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  • #225,321
  • Apr 13, 2010 10:52pm Apr 13, 2010 10:52pm
Quoting Why Oh Why
Short from 1.365 and 1.363. Long at 1.358. Last 1.365.


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What's the estimate target for your buy?
  • #225,322
  • Apr 13, 2010 10:52pm Apr 13, 2010 10:52pm
Quoting malcolmb14
here you go atlast

I hope this explains set up better and what I saw.

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malc, didn't you say something like it would be best, if big money pushed through the area up to 1.38 real hard and fast?
  • #225,323
  • Apr 13, 2010 10:55pm Apr 13, 2010 10:55pm
Quoting uraceulose
I'm taking a short on GU stop above R1. 30 pip 1st target. We'll c how it goes
that was a 50 pip stop. just stopped out...
  • #225,324
  • Apr 13, 2010 10:57pm Apr 13, 2010 10:57pm
Quoting Buckscoder
It makes very few trades. Probably the next trade in some weeks. Sorry. If I do not get too mad with some guys here, I could continue posting at least my manual trades. Last 14 trades profitable. I may also from time to time post how my robot trades, but not every trade, as I am not awake 24x5. Plus I keep it as secrets. I mean the system. Not for sale. Just today everybody could see it was right with the trades. I posted the entries before trading and updated this live here, which some guys had a problem with. I do not know why really.

If you...
right, i was just curious of u cared to share your analysis now...
  • #225,325
  • Apr 13, 2010 10:58pm Apr 13, 2010 10:58pm
Quoting uraceulose
that was a 50 pip stop. just stopped out...
sorry to hear that
  • #225,326
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:00pm Apr 13, 2010 11:00pm
Quoting lldocll
Emotions equal trading, robots equal no emotion, therefore robots equal no "profitable" trading
A robot doesn't have to understand emotion at all. If I feed it a statistic that price bounces 30 pips off the pivot 58% of the time, what does it matter to the robot how the market "feels" at that point?
  • #225,327
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:03pm Apr 13, 2010 11:03pm
wow today nearly now news during until 2.30pm cet
The wall on the upside is getting stronger tl on the downside is pressing price into a break out either side very soon. Hope I can get a coffe before it starts..
Trade on your own risk Plan your trade&trade your plan dont be a
  • #225,328
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:04pm Apr 13, 2010 11:04pm
Flying ...!?




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  • #225,329
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:07pm Apr 13, 2010 11:07pm
Quoting TheLastCoke
What's the estimate target for your buy?
EA managed based on price and stochs. No firm target.
Do not focus on making money; focus on protecting what you have.
  • #225,330
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:08pm Apr 13, 2010 11:08pm
Quoting Mr J
A robot doesn't have to understand emotion at all. If I feed it a statistic that price bounces 30 pips off the pivot 58% of the time, what does it matter to the robot how the market "feels" at that point?
A robot is a reflection of the human. In order to program the robot, the coder has to first come up with a set of rules.

I should stress that these rules are so well defined that the robot can execute with the intended results. The problem with most robots is that it is not the true reflection of what the creater wanted. This is due to the fact that the creator himself not having well enough defined rules.

For a robot to be able to do it, the human must first be able to do it. So in a way, asking what the robot fells is the same as asking the human who coded the robot the same question.
  • #225,331
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:08pm Apr 13, 2010 11:08pm
Let h4 confuse for 2 or more H4 candles , shorted for 1.3595/75 from M30,H1 tf , sell set up perfection in m30 & buy setup perfection in H1 but both need a go down .
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Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #225,332
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:08pm Apr 13, 2010 11:08pm
Quoting gatorinla
cool.. im curious, how does the eu going up increase your dads pay?
Dad's income comes from US clients paying him in EURO, good stuff so dad's price is fixed for example 100 EURO would be 132 usd last friday, now its gona be 136 USD good stuff!
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #225,333
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:11pm Apr 13, 2010 11:11pm
Quoting bguguen
Dad's income comes from US clients paying him in EURO, good stuff so dad's price is fixed for example 100 EURO would be 132 usd last friday, now its gona be 136 USD good stuff!
It doesn't matter unless your dad lives in US.

If your dad has always gotten 5k euro/month, he will continue to get 5k per month irregardless of the rates.

It is different if he gets euro and spends us dollars. You don't make sense...
  • #225,334
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:11pm Apr 13, 2010 11:11pm
Quoting thelws
A robot is a reflection of the human. In order to program the robot, the coder has to first come up with a set of rules.

I should stress that these rules are so well defined that the robot can execute with the intended results. The problem with most robots is that it is not the true reflection of what the creater wanted. This is due to the fact that the creator himself not having well enough defined rules.

For a robot to be able to do it, the human must first be able to do it. So in a way, asking what the robot fells is the same as asking the...
But emotions can be that 2 percent that elevate a human trader above a robot
  • #225,335
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:14pm Apr 13, 2010 11:14pm
Quoting thelws
A robot is a reflection of the human. In order to program the robot, the coder has to first come up with a set of rules.

I should stress that these rules are so well defined that the robot can execute with the intended results. The problem with most robots is that it is not the true reflection of what the creater wanted. This is due to the fact that the creator himself not having well enough defined rules.

For a robot to be able to do it, the human must first be able to do it. So in a way, asking what the robot fells is the same as asking...
Agree with everyone you said. except the robot can MULTIPLE what a human can do by 1,000X. It can look at that many stocks, or whatever you're trading, and catch things a human can miss.
  • #225,336
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:14pm Apr 13, 2010 11:14pm
and if humans control the market, then they will adapt and deceive the robot
  • #225,337
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:15pm Apr 13, 2010 11:15pm
Quoting thelws
It doesn't matter unless your dad lives in US.

If your dad has always gotten 5k euro/month, he will continue to get 5k per month irregardless of the rates.

It is different if he gets euro and spends us dollars. You don't make sense...
Right bloody hell... because we live in Hong Kong our Currency is Linked to USD (pretty much) but my dad works for a european company and gets paid a fixed rate per hour as a consultant in EURO, soooo when EURO goes up against the USD we actually have MORE money to spend on stuff in HKD since HKD and USD are pretty much linked USD/HKD has always been at 7.79...
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #225,338
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:16pm Apr 13, 2010 11:16pm
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Trade on your own risk Plan your trade&trade your plan dont be a
  • #225,339
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:18pm Apr 13, 2010 11:18pm
Quoting Clouds
Agree with everyone you said. except the robot can MULTIPLE what a human can do by 1,000X. It can look at that many stocks, or whatever you're trading, and catch things a human can miss.
True, which is why so many people want to code a robot

@lldocll: it will never happen because markets can never be tamed. It has never happened and will probably never will. A robot that works will always work.
  • #225,340
  • Apr 13, 2010 11:21pm Apr 13, 2010 11:21pm
Quoting thelws
A robot is a reflection of the human. In order to program the robot, the coder has to first come up with a set of rules.

So in a way, asking what the robot fells is the same as asking the human who coded the robot the same question.
Your post is actually an argument against the original poster I quoted.

My argument is that neither emotion or an understanding of it is necessary for trading. Overall I would say we are trading people, but the mass of this human action creates statistics that allow for profitable trading. Like I said before, if I have a statistic that can be traded profitably, where is the emotion, or the necessity to understand it?

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But emotions can be that 2 percent that elevate a human trader above a robot

The ability to understand emotion is part of it, but the complete edge of a human trader is being able to put it altogether. This can't currently be replicated by programmers. It isn't just emotion or the ability to understand it, it's the ability to understand a complex system.

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and if humans control the market, then they will adapt and deceive the robot

There are traders that beat up on algos.
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