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  • #1,201
  • May 10, 2010 4:39am May 10, 2010 4:39am
Quoting rdwatkins
Onefineday,

This is excellent work! I applaud your efforts to make a less resource intensive approach to executing this trading system. I found that the resource strain on my machine was a bit much and had to reduce the pairs to have any consistency.

I am preparing to test and post results on a weekly basis. Thanks again.
Okay the resource load increases only on the first run since it loads all the indicators for all the pairs and thereafter you would see a considerable drop in resources being consumed because all those indicators are already loaded.

Try giving it some time to run for the first time and see how much time it takes and thereafter on the second run (which should happen after 2.5 minutes by default settings) see how much time it takes. It will make you smile even more
  • #1,202
  • Edited 5:00am May 10, 2010 4:42am | Edited 5:00am
rdwatkins,

thanks man. I got the bug in this one. Adding it to the list and will fix it ASAP.
  • #1,203
  • May 10, 2010 5:10am May 10, 2010 5:10am
Quoting onefineday
Okay the resource load increases only on the first run since it loads all the indicators for all the pairs and thereafter you would see a considerable drop in resources being consumed because all those indicators are already loaded.

Try giving it some time to run for the first time and see how much time it takes and thereafter on the second run (which should happen after 2.5 minutes by default settings) see how much time it takes. It will make you smile even more
I meant that the original method had high resource impact, not yours. My fan hasn't even kicked in yet with your new EA! With all the indicators on the old approach the fan ran 24/7 which was a real drag.
  • #1,204
  • May 10, 2010 5:17am May 10, 2010 5:17am
Onefineday,

Have tried several times to right-click and bring up the /Expert Advisor/Properties Screen to modify the previously mentioned Spread settings. Even after closing the MT4 platform and restarting, I have not be able to get the setting screen to appear. I have had to remove the EA and apply it to change obtain the screen for adjustments.

It may be my platform (FXCM MT4, V.226 updated March 24th). Are there any other variables that might contribute to this? I assume that you compiled on V.226... if not, that may contribute here.
  • #1,205
  • May 10, 2010 5:29am May 10, 2010 5:29am
Quoting rdwatkins
Onefineday,

Have tried several times to right-click and bring up the /Expert Advisor/Properties Screen to modify the previously mentioned Spread settings. Even after closing the MT4 platform and restarting, I have not be able to get the setting screen to appear. I have had to remove the EA and apply it to change obtain the screen for adjustments.

It may be my platform (FXCM MT4, V.226 updated March 24th). Are there any other variables that might contribute to this? I assume that you compiled on V.226... if not, that may contribute here.
Hey that's an issue with me too. If you want to change the settings you would have to unload it and then load it again. I think this is something to do with the EA is running constantly in a loop mode and checking all currencies. My ver is also 226. Not sure will list this too as a bug. The spread thing is almost fixed.. uploading it.
  • #1,206
  • May 10, 2010 6:09am May 10, 2010 6:09am
Hello everyone, I am completely amazed at how you guys have given this system or more accurately, thread a new life. This dashboard is absolutely fantastic!!!! I just loaded it up and i will be setting my charts with all the required indicators on ONE CHART!!!! This is like christmas for me. I liked all the energy put into trying to make a automated system 100% but to me anyway there are too many things you must consider that hard rules for an EA would not be able to execute properly. BUT i loved to see you guys attempting it for yourselves. I have a lot of things planned outside of trading today but i will be testing this dashboard soon and i look forward to posting WITH you guys! AWESOME JOB! ONEFINEDAY!!!

TONY
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,207
  • May 10, 2010 6:16am May 10, 2010 6:16am
Quoting rdwatkins
Onefineday,

Have tried several times to right-click and bring up the /Expert Advisor/Properties Screen to modify the previously mentioned Spread settings. Even after closing the MT4 platform and restarting, I have not be able to get the setting screen to appear. I have had to remove the EA and apply it to change obtain the screen for adjustments.

It may be my platform (FXCM MT4, V.226 updated March 24th). Are there any other variables that might contribute to this? I assume that you compiled on V.226... if not, that may contribute here.
I have the same problem that I think is platform related and not specific for this robot. I have other robots that i have had built for myself that have the same problem.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,208
  • May 10, 2010 6:31am May 10, 2010 6:31am
Quoting tonyb123
I have the same problem that I think is platform related and not specific for this robot. I have other robots that i have had built for myself that have the same problem.
TonyB,

Agreed.

