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  • #223,241
  • Apr 9, 2010 10:33pm Apr 9, 2010 10:33pm
Quoting enterfx
Comments and suggestions for improvements are most welcome.
I'm not qualified on those tools to suggest any improvements but I do have a comment...

Freakin great post.
FUBAR...
  • #223,242
  • Apr 9, 2010 11:03pm Apr 9, 2010 11:03pm
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  • #223,243
  • Apr 9, 2010 11:15pm Apr 9, 2010 11:15pm
Down .3362 - .3335 Up .3542 - .3614

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  • #223,244
  • Apr 9, 2010 11:49pm Apr 9, 2010 11:49pm
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/busines...mentid=4021561
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  • #223,245
  • Apr 9, 2010 11:55pm Apr 9, 2010 11:55pm
I am myself not convinced that EU downtrend is over. However 13680-13700 is crucial. and that would be reached this next week.

Are you hazarding a marriage to EU short position? I just asked because I see couple of your posts trying to justify that EU should go down...

Quoting gatorinla
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/busines...mentid=4021561
Its all in the mind.
  • #223,246
  • Apr 10, 2010 12:16am Apr 10, 2010 12:16am
Quoting gatorinla
http://news.malaysia.msn.com/busines...mentid=4021561
today is not the first bank down grade. they had one feb. 23. for a 300 pip drop. back then there was bail out talk too. but this was before greece the country was down graded. if there is a run on the banks it will affect all of ez banks. And more then likely cross the atlantic and pacific. central banks will play games.

this could be just as serious as 2008.. maybe more.. we are closer to the ground now. european banks are weaker this time then at the begining of 2008 crises. without money they close. cc/atm dont work. unlikely to happen, but cant be ruled out.

have a good weekend.
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  • #223,247
  • Edited 12:38am Apr 10, 2010 12:26am | Edited 12:38am
Quoting 5abi
I am myself not convinced that EU downtrend is over. However 13680-13700 is crucial. and that would be reached this next week.

Are you hazarding a marriage to EU short position? I just asked because I see couple of your posts trying to justify that EU should go down...
sounds like your doing what you asked if i was doing. my eyes are wide open. i talked about this for over a year if you care to read older post. i mentioned the double bottom on the weekly. i also mentioned the big bear wedge on the usdx days ago. so the eu going up is not unexpected. but the bullshit of holding the eu up with news print. is just that. if they wanted to end this they could have 6 weeks ago. they still dont have a plan. just words to put off things until they do. well now the down grade will force "shit or off the pot".. and if you look at the chart eu was going down long before greece..

i justify nothing. but, i call bullshit just what it is. i dont mind making coin on bullshit. i just dont like losing it on cb manipulation.

this bank down grade was released after market close. ez/greece has all weekend to finalise bailout..if not .. market may do it for them..we dont know what market reaction will be..
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  • #223,248
  • Apr 10, 2010 12:33am Apr 10, 2010 12:33am
I am playing by the day. A few points at a time.
Ofcourse they gonna pump it so it can be dumped from up. Higher it goes, more bang for the buck it is. However, greek downgrade news was stale when the day closed y'day. I dont know what time they released bank downgrade.

Last EU Bid at 3499 on my esignal quote...guess we will find out tomorrow.

Quoting gatorinla
sounds like your doing what you asked if i was doing. my eyes are wide open. i talked about this for over a year if you care to read older post. i mentioned the double bottom on the weekly. i also mentioned the big bear wedge on the usdx days ago. so the eu going up is not unexpected. but the bullshit of holding the eu up with news print. is just that. if they wanted to end this they could have 6 weeks ago. they still dont have a plan. just words to put off things until they do. well now the down grade will force "shit or off the pot".. and if...
Its all in the mind.
  • #223,249
  • Apr 10, 2010 12:49am Apr 10, 2010 12:49am
Quoting 5abi
I am playing by the day. A few points at a time.
Ofcourse they gonna pump it so it can be dumped from up. Higher it goes, more bang for the buck it is. However, greek downgrade news was stale when the day closed y'day. I dont know what time they released bank downgrade.

Last EU Bid at 3499 on my esignal quote...guess we will find out tomorrow.
im not sure about all my brokers. my software on most, shuts down at market close. but one allows me to call in orders at least for a few minutes after market closes. this news was released not long after close.. so some big time dealers may have orders placed already that is not reflected on my charts. some of these players are banks.. does e-signal shut down? or keep a live price over the weekend?
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  • #223,250
  • Edited 1:33am Apr 10, 2010 12:54am | Edited 1:33am
Quoting 5abi
I am myself not convinced that EU downtrend is over. However 13680-13700 is crucial. and that would be reached this next week.

Are you hazarding a marriage to EU short position? I just asked because I see couple of your posts trying to justify that EU should go down...
Lots of confusion around EU now , end 5th or continue still with extension having apparent double bottom & more clearer end than not.
If end then min 38.2 % level 1.3960 due to 100ma close 1.4056 ,50% fibs 1.42,200ma 1.4279,61.8% 1.4483 or upto top can easily play .

