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  • #1,121
  • Mar 27, 2010 5:20am Mar 27, 2010 5:20am
Quoting dnedelchev
Impressive results, my friend. Are these results following the standart mechanical rules or have you made some changes to fit your trading style?
The only things I changed are:
- S/L under/above the last swing. These can sometimes be large so use money management
- I enter only on H4 fresh signals. I don't enter when H4 trends have been running for a few bars (too risky for me).
  • #1,122
  • Mar 27, 2010 5:44am Mar 27, 2010 5:44am
Quoting roachroach
Hi,
For those who want to know if this system is profitable:

+1012 pips in 4 weeks using all pairs with spread < or = 6 pips. And I haven't been using addons yet.

Another thing, I was wondering if anyone tried scalping with this system, like trading M15/M1 following tony's rules. Imagine there's a nice bullish trend, when all indicators (TL and AO) are bearish on H4 (so no HA T3-1 trades), but you want to take profit of these potential long trades by scalping... It can be sometimes fustrating losing opportunities in countertrend trades!
GREAT trading ... i am new around here

was using ichimoku before now want to get used to HA

is it possible for you to post your template pls ?

tks n big hello from france

recidiviste

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  • #1,123
  • Mar 27, 2010 6:35am Mar 27, 2010 6:35am
Quoting roachroach
The only things I changed are:
- S/L under/above the last swing. These can sometimes be large so use money management
- I enter only on H4 fresh signals. I don't enter when H4 trends have been running for a few bars (too risky for me).
Nice. This is also what I am planning to do, when I have enough time to sit down and test. What is your strategy on exiting your trades, as it seems everyone is using something from their trading style.
  • #1,124
  • Mar 27, 2010 7:11am Mar 27, 2010 7:11am
Quoting recidiviste
GREAT trading ... i am new around here

was using ichimoku before now want to get used to HA

is it possible for you to post your template pls ?

tks n big hello from france

recidiviste

Salut Recidiviste,

Voilà mes templates, j'utilise rien de particulier, juste ceux de Tony, en un peu modifié..

Here are the templates I'm using, nothing special really...

Ciao from Nice!
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File Type: tpl ha t3-1 system h4.tpl   3 KB | 538 downloads
File Type: tpl ha t3-1 system m30.tpl   3 KB | 515 downloads
  • #1,125
  • Mar 27, 2010 7:13am Mar 27, 2010 7:13am
Quoting dnedelchev
Nice. This is also what I am planning to do, when I have enough time to sit down and test. What is your strategy on exiting your trades, as it seems everyone is using something from their trading style.
I haven't really got a defined strategy yet, still working on it. I just get out when I "feel" it. I do get out immediatly as soon as I see an H4 HA retracement arrow.
  • #1,126
  • Mar 27, 2010 8:41am Mar 27, 2010 8:41am
im new to this thread..

but looking at it, it has really good potential. having an EA for it is i think will earn ok.

posted is my chart, gu m30

following the entry, HA arrow and the WLNX..

question,

when the HA BLUE arrow shows, but the WLNX is red? still ahve to wait for it to be BLUE too right?

making the AO just a reference for the weakness of the trend?

btw, i attached AO H1. for im finding the H4 quite late as reference on m30. im no expert but as i can see it, i like the AO H1 vs M30 more.

i also attached powerswing indi here just to see the entry. sometimes, as you can see, they show same bar, or 1 past or before bar.

it is like when both shows up, then it is a good entry. this is not to divert the system, im just using it as reference.

still, the exit is the question. a better one. for those reading powerswing, you cannot use the exit arrow as exit since it repaints. but i also still have to study it when the market opens.
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  • #1,127
  • Mar 27, 2010 9:32am Mar 27, 2010 9:32am
Hi outloud20
I am new to forex, and found this great thread, which looks promising. I have been working it for couple of weeks and still learning it. Thanks for posting.
Could you post your power swing indi? I find that monitoring a large number of systems, any extra visual cues (at my level of experience) helps out. I like to keep a fairly clean chart, but this would seem to help.
In regards to your comments on exits, personally I use Fib levels, pivot points, and support / resistance. Still learning though.
Thanks again for posting. Hope this thread continues.

