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  • #248,181
  • May 26, 2010 2:31pm May 26, 2010 2:31pm
Quoting gatorinla
well we got 2 things going for longer term shorts. gietner is in Europe teaching them how to run a press. also china may cash out of euros and stop buying European bonds. .5 could be in the picture.. if china dumps euros..

turning on the presses will force china...

can Europe fix this overnight? nope... will others hold euros as it drops while they fix it? nope!!!

it will take years and euro is on life support.. if china dumps... will Germany keep holding the bag as Germany's standard of living shrinks.
[color=Red][b][i][u]IF it will...
2177......2133... [quote]also china may cash out of euros and stop buying European bonds. ./QUOTE]...tick tock

I forgot Geithner was over there... What if the swiss unload some? Or will they hang on till the end no matter what?
  • #248,182
  • May 26, 2010 2:32pm May 26, 2010 2:32pm
ecb buying?? this should have plunged by now... im out
  • #248,183
  • May 26, 2010 2:34pm May 26, 2010 2:34pm
Quoting gatorinla
well we got 2 things going for longer term shorts. gietner is in Europe teaching them how to run a press. also china may cash out of euros and stop buying European bonds. .5 could be in the picture.. if china dumps euros..

turning on the presses will force china...

can Europe fix this overnight? nope... will others hold euros as it drops while they fix it? nope!!!

it will take years and euro is on life support.. if china dumps... will Germany keep holding the bag as Germany's standard of living shrinks.
[color=Red][b][i][u]IF it...
I think china has been dumping since december....selling euros and euro bonds for gold and usd and us treasuries.
  • #248,184
  • May 26, 2010 2:37pm May 26, 2010 2:37pm
[quote=uraceulose;3755921]2177......2133...
Quote
also china may cash out of euros and stop buying European bonds. ./QUOTE]...tick tock

I forgot Geithner was over there... What if the swiss unload some? Or will they hang on till the end no matter what?

it dont matter.. hold them and they are screwed.. sell them and they are screwed.. swiss have the same social cost.. uk is in bad shape also.. there is talk about bb not doing many currency swaps.. so if this is true u.s. is not subsidizing euro as it has done in the past. it also means u.s. will allow euro to slide further.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #248,185
  • May 26, 2010 2:38pm May 26, 2010 2:38pm
could be headed for for the major psyc of 1.20. people have been talking about that for awhile now.
  • #248,186
  • May 26, 2010 2:39pm May 26, 2010 2:39pm
[quote=gatorinla;3755936]
Quoting uraceulose
2177......2133...

it dont matter.. hold them and they are screwed.. sell them and they are screwed.. swiss have the same social cost.. uk is in bad shape also.. there is talk about bb not doing many currency swaps.. so if this is true u.s. is not subsidizing euro as it has done in the past. it also means u.s. will allow euro to slide further.
Sell them into the shortsqeeuzzze lol..
  • #248,187
  • May 26, 2010 2:39pm May 26, 2010 2:39pm
Quoting mfoste1
I think china has been dumping since december....selling euros and euro bonds for gold and usd and us treasuries.
i have no idea.. but saying it in public is different then hiding it.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #248,188
  • May 26, 2010 2:39pm May 26, 2010 2:39pm
Quoting mfoste1
I think china has been dumping since december....selling euros and euro bonds for gold and usd and us treasuries.
China selling US Debt and diversifying away from USD, while it's high..

What EUR they have very little EZ debt compare to load of US paper..

Buy low Sell high, that's what China doing..

P.S China didn't sell any US debt at 1.60

same goes for EUR at 1.10/1.20.
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  • #248,189
  • May 26, 2010 2:40pm May 26, 2010 2:40pm
Thanks man. I read that about bb stopping the foreign swaps on reuters...don't know if it's true but great if it is..

Maybe Grayson is getting through to someone somewhere on something..

You see the latest vid on the extra 130 billion for the war?
  • #248,190
  • May 26, 2010 2:41pm May 26, 2010 2:41pm
US is really trying to keep this thing above 10,000
  • #248,191
  • May 26, 2010 2:44pm May 26, 2010 2:44pm
Sorry if it is the stupidest question ever asked, but how does the intervention work?

Do the Centralbanks have their own traders that buy/sell or do they give it to the countries own ibs or something to work it out to them?
  • #248,192
  • May 26, 2010 2:45pm May 26, 2010 2:45pm
Quoting uraceulose
Thanks man. I read that about bb stopping the foreign swaps on reuters...don't know if it's true but great if it is..

Maybe Grayson is getting through to someone somewhere on something..

You see the latest vid on the extra 130 billion for the war?
man we will pay for that hundreds of years.. we paid off the Spanish american war about 4 years ago.. 100 years after it was fought. fought with horses and mules. and it still took 100 years to pay off..

give me the addy..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #248,193
  • May 26, 2010 2:45pm May 26, 2010 2:45pm
You guys may have seen.... bad german auction?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...-close-failure
  • #248,194
  • May 26, 2010 2:47pm May 26, 2010 2:47pm
Quoting Carnegie
Sorry if it is the stupidest question ever asked, but how does the intervention work?

Do the Centralbanks have their own traders that buy/sell or do they give it to the countries own ibs or something to work it out to them?
It's more or less just an electronic transfer from say buying yen with dollars. There would in turn be "less" yen in circulation, this would bring the value of the yen up to due supply/demand and dollar down in theory.
The only difference with intervention from a normal trade is that the amount put on a single trade can be an insane amount(these guys don't have to worry about losing their account because it's not their money their intervening with)
  • #248,195
  • May 26, 2010 2:47pm May 26, 2010 2:47pm
Quoting gatorinla
man we will pay for that hundreds of years.. we paid off the Spanish american war about 4 years ago.. 100 years after it was fought. fought with horses and mules. and it still took 100 years to pay off..

give me the addy..
one sec, i'll edit this post

EDIT: here it is. 5 mins
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  • #248,196
  • May 26, 2010 2:47pm May 26, 2010 2:47pm
Quoting sed34
US is really trying to keep this thing above 10,000
yeah, the other big secret.. wait till fed is audited and we find out they were buying stocks.. free trade my ass..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #248,197
  • May 26, 2010 2:49pm May 26, 2010 2:49pm
Quoting kingdisco
You guys may have seen.... bad german auction?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...-close-failure
they cant fail.. ecb is buying the left overs...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #248,198
  • May 26, 2010 2:50pm May 26, 2010 2:50pm
they got 10 minutes to get this thing above 10,000. imma smoke a ciggy
  • #248,199
  • May 26, 2010 2:54pm May 26, 2010 2:54pm
they will succeed.. as allways. self fulfilling prophecy
  • #248,200
  • May 26, 2010 2:57pm May 26, 2010 2:57pm
Quoting TudorJonesJR
they will succeed.. as allways. self fulfilling prophecy
maybe not this time..
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