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  • #257,601
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:00am Jun 14, 2010 10:00am
Quoting minosd
europe can print euros too! And US has to pay interest on their loans too
The individual countries cannot, only the ECB can. Greece or France can not print money themselves. Which is why to get out of debt, Greece is borrowing even more... not printing.
  • #257,602
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:01am Jun 14, 2010 10:01am
great short just happened
  • #257,603
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:01am Jun 14, 2010 10:01am
the dow is pulling in also
  • #257,604
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:01am Jun 14, 2010 10:01am
Are you kidding.....The U.S. cannot be attacked not even like they claim in 911.....no terrorrists....no superpowers want to end your way of life....world war 4 is in our heads.......Capitalism wages war.......not the people waging war..........or any other country........Konderatieve cycle .......War is meant to control the money supply of any country.......

Actually I don't need to update you on the past but now we are on AGENDA 21..............Where the environment is more important than human.......So they can move us all in a camp because the land you live on is more valuable or they own it already by

An Educated person is a threat to the environment ....because has higher income....higher consumption.......the world is getting dumb on purpose...

Quoting Jhig
have been started for a whole lot less. When the US reaches it "Armageddon" or economic collapse because of its own stupidity of devaluing the country, what makes you think some country doesn't see it as a perfect time to attack. Not saying this will happen, this is a worst case scenario.
  • #257,605
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:02am Jun 14, 2010 10:02am
Price found resistance. Reason for the retrace.
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  • #257,606
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:02am Jun 14, 2010 10:02am
Quoting sed34
great short just happened
Lots of stop losses were hit. Thank God I stopped trading 1 hour ago.
  • #257,607
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:03am Jun 14, 2010 10:03am
Do you know where the European Central Bank was build?

Quoting TheWalrus
The individual countries cannot, only the ECB can. Greece or France can not print money themselves. Which is why to get out of debt, Greece is borrowing even more... not printing.
  • #257,608
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:03am Jun 14, 2010 10:03am
Quoting grandpost
Actually I don't need to update you on the past but now we are on AGENDA 21..............Where the environment is more important than human.......So they can move us all in a camp because the land you live on is more valuable or they own it already by

An Educated person is a threat to the environment ....because has higher income....higher consumption.......the world is getting dumb on purpose...
I'll agree with you on that.
  • #257,609
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:04am Jun 14, 2010 10:04am
Quoting grandpost
If you check it out there is a monopoly on everything....even central banks....someone monopolized all G8 countries....ending the ownership at Royal Bank of Canada.......that guy then decided to create a capitalist system.....It has juglar,kondaratieve, business cyclees,,,,then you split them in recuperation , innovation, crisis cycles.....Yes in finance it is called crisis cycle...........

Please watch The Power of Nightmares......
one way to think about it. currency = labor

banks in ez are broke. the governments are baking the banks. so they guarantee the bad bank debt. the bad bank debt is the money that the banks loaned the governments. a shell game. so the ecb says it will back up the governments. another shell game.. so they print more currency as the labor availability demand goes down. unemployment up.. = less labor needed + added currency dilutes the labor and currency more. = disaster.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #257,610
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:04am Jun 14, 2010 10:04am
beautiful move - but too early - end of bullish move structures are to be observed there...

1.2298 area was not my big ideal station point
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  • #257,611
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:05am Jun 14, 2010 10:05am
Quoting Intensity
Lots of stop losses were hit. Thank God I stopped trading 1 hour ago.
Likely more to come. 2251 is a bounce region, though...so playing it safe here.
  • #257,612
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:06am Jun 14, 2010 10:06am
Quoting TheWalrus
This is retarded. You need to understand economics a little bit more before making these doomsday quotes. First off, the USA can print its own money. Unlike Europe. That means in a worst case scenario of the USA not being able to pay debt, we can print trillions of dollars and deflate the currency. Europe cannot. Greece has to borrow money like third world nations and pay back an interest rate. So does France. We have an advantage right there.

Secondly, and most importantly, the dollar is the worlds currency reserve. China and Japan have trillions...
Good post
  • #257,613
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:06am Jun 14, 2010 10:06am
Quoting Intensity
Lots of stop losses were hit. Thank God I stopped trading 1 hour ago.
yep. everything was overextended which is why I was looking for shorts.
  • #257,614
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:06am Jun 14, 2010 10:06am
I'm not shorting again until I see us go south of about 2240ish. Want to see a solid 2250 break.
Only expectation matters . . .
  • #257,615
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:07am Jun 14, 2010 10:07am
Quoting Jhig
You can't expect the US to continue to "print" it's own fortunes? In the real world, it doesn't work that way. As the US continues to print USD it devalues the USD ... so now you have a world holding useless money in their reserves.
I'm saying the U.S. *can* do that. They aren't. They are going into debt by printing treausury bills that Asian nations are eating up, feeding our appetitie for more spending. We have low inflation because we aren't just printing money out. If the world economy collapses and we can't fund our budget with purchasers of t-bills, our only choice will be to deflate the dollar or cut spending by trillions.

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So why is it far fetched for a war to break out against the US? Wars have been started for a whole lot less.

Because not a single country can compete with our military. Because our NAVY is bigger than the next 13 countries combined, 11 of which are our allies in NATO. Because going to war with a juggernaut is retarded. Going to war with the USA only guarantees one of two things: a sudden and devastating loss for the aggressor, or a nuclear war that destroys the planet. MAD, mutually assured destruction. We have nukes all over the world. If a country was attacking us, we would use them. If they were using nukes on us, we would use them back.

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When the US reaches it "Armageddon" or economic collapse because of its own stupidity of devaluing the country, what makes you think some country doesn't see it as a perfect time to attack. Not saying this will happen, this is a worst case scenario.

The Soviet Union collapsed, did anyone attack it? No, because it has nukes and a large military.
  • #257,616
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:08am Jun 14, 2010 10:08am
Well crap, that was quick. Bounce bounce bounce.
Only expectation matters . . .
  • #257,617
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:08am Jun 14, 2010 10:08am
This locomotive may be losing steam.

Thoughts?
.:"If you do square work, you do not cut corners":.
  • #257,618
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:08am Jun 14, 2010 10:08am
Another reason could be is that wave c=.786 of wave a ......a very common market turn....but it isnt so slight correction only........

any how wave 3 extension has a correction and that was it .....now up for more 3.....

light blue is a wave .....dark is b wave .....now we are up on c wave.....
Quoting Jhig
Price found resistance. Reason for the retrace.
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  • #257,619
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:08am Jun 14, 2010 10:08am
Ask and ye shall receive.



Quoting RebelRed
I'm not shorting again until I see us go south of about 2240ish. Want to see a solid 2250 break.
.:"If you do square work, you do not cut corners":.
  • #257,620
  • Jun 14, 2010 10:09am Jun 14, 2010 10:09am
Now looking for 2213. We'll see...2240 needs to a break and hold....
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