If not end then may end down 1.2871,1.27 if not down now.

so untill & unless movements does not clear itself anything can happen.
For upside confirmation I will take price over 1.3590 & downside 1.3260 only.
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  • #223,251
  • Apr 10, 2010 12:56am Apr 10, 2010 12:56am
Greece is bankrupt, and the euro will rise when EU decide to help athens?
the problem continues...
  • #223,252
  • Apr 10, 2010 1:00am Apr 10, 2010 1:00am
last quote is from 5:15 pm texas time on esignal. Citi showing bids ATM at 3492, oanda at 3494. Both will accept orders but no idea if gets filled at what price.

Quoting gatorinla
im not sure about all my brokers. my software on most, shuts down at market close. but one allows me to call in orders at least for a few minutes after market closes. this news was released not long after close.. so some big time dealers may have orders placed already that is not reflected on my charts. some of these players are banks.. does e-signal shut down? or keep a live price over the weekend?
Its all in the mind.
  • #223,253
  • Apr 10, 2010 1:11am Apr 10, 2010 1:11am
Quoting forexpt
Greece is bankrupt, and the euro will rise when EU decide to help athens?
the problem continues...
sure , when see one problem & invite other to solve this without making by own means that is basically inviting other bigger trouble , next goes much more bigger & the vicious cycles continues & so it will be. euro zone if full vicious cycles now itself , they have no capacity to solve their own problems by any single unit or as a whole and they created euro , they still not prepared for such creature ,problem just start coming ,ultimately will give birth lots more one after the other same vicious cycle continues till the evolution & all quite in the western front.

And this time USD will take full advantages & the star may favour after so many years of sufferings & next time will be more matured & try avoid old mistakes & a new world will eventually emerge.

My intuition/halucination only.nothing serious.
fontu
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  • #223,254
  • Apr 10, 2010 1:11am Apr 10, 2010 1:11am
Quoting ak4x
I'm not qualified on those tools to suggest any improvements but I do have a comment...

Freakin great post.

Thank you sir.

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  • #223,255
  • Apr 10, 2010 1:44am Apr 10, 2010 1:44am
Quoting gatorinla
........but the bullshit of holding the eu up with news print. is just that. if they wanted to end this they could have 6 weeks ago. they still dont have a plan. just words to put off things until they do. .....
Precisely.....
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  • #223,256
  • Edited 3:19am Apr 10, 2010 1:50am | Edited 3:19am
Quoting plan-b
I'd be surprised if it went below 1.333

even 1.3362 might break the fall

but it's all speculation at this point, a bullish ny close is all i'm hoping for

It will probably open and retrace down to 1.3362 plus change before taking out that upper TL which i think is still intact for now.


gu might also give something back maybe to 1.52



As usual i will just open a weekly and wait for Friday close..


This week ended at 1.3494 and i think we are due for a big 500-1000 move by april close




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  • #223,257
  • Apr 10, 2010 2:47am Apr 10, 2010 2:47am
gossip in euro zone :
- plan to save greece can start verry quickly if necesarry.....
- lower interest for greece than usual....
- eu stateas want to save greece and can....

like i said...it's just political this delay with saving greece.....and usa had a moderated tone for these period because they are not strong...
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i am out for weekend....the gossip is from tv in a euro state.. 4.questions message me on private...
gook luck and good weekend and have fun in the sun
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  • #223,258
  • Apr 10, 2010 4:02am Apr 10, 2010 4:02am
Quoting gatorinla
im not sure about all my brokers. my software on most, shuts down at market close. but one allows me to call in orders at least for a few minutes after market closes. this news was released not long after close.. so some big time dealers may have orders placed already that is not reflected on my charts. some of these players are banks.. does e-signal shut down? or keep a live price over the weekend?
Oanda offers live prices even in the weekend AFAIK - you could get their demo and check the price. Opened the platform now, but no movement yet. I'm thinking if there is a so-called 'gap' it will take place on sunday night-monday morning, close to Sydney open. That's what happened the last time - march 28 - i don't have any gap on my oanda charts then. Just a small red candle and a huge green candle.
I'd attach a chart, but i'm not sure how to get a picture of just the chart with the relevant details from Oanda (i guess i could just take a screen-grab and paste it in paint, but curiously the timeframe is not posted on the charts).
Also, new here
  • #223,259
  • Apr 10, 2010 5:00am Apr 10, 2010 5:00am
Polish president feared dead in a plane crash Breaking news.
Prices oscillate, trends persist. Trend is your friend.
  • #223,260
  • Apr 10, 2010 5:38am Apr 10, 2010 5:38am
The trouble with their bailout is that Germany is not willing to lend at 'non Market rates' & for Greece they are unacceptable. Also, IMF says that any loan will have to be met with IMF conditions attached, how does Trichet explain that? They haven't so far. But key to all this is reaction to any news as long as long as it is definite. Market is locked between 1.35 & 1.32, only a breakout no matter what resolution they come up with will determine the outcome. That's pretty much what you have said anyway.

Quoting gatorinla
sounds like your doing what you asked if i was doing. my eyes are wide open. i talked about this for over a year if you care to read older post. i mentioned the double bottom on the weekly. i also mentioned the big bear wedge on the usdx days ago. so the eu going up is not unexpected. but the bullshit of holding the eu up with news print. is just that. if they wanted to end this they could have 6 weeks ago. they still dont have a plan. just words to put off things until they do. well now the down grade will force "shit or off the pot".. and if...
Prices oscillate, trends persist. Trend is your friend.
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