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  • #252,281
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:35pm Jun 3, 2010 1:35pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Tell you more, - all those lazy punks out there still a live only because of the Israel.. Perhaps tomorrow Israel left the Country and leave Palestine
all the territory, Whole land will wasted and become a desert in just few month. Without enemy those people will have no target, but they
cannot do anything else other then blowup themselves in public..
It's like Arab Terrorist Federation of Palestine running by Hamas , that's all it is. IMHO
to win in forex you have to stand out of the herd....arm yourself with knowledge.....

Please watch "The Power of Nightmares" I think it was made by BBC.....

Arabs are not terrorists....and hamas and all other Palistenian movements are trying to free their country or at least live with minimum human rights....i am against them using force......but someone killing himself is sad.....
  • #252,282
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:36pm Jun 3, 2010 1:36pm
Quoting gatorinla
just a thought
Looking this as possible camel , may go to 1.22 before the breakout .
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  • #252,283
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:36pm Jun 3, 2010 1:36pm
Quoting ripcord
Ah, so you've got my whole trading history summed up nicely, eh? I've been trading for 15 years and have witnessed plenty of news events. However, my question wasn't regarding trading the news, it was why you would hedge instantly. Taking simultaneous positions long and short is no different than being flat. I'm still not seeing the benefit, news or not.
To me, hedging is really like insurance. The earlier you buy it, the better cuz you never know what tomorrow (or in our Forex trading, the next timeframe) can bring. So I guess that's a rationale for Instand Hedging as soon as you enter a position.

It does flat out a position on an aggregate basis but you can control the degree of the flattening by the amount of hedging and also the duration of the hedging. So overall, hedging does reduce your profit by the cost of the hedge but you also get protected and even profit when the trade goes againstyou.

Just my 2 cents
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  • #252,284
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:38pm Jun 3, 2010 1:38pm
Quoting T@rantula
Ok some benefits from hedging the news...here

http://www.aboutcurrency.com/univers...tratgies.shtml

Cheers!
So tell me, how is being both long and short the same pair a benefit over being flat? As far as I can tell, exiting a position (closing one side of the hedge) is no easier than entering a new one.
  • #252,285
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:38pm Jun 3, 2010 1:38pm
Quoting Forexia
Guys, I just started a new thread called "Current News" in the "Member's Lounge". Feel free to take your debate on any current news or post any news over there.

Would be nice if we can confine our discussions on EUR/USD only on this thread.

Thank you
Arabs are TERRORISING the Eur/Usd.....which is means of food for everyone....lol
  • #252,286
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:38pm Jun 3, 2010 1:38pm
Quoting Atlast
This is a risky trade, though I can't see the sell off completing today, so I am buying the market at this level.
Yeah, If Job numbers blow up expectations tomorrow, EUR will have a

Temp run 1.23+? Then still, it has no way to go but down, for now..
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  • #252,287
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:40pm Jun 3, 2010 1:40pm
I am bored price bounced off the top of the 5 min channel
really should take it off the bottom in an up channel
but it op trend

cheers

teb
  • #252,288
  • Edited 1:48pm Jun 3, 2010 1:43pm | Edited 1:48pm
ok

eur/usd

mixed with news? which has nothing to do with this thread

the rules of a soldier out line that the soldiers did their duty on that boat and defended themselves, as is the code of a soldier.

shouldn't mess with soldiers - they have guns.


however this is a currencies forum
and yes everyone has the right of speech but, its no good here, just a waste of breath

the world would be a better place once men stop fighting for land money vengence and hate, this has nothing to do with god, just man and his foolish nature.

So gentlemen, business as usual

today was a good sell for the eur/usd

unlike yesterday

I have the Eur/Cad in my sights now does look like a good sell
so have decided to sell it
  • #252,289
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:43pm Jun 3, 2010 1:43pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Yeah, If Job numbers blow up expectations tomorrow, EUR will have a

Temp run 1.23+? Then still, it has no way to go but down, for now..
Have a look at the number of down monthly candles, time is on the side of a reversal, probably slow, but who knows, like you say tomorrow could bring a rapid move to blow out the short holders.
  • #252,290
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:43pm Jun 3, 2010 1:43pm
I'm going long here.
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  • #252,291
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:44pm Jun 3, 2010 1:44pm
Quoting T@rantula
Ok some benefits from hedging the news...here

http://www.aboutcurrency.com/univers...tratgies.shtml

Cheers!
One thing I would like to know, has any of you hedged the news using SPOT options like "Double-No-Touch", "Digital_SPOT" and etc.

