only then can u start looking for (safe) longs.

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..what would be the pros/cons to placing a stop loss on the latest Kijin Sen?..
depending on the settings of the Ichimoku u are gonna use,
i think it's much like the PSAR that u use...
price will either get enough/excessive/inadequate room 'to breathe' & your trade will either develop/get taken out early.
  • #13,650
  • Jun 26, 2010 6:34am Jun 26, 2010 6:34am
See 5 kumos are mixed.
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  • #13,651
  • Jun 26, 2010 6:37am Jun 26, 2010 6:37am
See how 5 kumos are sorted
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  • #13,652
  • Jun 27, 2010 7:15pm Jun 27, 2010 7:15pm
I tried the kumobreak indicators(both kbreakout and kbreakout-modified) last night and it kept giving me repeated alarms for the same signal - had to delete it in the end.
Does anybody have a different indicator?
  • #13,653
  • Jun 27, 2010 8:48pm Jun 27, 2010 8:48pm
USDCAD 1hr kumo break out
http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/w...DCAD_short.jpg
  • #13,654
  • Edited Jun 28, 2010 5:55pm Jun 27, 2010 8:57pm | Edited Jun 28, 2010 5:55pm
wrong post in wrong thread
  • #13,655
  • Jun 28, 2010 8:57am Jun 28, 2010 8:57am
Quoting Jay Walker

Tenkan Sen is the dark blue line where Kijun Sen is in red. The red dots are Parabolic SAR (unrelated to Ichimoku).

On a long, one couldn't put a stop on the Kijun Sen but could on the Tenkan Sen at the moment.

Thoughts??
Jay, sure, use the sens as you would any R/S level. Where to set stops depends on your risk-to-reward, trading style, current pips this trade, mood, etc. The sens can be used in multiple ways including their angles, divergence from one another, crosses. Try this as an experiment: don't exit until M30 kijun ANGLE reverses, unless a strong candle config reverse or consol. occurs first (engulfing, reverse shadow, pee-wee series of candles).
Vita est simillimus forexum(Life is like forex)
  • #13,656
  • Jun 28, 2010 6:54pm Jun 28, 2010 6:54pm
Quoting dennis681
Jay, sure, use the sens as you would any R/S level. Where to set stops depends on your risk-to-reward, trading style, current pips this trade, mood, etc. The sens can be used in multiple ways including their angles, divergence from one another, crosses. Try this as an experiment: don't exit until M30 kijun ANGLE reverses, unless a strong candle config reverse or consol. occurs first (engulfing, reverse shadow, pee-wee series of candles).

Thanks Dennis.

Of course, the stop depends on the style. I just wanted to check with the Ichimoku-ites(is that even a word?) if what I had in mind was crazy, suicidal, or worse.
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  • #13,657
  • Jun 29, 2010 11:05am Jun 29, 2010 11:05am
Hey Kino my friend, is there anyway you can
add an alert to this? We can choose any
or all three of the cci alert when it crosses
50/-50, please just telling which pair
and which cci crossed up 50 or down
-50.

Can you do? Would be greatly appreciated my friend.

Brian

Quoting kinonen
3 cci in the same window
kino
  • #13,658
  • Jun 29, 2010 11:10am Jun 29, 2010 11:10am
Kino, sorry, could you make it so we can get a cross alert
when any of the three cci cross 50/-50 when both the other
two are already the same?? Ie it wont alert when the 600 cci
crosses below -50 if cci 200 and 400 are not both already
below -50.

This would be so awesome... as soon as its done (hopeful thinking
I will send you
something regarding.

Thanks!

Brian

Quoting kinonen
3 cci in the same window
kino
  • #13,659
  • Jun 29, 2010 12:07pm Jun 29, 2010 12:07pm
If you come back to this thread, please post your
template with this setup and how is this
working for you now your setup?

thanks!!

Brian

Quoting Paulus
Hi

slight diffrent set up for me

I have removed TS and KS as i found it was getting me in very late at times which is not good on a 5min time frame.I simply replaced it with HA for entry and exit

Shorts

My direction is determined by the CS line if this is under the cloud short over the cloud longs

I then need price in or above cloud this gives me a good rally in a down trend pull back in an up trend.

I then enter on 1st red HA for short white for longs.

My exit is on the 15 min so if short 5 min I exit when I get a white 15min HA...
  • #13,660
  • Jun 29, 2010 2:10pm Jun 29, 2010 2:10pm
I take the good set ups but also trading on just price action now as well

One good signal today in my UK time zone for 27 pips

Chart HA and templates attched

cheers

paulus
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