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  • #251,181
  • Edited 3:15pm Jun 1, 2010 3:14pm | Edited 3:15pm
Hey Donnie, the one I got, I hope it helps too.



Red.

ps- I got it set 480 H
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  • #251,182
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:17pm Jun 1, 2010 3:17pm
Quoting uraceulose
do u have an opinion on this? either way, Im just curious..i just don't see new money coming in to invest in in us blue chips but wasn't really thinking from the perspective of Canada and outside influence. i figured es back down 850 area first
Canada already is probably in a housing bubble. They have to raise.. It may force u.s. to raise.. just speculation.. we still got the china wild card..
u.s. took most of the pain early on.. so u.s. may be less effected then the others.. if so markets may go up as usd gains.. too many variables.. one thing is sure.. bad economic times always ends in war.. take your pick nato fighting nato.. china gets a new government. N/S korea.. iran...

it will be nice to see Germany taken market share from china with better products. a lower euro can do that.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #251,183
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:17pm Jun 1, 2010 3:17pm
Quoting TEB63
cool so what has been happening

just got in
looks like a bull trap anyone trapped on the wrong side?
hope not

I sold lot the 00 and the 50
I am still negative but not by much

cheers

teb
Hahah its a DEAD CAT BOUNCE mate
  • #251,184
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:18pm Jun 1, 2010 3:18pm
not a good sign.......

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37453846
  • #251,185
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:21pm Jun 1, 2010 3:21pm
i suppose it just needs to break a little lower at 1.2231 before we can go to 1.2120.

not exactly sure now what to do, im gonna wait i suppose
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  • #251,186
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:21pm Jun 1, 2010 3:21pm
Quoting DMA Trader
Also Australia and Canada are benefiting from China growth should be hit soon. I don't predict that since they are my fav places. But there are some bubble in housing and mining there. Look at Sydney real estate.
We're already getting hit, many just don't realise it.
  • #251,187
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:23pm Jun 1, 2010 3:23pm
Guys, any idea about Israel issue effect on the market ?
  • #251,188
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:25pm Jun 1, 2010 3:25pm
Quoting DMA Trader
I can't speak for 18 months. It's beyond me. but Markets tell us that they are afraid of Europe dragging down the global economy.

So 1400 (40% from here).

Banking sector is sick in Europe
Basic material is vulnerable since China is slowing.

So what is going to lead the rally to 1400 ?

Also Australia and Canada are benefiting from China growth should be hit soon. I don't predict that since they are my fav places. But there are some bubble in housing and mining there. Look at Sydney real estate.

So I really doubt 1400 now.
If things change...
U.S. market can go down to 3500 and it may still be better then the others.. unlikely with all the new bills floating around.. deflation could be a reality in japan and ez.. that would be a kick in the teeth..
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  • #251,189
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:29pm Jun 1, 2010 3:29pm
Closed short from 1.2273 @ 1.2237. Done for the day
  • #251,190
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:29pm Jun 1, 2010 3:29pm
when people write "usd bills floating around' and "usd printing money", it seems antiquted and inaccurate. Everything is digital and instant. The government can manipulate numbers in an instant. So my question to everyone is, can they make US dollars dissappear (out of the markets) just as fast as they pump them in? It truly is a shell game....where have I heard that before?
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
  • #251,191
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:36pm Jun 1, 2010 3:36pm
Quoting Duce
when people write "usd bills floating around' and "usd printing money", it seems antiquted and inaccurate. Everything is digital and instant. The government can manipulate numbers in an instant. So my question to everyone is, can they make US dollars dissappear (out of the markets) just as fast as they pump them in? It truly is a shell game....where have I heard that before?
If you are talking about the recent barrier around 1.21, the ECB and the FED are defending it with swaps.

This morning a couple of billions of euros got sucked and are at the FED while the ECB flooded the market with dollars borrowed from the FED.

Off course it is all in the digital realm....more like virtual money than anything around facebook.
  • #251,192
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:39pm Jun 1, 2010 3:39pm
Quoting Mr J
We're already getting hit, many just don't realise it.
can you elaborate please
Rule No.1: Never lose money. Rule No.2: Market is always right !
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  • #251,193
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:42pm Jun 1, 2010 3:42pm
Quoting gatorinla
U.S. market can go down to 3500 and it may still be better then the others.. unlikely with all the new bills floating around.. deflation could be a reality in japan and ez.. that would be a kick in the teeth..
I agree with that.
I'm just amazed about the decoupling theory explained again at CNBC
Decouple from Europe.
When did I hear the decoupling theory ?