Here is a link from Investopedia that talks about it: http://www.investopedia.com/articles.../04/101304.asp

I don't know where I can purchase these options as my broker doesn't even offer them. They seem to be good but not sure how effective they are irl.

Feel free to post your experience with them if you have ever traded them.
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  • #252,292
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:45pm Jun 3, 2010 1:45pm
Quoting 4xjunkie
If you really get bored and want something to do here is a link to the live feed form the robots working on the oil well

http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/spill_cam/
As an engineer I feel for those guys that need to solve this disaster.

Thanks for this link, I am watching the live feed.......and meanwhile making pips on a long EU from 1.2179
  • #252,293
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:53pm Jun 3, 2010 1:53pm
Quoting ripcord
So tell me, how is being both long and short the same pair a benefit over being flat? As far as I can tell, exiting a position (closing one side of the hedge) is no easier than entering a new one.
Dont u really see the benefits of hedging the news? In above mentioned article there was clearly stated a benefit of hedging...

In my experience I have had more success in news trading then losses.
If u profit from 1 open position and close the trade at 20 % of retracement, u can always profit from a RETRACE as that particular retracement can become a profit.

U said U have been trading for 15 years... Have u ever noticed a move of 100 pips instantly then retrace for 200 pips...It has happened many times..Even experienced traders would lose on that trade by adding to a existing PROFITABLE position and then it starts to retrace and they lose it by adding again.

News trading is extremely dangerous and by hedging u can always cut the loses and make a profit on a retrace
  • #252,294
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:54pm Jun 3, 2010 1:54pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Yeah, If Job numbers blow up expectations tomorrow, EUR will have a

Temp run 1.23+? Then still, it has no way to go but down, for now..
Do you guys think the Central Bank would intervene by buying EUR to prop it up if EUR starts dropping too much due to a good NFP number tomorrow? They intervened before.

Since USD will go up so much, it would be easy for them to do the intervention, no?

What do you guys think?
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  • #252,295
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:57pm Jun 3, 2010 1:57pm
Quoting Atlast
Have a look at the number of down monthly candles, time is on the side of a reversal, probably slow, but who knows, like you say tomorrow could bring a rapid move to blow out the short holders.

Guys

some times we forget we are trading real money
from really nations

the big boys can play with the hour charts and below 5 and 15 min
ie. last night. Just a silly run up for no good reason.

but not the monthly candles.

Time had nothing to do with it, its what is going on in the nations.
the euro could be gone!!
I am not saying it will but it could .

The down trend will not end until europe is fixed or the usd is worse
them are the facts

cheers

TEB
  • #252,296
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:57pm Jun 3, 2010 1:57pm
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  • #252,297
  • Jun 3, 2010 1:57pm Jun 3, 2010 1:57pm
Quoting Forexia
One thing I would like to know, has any of you hedged the news using SPOT options like "Double-No-Touch", "Digital_SPOT" and etc.

Here is a link from Investopedia that talks about it: http://www.investopedia.com/articles.../04/101304.asp

I don't know where I can purchase these options as my broker doesn't even offer them. They seem to be good but not sure how effective they are irl.

Feel free to post your experience with them if you have ever traded them.
I have never traded it sorry...

Btw Crazy Cat from FPA is an expert news trader. U can really benefit from his advices also.
  • #252,298
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:01pm Jun 3, 2010 2:01pm
Quoting Phonetic
gator, am I right to think that is a "bear" flag, so higher probability to break to the downside?
yeah. but a bear wedge would describe it better .... its tiny compared to the other bull wedge posted. yellow T line plus wedge being built just before shows a probable lower bounce.. giving the trend is lower.. it could be a good one.. but the bigger bull wedge is still in play.. i did move the upper tl because we went a few pips higher then the original one. i also went to a 30m
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  • #252,299
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:02pm Jun 3, 2010 2:02pm
Quoting T@rantula
Dont u really see the benefits of hedging the news? In above mentioned article there was clearly stated a benefit of hedging...

In my experience I have had more success in news trading then losses.
If u profit from 1 open position and close the trade at 20 % of retracement, u can always profit from a RETRACE as that particular retracement can becomes a profit.

U said U have been trading for 15 years... Have u ever noticed a move of 100 pips instantly then retrace for 200 pips...It has happened many times..Even experienced traders would lose...
We're not on the same page here...I'm simply questioning the logic of hedging over being flat. It has nothing to do with news and rapid market movements.
  • #252,300
  • Jun 3, 2010 2:04pm Jun 3, 2010 2:04pm
Quoting TEB63
I am bored price bounced off the top of the 5 min channel
really should take it off the bottom in an up channel
but it op trend

cheers

teb

Lol
10 pips closed off the bottom bounce

TEB
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