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  • #240,641
  • May 11, 2010 9:34pm May 11, 2010 9:34pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Sure there is. It's called stocking up on: mre's, water, batteries, and ammo.
Don't forget a small, secluded, self-sustaining rural property with a strong structure.
  • #240,642
  • May 11, 2010 9:37pm May 11, 2010 9:37pm
Quoting jest1081
ww3 ?
it appears to me you guys are betting that the whole financial system will crumble...

if thats the route, you know what to do.
LOL. I hope it doesn't come to that. But personally, I think things are going to get a bit too real - on a global scale - pretty rapidly. What will be interesting to see is what happens to those that precipitated the problems when it truly hits the fan. Sheep are slow. But eventually, they will figure it out - when it's in their faces and they can't turn a blind eye any longer. Sheep are slow - but they can also only be pushed so far.....but maybe I'm giving the sheep too much credit.
  • #240,643
  • May 11, 2010 9:37pm May 11, 2010 9:37pm
good morning Richlady!

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LOL. I hope it doesn't come to that. But personally, I think things are going to get a bit too real - on a global scale - pretty rapidly. What will be interesting to see is what happens to those that precipitated the problems when it truly hits the fan. Sheep are slow. But eventually, they will figure it out - when it's in their faces and they can't turn a blind eye any longer. Sheep are slow - but they can also only be pushed so far.....but maybe I'm giving the sheep too much credit.

faith is important. previous lessons have been learnt, but of course we are contstantly facing new problems. its okay to scrutinize the underlying issues, but also discuss what are the options available for us to save the situation.

we've heard this talk when US got into trouble, granted the issues are different but lets not kid ourselves when US sneeze the world catches a cold. Who did not expect this europe blunder? We want solutions, we've seen the data so no point harping abt what has happened.

crashes are not pretty, lives will be lost, families will breakdown, war, lots of blood will spill...have some faith
  • #240,644
  • May 11, 2010 9:41pm May 11, 2010 9:41pm
It's now time to sell Eur, HSI seems to be down ==> Euro will down if ECB will do nothing. SHORT 1.2647!
  • #240,645
  • May 11, 2010 9:43pm May 11, 2010 9:43pm
Quoting Redeemed1
So, who wants a HIGHER Euro besides The FED and major USA companies like Catepillar and Coke that do more business in Europe?
does it matter? usa has to sell bonds (print money) to fund imf.. those monitory swaps are not free either.. We spend hundreds of billions to keep tens of billions moving in exports.. oil was 23 bucks a barrel early in 2001.. we brought it up to 147 by devaluing usd. we paid people who dont like us more money so they could fight us with more money. so out of the 600 billion we paid in 2008 for foreign oil..600% more then 2000.. it may be easier and much cheaper to write coke and cat a check. instead of the u.s. citizen bank rolling their exports each time they fill the tank. add in some grunt blood to that figure.. you cant subsidize prosperity you build a product others need. you don't remain strong giving thousands of dollars away so some selected few can make a single dollar.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #240,646
  • May 11, 2010 9:49pm May 11, 2010 9:49pm
counting on my finger time there was not a war some where.. its always been and always will be, till we kill the last standing.

i told you nato will fight nato..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #240,647
  • May 11, 2010 9:50pm May 11, 2010 9:50pm
These little bull spikes followed by price sort of "floating down" on the 1m chart over the last couple hours since making the LOD are a little weird...

ADD: I've been getting stopped out after scaling out each time and then reloading, but I'm sitting this one out. Iguess I'm still wondering of this thing is gonna make a run for the DP or not.