Oh yes. It was 2008. All the world should have decouple from US. Especially China . We all know how that ended.

But I agree with the US market being better than anywhere else.
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  • #251,194
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:46pm Jun 1, 2010 3:46pm
Sentiment was weak until the European mid-morning, but turned around to leave most markets only modestly changed. Weaker China PMI data, the geopolitical incident involving Israel, and European downgrade rumours kept a lid on appetite until better US data perked up the market. The S&P500 is currently down 0.8%, having opened weaker, rebounded, and weakening again as we write.
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  • #251,195
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:47pm Jun 1, 2010 3:47pm
Quoting DMA Trader
I agree with that.
I'm just amazed about the decoupling theory explained again at CNBC
Decouple from Europe.
When did I hear the decoupling theory ?

Oh yes. It was 2008. All the world should have decouple from US. Especially China . We all know how that ended.

But I agree with the US market being better than anywhere else.
strong usd and deflation in ez... hey maybe a french villa is in the cards. is a villa the same as a tickler? *L*
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #251,196
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:54pm Jun 1, 2010 3:54pm
Quoting DMA Trader
can you elaborate please
Currency and stocks have already taken a reasonable hit, at about 12% and 15% respectively. I'm not informed about the housing market. It seems that many areas have stalled or dropped, and that an overall correction has only not yet happened due to heavy subsidy. That's just a guess though. It will only get worse with time.
  • #251,197
  • Jun 1, 2010 3:56pm Jun 1, 2010 3:56pm
Quoting Alk34
So Bloomberg.com says, dow down for some worries about mideast :S interesting...
The media always needs some sort of end-of-day explanation. It's very reguarly worth a good laugh - "market drops as German PM farts" rather than "continuing period of risk aversion".
  • #251,198
  • Jun 1, 2010 4:03pm Jun 1, 2010 4:03pm
Quoting Mr J
The media always needs some sort of end-of-day explanation. It's very reguarly worth a good laugh - "market drops as German PM farts" rather than "continuing period of risk aversion".

You are right Mr J, so i am in Istanbul and no news about it on the TV
  • #251,199
  • Jun 1, 2010 4:03pm Jun 1, 2010 4:03pm
NEW YORK (AP) -- The dollar surged to a fresh four-year high against the euro Tuesday as worries that European banks could still face large loan losses next year added to concerns about the continent's economic outlook.
The dollar also climbed against the Canadian dollar after the Bank of Canada increased its key interest rate, the first Group of Seven nation to do so since the global financial crisis.
The euro sank to $1.2112 in early trading Tuesday, its lowest point since it traded at $1.2029 in April 2006. It later pulled back up to 1.2253, below the $1.2305 it bought a day earlier.
The European Central Bank said late Monday that although it estimates that potential loan write-downs for the continent's bank system will peak this year, "it is probable that loan losses will remain considerable in 2011 as well."
The euro has dropped about 15 percent against the dollar this year as traders take a dimmer view of Europe's prospects and the strangling effect of deep government spending cuts. Indebted European countries are cutting spending to get their budgets back in line with European Union mandates.
Markets were also jittery after a report from China showed manufacturing there slowed in May, underlining fears that Asian manufacturers and exporters remain vulnerable to waning of demand in Europe and elsewhere.
"No currency seems unaffected by the rise of risk aversion," Brown Brothers Harriman currency analysts wrote in a note to investors.
The dollar gave back some of its gains after reports on construction spending and manufacturing showed signs the U.S. economic recovery is gaining strength. The dollar is a traditional safe haven for investors.
The British pound jumped to $1.4658 from $1.4545, while the dollar edged up to 91.24 Japanese yen from 91.07 yen.
The Bank of Canada increased its key interest rate by a quarter point, but said any further increases would depend on global economic conditions. The dollar rose to 1.0505 Canadian dollars from 1.0457 Canadian dollars.
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  • #251,200
  • Jun 1, 2010 4:04pm Jun 1, 2010 4:04pm
Quoting Mr J
The media always needs some sort of end-of-day explanation. It's very reguarly worth a good laugh - "market drops as German PM farts" rather than "continuing period of risk aversion".


are u talking about palestine bro
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