Jdub
  • #1,128
  • Edited 10:09am Mar 27, 2010 10:02am | Edited 10:09am
Quoting Cenzo
RD, this is an amazing piece of work, well done. It compliments Tony's setup perfectly.

I was also curious about the notification on divergence and how this could be automated, you have certainly hit the nail there.
You also mentioned there being a mismatch with the Buy-Sell indi.. could you please elaborate here.

I will let you know how my demo goes

I hope you can keep us updated with improvements or further mods. I would be keen to hear how you are doing with your new developemnts.

Good luck with the MQL..

Cenzo.
Cenzo,

Thank you for your compliments; I certainly appreciate them.

As for the mismatch, in the first revision of tonyb's trend rules the HA candle alert was the primary signal and was to be confirmed against the trend indicated by (AO above/below the Zero Line) AND (TrendLord matching the AO). In this indicator, the three criteria are the HA alert, W-LNX and TrendLord. The Entry signal was to utilize the HA Alert, and use the W-LNX with the AO to confirm.

To summarize,

Current Indicators/signals used in the BuySell-TrendLord2.mq4:
1) HA Candle Alert
2) TrendLord trend color
3) W-LNX trend color

Proposal to comply with original Tonyb Trend outline:
1) HA Candle Alert
2) AO above/below ZL
3) TrendLord trend color

Proposal to comply with original Tonyb Entry signal outline:
1) HA Candle Alert
2) W-LNX trend color
3) AO above/below ZL

I know that tonyb did revise his original trend and entry signals later in the thread but, reducing the confirmations that are working for him adds variables and changes the system into an unknown. Tony has kindly offered what is working for him and for us to assume that some other combination of indicators will offer the same results is a wild guess or shot in the dark.

My only intention was to simplify the viewing of the trend and entry signals. It was not to outline some modified tonyb criteria.

Cheers and have a great weekend for on Sunday we trade!,

RD
  • #1,129
  • Edited 6:13pm Mar 29, 2010 5:17pm | Edited 6:13pm
Hi RD,

First of all I just wanted to say thanks for putting together your setup as per Tony's system. Very well done. I just came across this glitch while backtesting and thought I would show you. Seems to be with many pairs and on 30minTF only.

Anyways thought I thought I would bring this to your attention.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...elefx/hat3.gif



Bluesteele
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,130
  • Mar 30, 2010 5:59am Mar 30, 2010 5:59am
Quoting outloud20
im new to this thread..

but looking at it, it has really good potential. having an EA for it is i think will earn ok.

posted is my chart, gu m30

following the entry, HA arrow and the WLNX..

question,

when the HA BLUE arrow shows, but the WLNX is red? still ahve to wait for it to be BLUE too right?

making the AO just a reference for the weakness of the trend?

btw, i attached AO H1. for im finding the H4 quite late as reference on m30. im no expert but as i can see it, i like the AO H1 vs M30 more.

i also attached powerswing indi here just...


hello
I would like to propose a situation, put this forum examples of negotiations taking place at present and not past negotiations. I think it would be more useful to everyone. Best trades
  • #1,131
  • Mar 30, 2010 1:19pm Mar 30, 2010 1:19pm
Well I am still in the processing of testing Tony`s system and am liking what I am seeing with it

The biggest thing for me is applying simple analysis to each chart. Both the 4HR and 30Min. By simple analysis I mean basic PA,coupled with trendlines.HH's/HL's etc...
Entries are so important and having site of the bigger picture really helps.

Blindly taking these signals will result in you losing IMO. Understanding PA and basic TA is really all that is needed to trade this successfully and of course proper MM.

Tony must be busy shovelling all his pips to the bank ;-)

Bluesteele
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,132
  • Mar 31, 2010 9:43am Mar 31, 2010 9:43am
GBP/USD buy signal stopped out by trailling stop +78 pips.
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  • #1,133
  • Mar 31, 2010 10:30am Mar 31, 2010 10:30am
Quoting bluesteele
Hi RD,

First of all I just wanted to say thanks for putting together your setup as per Tony's system. Very well done. I just came across this glitch while backtesting and thought I would show you. Seems to be with many pairs and on 30minTF only.