Kinda hinky PA.... I might just leave a limit sell up a'rd the DP and go to bed early...
FUBAR...
  • #240,648
  • May 11, 2010 9:54pm May 11, 2010 9:54pm
Quoting ak4x
These little bull spikes followed by price soprt of "floating down" on the 1m chart over the last couple hours are a little weird...
I think there is a good chance that wednesday, thursday sees the euro back above 1.30. Low for today will probably be 1.2588 and a high on the dollar index of 85.075 (June Futures price). Long term I am a bear but i just wonder if there will be another short squeeze. If it goes below 1.2588 then I will continue to be bearish on this week.
  • #240,649
  • May 11, 2010 9:55pm May 11, 2010 9:55pm
Quoting gatorinla
counting on my finger time there was not a war some where.. its always been and always will be, till we kill the last standing.

i told you nato will fight nato..
well i was merely talking abt an exodus.
of course god will always save america, even when their hands are smeared with blood of the living.
  • #240,650
  • May 11, 2010 9:55pm May 11, 2010 9:55pm
Quoting jest1081
We want solutions
And who is capable of providing an adequate suggestion? And will the public swallow it? The politicians that have some sort of clue and are brave enough to talk out tend not to have a say in policy, and even if they did, it won't be what the public wants to hear. I'm not suggesting Greek politicians are a good example, but just take a look at the reaction to the potential austerity measures.
  • #240,651
  • May 11, 2010 10:00pm May 11, 2010 10:00pm
Quoting Mr J
And who is capable of providing an adequate suggestion? And will the public swallow it? The politicians that have some sort of clue and are brave enough to talk out tend not to have a say in policy, and even if they did, it won't be what the public wants to hear. I'm not suggesting Greek politicians are a good example, but just take a look at the reaction to the potential austerity measures.
exactly, decisions made can be wrong and can be right but it takes time for the market to digest things. you dont just inject person an viola! he's better already! it appears more has to be done to instill confidence into the bailout, thats it. since we're good to talk, obviously we've had the credentials to fill their seats. hehe

look this world where capitalism rules is filled with greedy speculators aiming to make their buck (like me). we've already seen Soros...many more wants to fill his shoes and thats not exactly...noble.
  • #240,652
  • May 11, 2010 10:01pm May 11, 2010 10:01pm
Quoting ak4x
These little bull spikes followed by price sort of "floating down" on the 1m chart over the last couple hours since making the LOD are a little weird...

ADD: I've been getting stopped out after scaling out each time and then reloading, but I'm sitting this one out. Iguess I'm still wondering of this thing is gonna make a run for the DP or not.


Kinda hinky PA.... I might just leave a limit sell up a'rd the DP and go to bed early...
Yeah, I'm staring at the narrowing squeeze of the 5M BBs. I'm looking for a close south of the lower.....and will watch it closely until previous horizontal support is cleared. A break north I'll skip....but I'll look for short entry when I see signs of exhaustion..
  • #240,653
  • May 11, 2010 10:07pm May 11, 2010 10:07pm
Quoting jest1081
well i was merely talking abt an exodus.
of course god will always save america, even when their hands are smeared with blood of the living.
is there one without blood on their hands? hell even the Swiss funded a little blood shed. We all got crs (cant remember shit) disease
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #240,654
  • May 11, 2010 10:18pm May 11, 2010 10:18pm
Quoting jest1081
exactly, decisions made can be wrong and can be right but it takes time for the market to digest things. you dont just inject person an viola! he's better already! it appears more has to be done to instill confidence into the bailout. since we're good to talk, obviously we've had the credentials to fill their seats. hehe

look this world where capitalism rules is filled with greedy speculators aiming to make their buck (like me). we've already seen Soros...many more wants to fill his shoes and thats not exactly...noble.
Almost everyone wants to make their buck, and "greedy" speculators just tend to be the ones to put their money where their mouth is. It may not be noble, but it's no worse than any other job/activity.

The market doesn't need time to digest the bailout. What could the EU possibly do for the market to conclude it is some sort of solution?
  • #240,655
  • Edited 10:31pm May 11, 2010 10:19pm | Edited 10:31pm
Quoting gatorinla
is there one without blood on their hands? hell even the Swiss funded a little blood shed. We all got crs (cant remember shit) disease
and thats how we should continue solving it.

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The market doesn't need time to digest the bailout.

cdo crisis wasnt solved in a day....
how many times did the fed announce fundings? Did it succeed? in my humble opinion the jury is STILL not out yet, the root of this crisis still stems from a single source, of course im not blaming them, it takes two to tango.