I have no data to support it but, it feels like since upgrading to 226 the resource load handling capacity of MT4 has taken a backward step... ouch! It might be nice to have some monitoring capability once the features are completed in any EA to address the resource loads imposed by the same. A stripped PC with a fresh OS install and no apps in the tray would be nice but, alas I have no reporting feature in the standard XP Pro that will export a resource thread impact spreadsheet correlated to .dll / exe loads.

Does anyone know of a methodology of getting such a load report that relates to EA / Indicator resource load tuning?
  • #1,209
  • May 10, 2010 7:00am May 10, 2010 7:00am
Quoting rdwatkins
...
Does anyone know of a methodology of getting such a load report that relates to EA / Indicator resource load tuning?
ProcessExplorer from http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/s.../bb896653.aspx is a good tool for this. It will report on each process on the PC. Just look for the Terminal program running.
  • #1,210
  • May 10, 2010 7:03am May 10, 2010 7:03am
Onefineday,

Attached is a screen shot of the dashboard and the Alert notifications side by side. I noticed something that I think I need education on.

Notice on the Alert the GBPAUD & CAD have given BUY Trade Direction on the HA @240 min, TF. Now compare to the dashboard which indicates that that the 30 min TF has confirmed a SHORT signal. Am I missing something or is there a divergence in signals between the two interfaces?

Teach me please as I can already tell this is proofing out to be quite an extraordinary tool to use and I want to become adept at it asap
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  • #1,211
  • May 10, 2010 7:31am May 10, 2010 7:31am
Onefineday,

I would like to apply this EA to the GBPJPY pair screen which is also the screen I apply the Multi-purpose Trade Manager by Steve Hopwood. If you can add an extern entry for a MagicNumber, that will enable me to use both EAs on the same pair screen and yet not be in conflict one with another.

References:
- Multi-purpose trade manager.mq4 - Link to Thread [ http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=89371 ]
  • #1,212
  • Edited 7:55am May 10, 2010 7:31am | Edited 7:55am
Quoting rdwatkins
Onefineday,

Attached is a screen shot of the dashboard and the Alert notifications side by side. I noticed something that I think I need education on.

Notice on the Alert the GBPAUD & CAD have given BUY Trade Direction on the HA @240 min, TF. Now compare to the dashboard which indicates that that the 30 min TF has confirmed a SHORT signal. Am I missing something or is there a divergence in signals between the two interfaces?

Teach me please as I can already tell this is proofing out to be quite an extraordinary tool to use and I want to become...
Okay first thing first, I see that you have this EA on the EJ 1H and not on the EJ 30M chart. What time frames are you using ? 4h and 1H ? Also another thing FYI the messages on the screen are for 4H time frames and not for 30M. 30M TF Messages are displayed as alerts or emailed only they are not commented on the screen. Moreover I can see your problem. Perhaps check the MA's they could probably be causing this.

Do me a favor can you please just paste screen shots of the 4H charts for both these symbols on Tonys Template. Actually this method gives different results for different brokers.

EDIT: Do one thing check again it should show you correct results by now. This is because this method acknowledges the HA arrow formation but it also wants the both the SMA's to agree with each other as per Tony method. So the MAs were not aligning together at that time and this is the reason why it was showing your contradictory signals. Moreover HA shoots an email instantly whereas this one runs after every 2.5 minutes. So whenever you see contradictory signals always go back and check whether MAs are also aligning or not, if not there you go thats the reason. If yes, its a bug and please let me know.

If you want me add a SMA filter, let me know will do that too.
  • #1,213
  • May 10, 2010 7:34am May 10, 2010 7:34am
Quoting rdwatkins
Onefineday,

I would like to apply this EA to the GBPJPY pair screen which is also the screen I apply the Multi-purpose Trade Manager by Steve Hopwood. If you can add an extern entry for a MagicNumber, that will enable me to use both EAs on the same pair screen and yet not be in conflict one with another.

References:
- Multi-purpose trade manager.mq4 - Link to Thread [ http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=89371 ]
Why do you need the MagicNumber, this baby wont open orders it is not programmed to. It will just show your alerts ? Im sorry i did not get your logic/question.
  • #1,214
  • May 10, 2010 8:06am May 10, 2010 8:06am
Quoting onefineday
Why do you need the MagicNumber, this baby wont open orders it is not programmed to. It will just show your alerts ? Im sorry i did not get your logic/question.
Wath i understand is that we get on the screen shown when all the conditions are met on the 4H chart is that so?

because i get some signal on the screen and when i chek the chart manualy the allert is not in place i mean not all the condtions are met.

very nice work.

Thanks.

