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  • #237,121
  • May 5, 2010 9:04pm May 5, 2010 9:04pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Mutation is the engine that drives evolution. Many mutations occur. Few are viable. Fewer still confer a competitive advantage. Sickle cell for example.....here is a mutation that can have devastating effects on the bearer. Yet it has been environmentally selected for in regions of the world where malaria is endemic. Thus, the mutation has propagated.
so are blue eyes. all blue eyed people had a common ancestor..this includes the brown eyed sibling
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  • #237,122
  • May 5, 2010 9:04pm May 5, 2010 9:04pm
Quoting gatorinla
can dogs breed back to wolves?
what came first the chicken or the egg?

My high school biology teacher used to say that every species originated from reptiles.
  • #237,123
  • May 5, 2010 9:05pm May 5, 2010 9:05pm
Quoting realjumper
I have a question about MT4. I don't use it for trading, but I use it for charting. You know how on the right hand side of the charts there is a vertical scale where the prices are?.....well, sometimes the price increments is 5 pip blocks, sometimes 10 pip blocks, sometimes 15 pip blocks or more. It changes depending on the range on screen. So when the rang is not much, it's usually in 5 pip blocks......when the range is great, it can go to 15 pip blocks. I find this annoying. Is there a way to fix this scale at (say) 10 pips, no matter the range?...
On "Chart => Properties" there's a "Scale fix" option. That could be what you're looking for.
  • #237,124
  • May 5, 2010 9:05pm May 5, 2010 9:05pm
Quoting gatorinla
you just described evolution
No I described breading,,,,, not at all the same.

But what about the double oo question?
  • #237,125
  • May 5, 2010 9:05pm May 5, 2010 9:05pm
Quoting knuckledrag
Simple, but no. Evolution and mutation are two different animals.
I love it... knucklehead pontificating on darwinism and whatever that other thing is.

Shave your chest there dude...
FUBAR...
  • #237,126
  • May 5, 2010 9:06pm May 5, 2010 9:06pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
I noticed monitor size affects this too. On the widescreen it looks different then a square one.
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass because it effects the perspective of the PA. When it's set itself to 5 pip increments, the PA moves a lot, or at least it appears to move a lot. When it sets itself to 15 pips, the PA doesn't seem to move too much......it's irritating because I might only be after 20 pips.
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  • #237,127
  • May 5, 2010 9:07pm May 5, 2010 9:07pm
Quoting gatorinla
so are blue eyes. all blue eyed people had a common ancestor..this includes the brown eyed sibling
Consider that all mitochondrial DNA is maternal. Care to guess what one discovers when studing the propagation of mitochondrial DNA?
  • #237,128
  • May 5, 2010 9:08pm May 5, 2010 9:08pm
Quoting Capital Gain
On "Chart => Properties" there's a "Scale fix" option. That could be what you're looking for.
Yeah, tried that but so far it doesn't work the way I want it to.....still playing with it because that may be the only way
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #237,129
  • May 5, 2010 9:09pm May 5, 2010 9:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
can dogs breed back to wolves?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mutation
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolution

like what has been described by knuckledrag
evolution happens due to a need to survive, factors caused by environment etc. a human 10,000 years ago that has evolved will still be a human today.

mutation is a sudden change from parent characteristic.

i ask you this back this question, can a halfling breed back to what its parents was? so your question was rhetoric