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What could the EU possibly do for the market to conclude it is some sort of solution?
i dont know, thats why im waiting,listening and reading. Nope i dont carry the american flag with me so i dont have bragging rights. Human have this innate ability, if they have already concluded a point, no matter what ideas is provided it will still...fail (well in their opinion). my preach?: be open minded and go with the flow of course pray for the best as well.

keep on flipping! lol!
  • #240,656
  • May 11, 2010 10:21pm May 11, 2010 10:21pm
Quoting jest1081
and thats how we should continue solving it.
The only problem I have with it is that those that do both the literal and figurative bleeding are typically the ones that get screwed once it comes time to divide the spoils.
  • #240,657
  • May 11, 2010 10:30pm May 11, 2010 10:30pm
Quoting PriceVolume
The only problem I have with it is that those that do both the literal and figurative bleeding are typically the ones that get screwed once it comes time to divide the spoils.

What are the unanswered questions?
With Angela Merkel’s Party losing majority, it will take a few days if not a few weeks to get the rescue plan through the upper and lower houses of Parliament. We saw how long it took to get to get the Greek bailout plan approved and we can only imagine how long it will take for this plan to be passed.
1. What will be the exact mechanics behind how the Special Purpose Vehicle that will provide the loan guarantees to member states? What are the rules and terms of contribution and aid?
2. How long will it take before the SPV is approved by individual nations?
3. Will Greece accept these terms? Will they amend it?
4. Can all of the Eurozone countries afford to contribute to the plan and will the countries seeking aid be able to handle the tough conditions that may accompany the loans?
5. The IMF supposedly has $268 billion left, where are they getting the rest of the money? Most likely U.S. taxpayers!
6. What is the size and scope of the ECB's bond purchases?
http://www.fx360.com/commentary/kath...uimf-plan.aspx
  • #240,658
  • May 11, 2010 10:41pm May 11, 2010 10:41pm
Quoting jest1081
and thats how we should continue solving it.



cdo crisis wasnt solved in a day....
how many times did the fed announce fundings? Did it succeed? in my humble opinion the jury is STILL not out yet, the root of this crisis still stems from a single source, of course im not blaming them, it takes two to tango.


i dont know, thats why im waiting,listening and reading. Nope i dont carry the american flag with me so i dont have bragging rights. Human have this innate ability, if they have already concluded a point, no matter what ideas is...
hell, even after a European football win. cars are burned rocks are thrown. then some rubber bullets..
not saying i want it. just saying where it points. hard economic times bring the masses to the streets where rocks are thrown..rubber bullets and then tanks are not far fetched.

lots of youngsters w/0 a job.. not that i want it. but its not looking good. in 2008 things were much better then today in Europe. Were closer to the ground.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #240,659
  • May 11, 2010 10:52pm May 11, 2010 10:52pm
Quoting jest1081
and thats how we should continue solving it.



cdo crisis wasnt solved in a day....
how many times did the fed announce fundings? Did it succeed? in my humble opinion the jury is STILL not out yet, the root of this crisis still stems from a single source, of course im not blaming them, it takes two to tango.


i dont know, thats why im waiting,listening and reading. Nope i dont carry the american flag with me so i dont have bragging rights. Human have this innate ability, if they have already concluded a point, no matter what ideas is...
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  • #240,660
  • May 11, 2010 10:53pm May 11, 2010 10:53pm
Quoting jest1081
i dont know, thats why im waiting,listening and reading. Nope i dont carry the american flag with me so i dont have bragging rights. Human have this innate ability, if they have already concluded a point, no matter what ideas is provided it will still...fail (well in their opinion). my preach?: be open minded and go with the flow of course pray for the best as well.
You have too much faith in politicians. My thoughts are grounded in evidence, and that suggests a group of politicians has neither the ability nor backbone to come up with a solution. That goes for the current situation, and in the event of another "GFC". I think change happens slowly, and that politicians are rarely at the forefront.
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