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  • #233,801
  • Apr 29, 2010 3:51pm Apr 29, 2010 3:51pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Oil @ 85.4.....
yeppers.. and ng is tanking... oil spill has something to do with it. they will line up now and say they dont want drilling off their shore. when we do like brazil we can close the valve.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #233,802
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:02pm Apr 29, 2010 4:02pm
Quoting gatorinla
best i can figure is the u.s. will fund 1/3 of 17% of imf loan.

u.s. 17% bailout hidden not talked about.
japan 6%
germany 6%
uk 5%
france 5%
italy 3%
spain 1.3%

germany 6%
france 5%
italy 3%
spain 1.3%
..............15.3% + additional for bailout. hidden not talked about.

if imf is funding 1/3 of deal U.S.. will pay 17% of the 1/3. almost 6% of entire deal. (rough math) but billions...

in addition you will...
We're now paying for the world too. Is this the knitting getting tighter that some refer to NWO. ???
  • #233,803
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:03pm Apr 29, 2010 4:03pm
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Oil @ 85.4.....
i did these green lines about 2 weeks ago. the first time i tracked oil.. seems to work..
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  • #233,804
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:07pm Apr 29, 2010 4:07pm
Quoting ozobU
Do you have a source link on the numbers please

TIA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna..._Monetary_Fund

try this... let me know what you come up with if im wrong.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #233,805
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:07pm Apr 29, 2010 4:07pm
Quoting gatorinla
i did these green lines about 2 weeks ago. the first time i tracked oil.. seems to work..
Thanks Gator....
  • #233,806
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:10pm Apr 29, 2010 4:10pm
Quoting gatorinla
best i can figure is the u.s. will fund 1/3 of 17% of imf loan.

u.s. 17% bailout hidden not talked about.
japan 6%
germany 6%
uk 5%
france 5%
italy 3%
spain 1.3%

germany 6%
france 5%
italy 3%
spain 1.3%
..............15.3% + additional for bailout. hidden not talked about.

if imf is funding 1/3 of deal U.S.. will pay 17% of the 1/3. almost 6% of entire deal. (rough math) but billions...

in addition you will...

giddy up!
  • #233,807
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:11pm Apr 29, 2010 4:11pm
Gator

thank you

I trust your math, certainly gets the point across

again thanks

Bill
  • #233,808
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:15pm Apr 29, 2010 4:15pm
Thanks Gator for breaking it down like that. This stuff gets clearer and clearer just by discussing it here. A lot more informing to just listen to you than read bloomberg/fox/reuters.

Here's a 4hr channel with a fib. That 50 level is tough.

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I haven't opened any trades since last night. My laptop has been acting up and I just wanted to get some good sleep.

I did just take a short though with a 50 pip stop and I'm still riding one thats +144 atm.


EDIT: those purple and the yellow line are Gators not mine. I just like to keep em' on my chart
  • #233,809
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:17pm Apr 29, 2010 4:17pm
Does anybody know where the money comes from that the IMF loans out?.. I mean specifically... Is it tax dollars? Or, is it privately owned? I looked it up on Wiki but.. either i'm not looking hard enough or the information is too ambiguous to determine..
  • #233,810
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:19pm Apr 29, 2010 4:19pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
We're now paying for the world too. Is this the knitting getting tighter that some refer to NWO. ???
grasshopper.. you funded euro to 1.6... and dow 14k.... time line your charts and usdx and eurx to dow 14k. you funded 147pb of oil. all part of the greatest transfer of wealth in history.

if u.s. dont fund china through wallmart and protect the world.. you could get a check from the gov. like the saudis do.. btw we send them money too and we spend billions to protect them.. we fought 2 wars to protect them.

