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  • #227,121
  • Apr 16, 2010 11:52am Apr 16, 2010 11:52am
Quoting Clouds
Free Markets. Sure. Oil, Bubble Gum, ect will still fluctuate based on supply/demand, but those that set the price will be actual purchasers and sellers, not what we have now with speculators. The DOW and NASDAQ are just casinos- they have nothing to do with Free Markets.
i agree sort of, but not entirely. its all expectations/maths/probability so its fine if i lose my money. my own money. but there are alot of dishonesty and integrity issues with firms, tts e prob i see.

but well, we're humans, if i'm e man up there, maybe i have no choice as well or temptation watever.
  • #227,122
  • Apr 16, 2010 11:55am Apr 16, 2010 11:55am
Less than 15 min to close H4 candle , chances that next candle will be a bull one towards H4 200ma close 1.3550 to high 74. not bad 100ma close to 200ma high range now .next 100ma low 1.3179??
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  • #227,123
  • Apr 16, 2010 11:57am Apr 16, 2010 11:57am
look folks.. look at it this way. warren buffet and you are more closer finacial wise. then you have been in years. hell you went up a few notches..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #227,124
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/24/bu...l?pagewanted=2
  • #227,125
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm
Quoting Artcritique
The world now has about 7 billion people. And we are all so interdependant that, what happens to one will probably happen to you also.
This ain't 1929 when 50% of the world's population was self sufficient.

That is the reason the US government must be seen to be in control of the "Clean up". If there is no respect for a central authority, there will be chaos. Our continued well being depends on communication and logistics to a degree you probably cannot imagine.
My comment was tongue in cheek. What good is some money in my pockets in the event of the collapse of civilisation? It would be fuel for a fire, at best.
  • #227,126
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm
Quoting gatorinla
look folks.. look at it this way. warren buffet and you are more closer finacial wise. then you have been in years. hell you went up a few notches..
He's is quite visible. What I worry about is that group, between Warren and me who were playing hearts and ended up holding the Queen of spades...

The concentration of wealth and power into very few hands is what promotes that vision of a 'Fuedal Future', which I mentioned earlier.
Ah Luv the smell of a good prediction in the mornin!
  • #227,127
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm Apr 16, 2010 12:03pm
Quoting Clairvoyant
i agree sort of, but not entirely. its all expectations/maths/probability so its fine if i lose my money. my own money. but there are alot of dishonesty and integrity issues with firms, tts e prob i see.

but well, we're humans, if i'm e man up there, maybe i have no choice as well or temptation watever.

Let me see if I can explain this right.

Here's what I don't get. Goldman brags about being able manipulate the market. So I've heard. Let's say for example, the manipulate the DOW, or even the currency markets. The legality is there to protect the DOW, or whatever. Who's fault is it? The DOW's? or Goldman? In my opinion, the stock market has too many laws protecting it.

Here's another example. The internet. Let's say that it was against the law to manipulate google search results. Then google search would not be as good as it is. Only a few evil people making websites to get google traffic, or whatever.

If Goldman or anyone can manipulate the DOW, or the currency markets, it's the fault of the DOW and the banks, not the speculators. Just my opinion.
  • #227,128
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:05pm Apr 16, 2010 12:05pm
i was short euro usd from 1.362.. i closed some too early and some at 1.357 when i saw the retrace... i should have known better, the higher high of the retrace was lower than previous highs... and i lost (not made) another 50 -60 pips... profit. thing is when i look at the chart it seems obvious that i should nt have closed at that lever... but i was too scared and greedy to hang on my profit...or maybe i m too greedy wanting an additional 60 pips...
Andreyou
  • #227,129
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:06pm Apr 16, 2010 12:06pm
I tend to take things too literally. Too many have the attitude you espoused.

Quoting Mr J
My comment was tongue in cheek. What good is some money in my pockets in the event of the collapse of civilisation? It would be fuel for a fire, at best.
Ah Luv the smell of a good prediction in the mornin!
  • #227,130
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:07pm Apr 16, 2010 12:07pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
allright guys, calling it a week for now. see you on sunday/monday.
Take care Mr. Hatch. have a good weekend
  • #227,131
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:10pm Apr 16, 2010 12:10pm
Great session for pivots and related QP/SP's...

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FUBAR...
  • #227,132
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:11pm Apr 16, 2010 12:11pm
The Street: Down sees triple-digit losses on goldman fraud charges.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10727...cm_ven=GOOGLEN
  • #227,133
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:11pm Apr 16, 2010 12:11pm
Quoting jsspmk
So much for "doing God's work", banker's quote of the century.
He didn't say which God's work they are doing. S&P bottom at 666
  • #227,134
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:12pm Apr 16, 2010 12:12pm
Quoting Fx Newbie
is there anyone trading Eur/Jpy i really wanted to know were to take profit based on this TF
collected profit with +198pips
Trade What You See and Not What You Think
  • #227,135
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:13pm Apr 16, 2010 12:13pm
So, now that goldman has pushed down the Dow should we be pro Eur at the moment? As I don't see the Usd continuing to climb because of the Dow losses.
  • #227,136
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:14pm Apr 16, 2010 12:14pm
Quoting Artcritique
I tend to take things too literally. Too many have the attitude you espoused.
No problem, it's easy to misunderstand someone when not talking in person. It does display the moral dilemma of trading though. I imagine most of us love some good drops, despite it being a reflection of the negative climate in the real world.
  • #227,137
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:16pm Apr 16, 2010 12:16pm
Quoting Jhig
So, now that goldman has pushed down the Dow should we be pro Eur at the moment? As I don't see the Usd continuing to climb because of the Dow losses.
I would think the money moving out of stocks into dollars would help the USD.

I don't know anything though this week just completes my first month of live trading.
  • #227,138
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:16pm Apr 16, 2010 12:16pm
WHAT GAP?
  • #227,139
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:16pm Apr 16, 2010 12:16pm
Quoting Jhig
So, now that goldman has pushed down the Dow should we be pro Eur at the moment? As I don't see the Usd continuing to climb because of the Dow losses.
dont know, im done trading for week
  • #227,140
  • Apr 16, 2010 12:21pm Apr 16, 2010 12:21pm
Quoting andreypu
and i lost (not made) another 50 -60 pips... profit.

.or maybe i m too greedy wanting an additional 60 pips...
In my book, it ain't profit till you book it, the only way to lose it is to give it back to the borker in a loser trade... I've had good trades that lost Coin, and horrible trades that made Coin... go figger. I learn from both kind and strive for good trades whether they make Coin or no. So should you.

Lighten up dude... greed ain't about "wanting another 60 pips" ((I'd rather want another 600 myself...)), it's more about wanting another 60 pips that you (or anyone else) had no reason to think you'd get if you just "hang in there" a little longer, but that's really part of your learning curve, not Greed.. Unless you don't Learn from it. If the market says "exit" you do it, and not until. That ain't greed dude, that's good trading.

I look for ways to "increase my profit by fine tuning exits" all the time and sometimes I even get it right, but I never "lose profit" unless I get give it back in a bonehead trade... or a good trade that didn't work out, those are two different things.
FUBAR...
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