Quoting Capital Gain
MT4 charts are linear.
then sorry cant help
  • #237,130
  • May 5, 2010 9:09pm May 5, 2010 9:09pm
2838 atm rejection at 2840/41 would be nice.. for a bear wedge.. rejection
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #237,131
  • May 5, 2010 9:10pm May 5, 2010 9:10pm
Quoting gatorinla
fair.. but your ancestors and mine were the strongest or the smartest bad asses of all time. we killed off the weakest or the stupid. we stole, raped, murdered, and pillaged. we would not be here if we didn't. its in our DNA..
"Progress" in society is undoing all of their good work.
  • #237,132
  • May 5, 2010 9:10pm May 5, 2010 9:10pm
So mutation occurs during the span of one generation, whereas evolution is over the span of several generations?
  • #237,133
  • May 5, 2010 9:12pm May 5, 2010 9:12pm
Quoting realjumper
Yeah, tried that but so far it doesn't work the way I want it to.....still playing with it because that may be the only way
When at fixed scale, you can scroll the chart up and down with the arrows. I find it works, even if you have to change max/min level for each time frame.
  • #237,134
  • May 5, 2010 9:13pm May 5, 2010 9:13pm
Quoting gatorinla
2838 atm rejection at 2840/41 would be nice.. for a bear wedge.. rejection
just took a short in case the skinny wedge pops south. Not sure it's even that much a wedge but it does have that slant to it.
  • #237,135
  • May 5, 2010 9:14pm May 5, 2010 9:14pm
Quoting jest1081
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mutation
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolution

like what has been described by knuckledrag
evolution happens due to a need to survive, factors caused by environment etc.

mutation is a sudeen change from parent characteristic.

i ask you this back this question, can a halfling breed back to what its parents was? so your question was rhetoric
No. Ask anyone with a background in molecular genomics, and they will not subscribe to this type of crude distinction. Evolution is the sum of mutations that have either been benign or have conferred an advantage and have thus been selected for (note that I am discerning here between natural selection and/or other environmental selection). Evolution does not occur because of a "need to survive"....it's rather that a mutation occurs that produces an organism better suited than others around it...and thus thrives. Such a mutation happens by chance...it is but one in a huge number of other mutations that either conferred no advantage, or yielded a non-viable organism.
  • #237,136
  • May 5, 2010 9:15pm May 5, 2010 9:15pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
So mutation occurs during the span of one generation, whereas evolution is over the span of several generations?
mutation is a process within an evolution.
  • #237,137
  • May 5, 2010 9:15pm May 5, 2010 9:15pm
Quoting knuckledrag
Simple, but no. Evolution and mutation are two different animals. I love the traders dying of starvation stuff tho.

I'm not willing to do the debate again---- but dogs didn't evolve. Dogs are a product of exploited traits.

Evolution requires a change in the species out of a need to survive. Polar bears are a good example, but like most examples their having a hard time coming up with all the steps back to the original species.

I'm not a disbeliever in evolution, but it really has a lot of holes before its proven in my mind.

Now as for trading------...
Dogs did evolve, their evolution was simply accelerated through a selection process; humans bred the wolves/dogs that displayed the most desirable traits. I actually use directed evolution techniques in the lab to create bacteria with different traits. Proof for evolution is irrefutable. Even Pope John Paul believed in evolution, though saying it was God's hand at work

Anyway, long E/U and E/G
  • #237,138
  • May 5, 2010 9:16pm May 5, 2010 9:16pm
Quoting Capital Gain
When at fixed scale, you can scroll the chart up and down with the arrows. I find it works, even if you have to change max/min level for each time frame.
Yes, so you can

So it's just a matter of setting the range until I get what I want, then I can scroll up or down as the PA goes off the top or bottom of the chart.

That's the answer...thank you
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #237,139
  • May 5, 2010 9:17pm May 5, 2010 9:17pm
Quoting jest1081
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mutation
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolution

like what has been described by knuckledrag
evolution happens due to a need to survive, factors caused by environment etc. a human 10,000 years ago that has evolved will still be a human today.

mutation is a sudden change from parent characteristic.

i ask you this back this question, can a halfling breed back to what its parents was? so your question was rhetoric


then sorry cant help
evolution is loosely used in many parameters, i think the point was trading.. the point was to evolve. or you will not trade long. i stand by what i printed. put me on ignore if its a problem.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #237,140
  • May 5, 2010 9:17pm May 5, 2010 9:17pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
So mutation occurs during the span of one generation, whereas evolution is over the span of several generations?
Mutation is like growing a 5th limb that may or may not have any use.

Evolution is growing a 5th limb because certain conditions made it necessary to grow a 5th limb.
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