reality.. but you have to listen to each word over and over.. we funded it... 1.6 oil ect.
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  • #233,811
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:22pm Apr 29, 2010 4:22pm
Quoting Kramerica
Does anybody know where the money comes from that the IMF loans out?.. I mean specifically... Is it tax dollars? Or, is it privately owned? I looked it up on Wiki but.. either i'm not looking hard enough or the information is too ambiguous to determine..
I assume it's probably a mix of both. They probably won't tell us where each country is really getting all the money for IMF. I'm sure that a lot is private investment but also tax dollars. edit: I'll look around a little on that too, I'm curious now that you brought it up
  • #233,812
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:24pm Apr 29, 2010 4:24pm
Quoting uraceulose
I assume it's probably a mix of both. They probably won't tell us where each country is really getting all the money for IMF. I'm sure that a lot is private investment but also tax dollars. edit: I'll look around a little on that too, I'm curious now that you brought it up
bb and geitner control u.s. portion
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #233,813
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:29pm Apr 29, 2010 4:29pm
Quoting gatorinla
bb and geitner control u.s. portion
Hmm... but the Fed is 80% privately owned.. Only 20% is owned by the government. That's what made me wonder.. The FED is NOT a governernment agency.. Most think it is.. But, it's not..
  • #233,814
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:30pm Apr 29, 2010 4:30pm
Good evening,

as I know IMF is owned by private bankers, who can lend biggest money to "help" countries...
  • #233,815
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:32pm Apr 29, 2010 4:32pm
Quoting Kramerica
Does anybody know where the money comes from that the IMF loans out?..

I looked it up on Wiki but..
Before there was Wiki, there was IMF

1 http://www.imf.org/external/about/orgfin.htm ((cuz I'm in a good mood atm...))
1.5 http://www.imf.org/external/about/borrow.htm

2. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=imf+home ... (for when I'm not...)
FUBAR...
  • #233,816
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:36pm Apr 29, 2010 4:36pm
Quoting Kramerica
Hmm... but the Fed is 80% privately owned.. Only 20% is owned by the government. That's what made me wonder.. The FED is NOT a governernment agency.. Most think it is.. But, it's not..
ok... i never thought us gov. owned any of the fed bank.. i never thought it was a gov. agency.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #233,817
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:37pm Apr 29, 2010 4:37pm
Quoting ak4x
Before there was Wiki, there was IMF

1 http://www.imf.org/external/about/orgfin.htm ((cuz I'm in a good mood atm...))

2. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=imf+home ... (for when I'm not...)
Thanks.. Imagine that.. LOL

I still think even that is a little ambiguous.. It said that the money is mainly from countries.. I guess we are to assume that the country is the Government and that Mainly is.. well.. hmmm.. Probably fractional banking and they are printing money like the FED..
  • #233,818
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:39pm Apr 29, 2010 4:39pm
Quoting gatorinla
ok... i never thought us gov. owned any of the fed bank.. i never thought it was a gov. agency.
that's because you are smarter than most.. I would bet a steak dinner that if I walk down the street and ask 20 people who owns the FED at least 18 will say that it is the government or, we (the people) do.
  • #233,819
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:48pm Apr 29, 2010 4:48pm
Quoting Kramerica
that's because you are smarter than most.. I would bet a steak dinner that if I walk down the street and ask 20 people who owns the FED at least 18 will say that it is the government or, we (the people) do.
no they are private company that doesnt kiss us. and gernerally dont use vasoline. they make 5% on money u.s. enables them to print. they make 5% in every dollar we borrow from ourselves. old hickory (ive been to his home & he has been to mine) had the only balanced budget during his stay..

my friend does the programing for all bank of new york main frames
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #233,820
  • Apr 29, 2010 4:51pm Apr 29, 2010 4:51pm
Quoting gatorinla
no they are private company that doesnt kiss us. and gernerally dont use vasoline. they make 5% on money u.s. enables them to print. they make 5% in every dollar we borrow from ourselves. old hickory (ive been to his home he has been to mine) had the only balanced budget during his stay..

my friend does the programing for all bank of new york main frames
Indeed.. Old Hickory.. the last true American Hero.. IMO
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