Anyways thought I thought I would bring this to your attention.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...elefx/hat3.gif



Bluesteele
I had this problem and increased the bars in the indicator to something really big.
  • #1,134
  • Mar 31, 2010 6:29pm Mar 31, 2010 6:29pm
Actually changed the main HA to the same as my background colour. Now their is no weirdness going on with the 30 min bars. I prefer anyways not to have the HA in my main window so I can monitor PA a bit closer.

My eyes are not what they used to be .LOL

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...reensetup1.gif


As well I prefer a light background for less screen glare and seems to let me see the bars and indis much better.

Bluesteele
Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #1,135
  • Apr 1, 2010 2:15pm Apr 1, 2010 2:15pm
First of all many thanks to Tony for bringing this system to us all

I have been backtesting for a while now and got frustrated so I wrote an EA to help me out. It is still in its early days of development and only has the core rules in place as I understand them. There are no add-ons coded at the moment - but will code them later. I have recently converted from Tradestation to MT4 and just getting to grips with the new programming language.

I have used all indicators from post 1 except I replaced W-LNX with Woodie_LNX as I could not get W-LNX to work.

Have a look and see if it can be of any use. Let me know if you spot any bugs etc.
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File Type: zip HA-T3-1-v0.1_EA.zip   37 KB | 670 downloads
  • #1,136
  • Apr 1, 2010 3:31pm Apr 1, 2010 3:31pm
fxdrive: do we place EA on 30M chart or 4Hr?

Thanks
  • #1,137
  • Apr 1, 2010 3:52pm Apr 1, 2010 3:52pm
Quoting goflyers10
fxdrive: do we place EA on 30M chart or 4Hr?

Thanks
I have been using 30M. The EA will use the H4 and 30M timeframes regardless of the timeframe its put on. I'm just trying to follow Tonys rules. If you see any of the rules violated then let me know.
  • #1,138
  • Apr 1, 2010 6:27pm Apr 1, 2010 6:27pm
Here are a couple of indys that might help. A MTF indy that combines HA, TL and AO for the 4hr and a second indy that is WNX, HA and AO for the lower timeframe. You have to use the Trendlord-1 for the HA,AO and TL to work.
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Click to Enlarge Name: Indys.PNG Size: 59 KB
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 HA_AO_TL_mtf-1.mq4   5 KB | 740 downloads
File Type: mq4 HA-T3_Signal_AO_HA_WNX_Bars.mq4   3 KB | 754 downloads
File Type: mq4 TrendLord-1.mq4   2 KB | 836 downloads
  • #1,139
  • Edited 9:37pm Apr 1, 2010 9:15pm | Edited 9:37pm
Quoting fxdrive
First of all many thanks to Tony for bringing this system to us all

I have been backtesting for a while now and got frustrated so I wrote an EA to help me out. It is still in its early days of development and only has the core rules in place as I understand them. There are no add-ons coded at the moment - but will code them later. I have recently converted from Tradestation to MT4 and just getting to grips with the new programming language.

I have used all indicators from post 1 except I replaced W-LNX with Woodie_LNX as I could not...
Can you please post the settings you are using for the EA on the 30M time frame.
  • #1,140
  • Apr 2, 2010 3:50am Apr 2, 2010 3:50am
Quoting mgs1f
Can you please post the settings you are using for the EA on the 30M time frame.
I don't have any settings that produce consistent profits, however, the default settings are what I interpret as Tony's rules. There are a few rules missing such as add-ons and News trading which I intend to add.

The main purpose of this EA is to backtest the strategy to see what works. It may be that this strategy is not a mechanical one and trader judgement is required. When I add News trading to the EA we will only be able to forward test.

Try running the EA through the strategy tester and optimizer. The filters can be easily turned on and off with 0 and 1 so it is optimizer friendly.
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