Greet you,
Yoenes
  • #1,215
  • May 10, 2010 8:15am May 10, 2010 8:15am
Quoting Yoenes
Wath i understand is that we get on the screen shown when all the conditions are met on the 4H chart is that so?

because i get some signal on the screen and when i chek the chart manualy the allert is not in place i mean not all the condtions are met.

very nice work.

Thanks.

Greet you,
Yoenes
Yoenes,

Can you please let me know an example of the same ? As far as I am aware I had fully tested the 4H part but if there is a bug I would like to work on it and squash it ASAP.
  • #1,216
  • May 10, 2010 8:33am May 10, 2010 8:33am
Quoting onefineday
Okay first thing first, I see that you have this EA on the EJ 1H and not on the EJ 30M chart. What time frames are you using ? 4h and 1H ? Also another thing FYI the messages on the screen are for 4H time frames and not for 30M. 30M TF Messages are displayed as alerts or emailed only they are not commented on the screen. Moreover I can see your problem. Perhaps check the MA's they could probably be causing this.

Do me a favor can you please just paste screen shots of the 4H charts for both these symbols on Tonys Template. Actually this method gives...
Onefineday,

Ah, I understand separate purposes now on Alerts vs. Dashboard.

As for screen shots, I am using screens other than Tony's to time the micro level entries comparing 5M MAs and Tick Data MAs to seek "zero risk" entries. Still working on that one Will update you when I find the approach that works best.

Still semi-auto (scan & signal) is a great way to trade. I agree with you completely that the human capacity to reason entry and exits will likely always surpass dumb machines.
  • #1,217
  • May 10, 2010 8:35am May 10, 2010 8:35am
Quoting onefineday
Yoenes,

Can you please let me know an example of the same ? As far as I am aware I had fully tested the 4H part but if there is a bug I would like to work on it and squash it ASAP.
Hello
Its my mistake i saw some thing wrong i will give it a good try for this week and will let you no if every thing is oke.
I like this strategie and I like your work
Excus me again
Thanks
Greet you,
Yoenes
  • #1,218
  • May 10, 2010 8:46am May 10, 2010 8:46am
Quoting onefineday
Why do you need the MagicNumber, this baby wont open orders it is not programmed to. It will just show your alerts ? Im sorry i did not get your logic/question.
I saw some odd behavior in my other EA and assumed it was a conflict between them. Sometimes my logic escapes me as well Seems everything is logical until I stop talking to myself and let others hear what I am thinking lol
  • #1,219
  • Edited 10:01am May 10, 2010 8:54am | Edited 10:01am
Quoting rdwatkins
I saw some odd behavior in my other EA and assumed it was a conflict between them. Sometimes my logic escapes me as well Seems everything is logical until I stop talking to myself and let others hear what I am thinking lol
hey i am making an EA for trend analysis on this one just a basic thing. You can run it on all pairs just to get to know the most trending pairs.

If you look at Tonys method. He decides the direction on the 4H by basically looking at HA arrows and AO for confirmation (just basic). Therefore, I am designing a crude EA with just basic functionality to buy/sell on 4H bar opens just to get an idea of how it works on different pairs. This will definitely let us know the best and the worst trending pairs for this strategy.

What say ?

wait up, will upload that in the next 30 mins or so. I will try my level best to teach this bot to take automated entries too... so that ways we dont skip a beat .

EDIT: here goes...
/* This is a crude test EA and in now way is fit for Live or even Demo
trading. I will not support this EA. You can use this EA to run tests
to determine which pairs are favorable on the 4H with Tony's System.
Also I do not know if this works on 5 digit brokers or not. I just designed
this one to help me know the best/worst pairs with this strategy. */

TIP: I have not built in any TP/SL feature in this one because I just want to know the best/worst pairs for this strategy for my broker. Do not waste your time building in fancy SL features and all in this EA because this is not its purpose. It is no match for you discretionary trading abilities.

IMPORTANT: The back testing with this EA is extremely resource intensive so do take a note of that before getting ready to do some tests. Best, put it on your spare machine or VPS if you have one.

All The Best,
OFD
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File Type: mq4 HA T3-1_Crude_Test.mq4   4 KB | 304 downloads
  • #1,220
  • May 10, 2010 9:55am May 10, 2010 9:55am
Onefineday,

Thanks for this EA. I'm a little confused. Do we add the HA T3-1 template to the 30 minute chart and then add the EA to it? Also, we only need to add this to 1 pair and it will check the rest automatically? and do we need to have the rest of the pairs up also with the templates? Thanks again

Paul
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