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  • #214,041
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:05am Mar 22, 2010 12:05am
Quoting mmccormac
I was only kidding. I deleted that comment right after I posted because I didn't want people getting off on the subject of politics.

Thanks for quoting me! lol


Edit: I'm not one of his followers or listeners so I don't know much about him... Just know of him.

lol, good point. I deleted my post
  • #214,042
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:07am Mar 22, 2010 12:07am
But, it is pretty good. However, the government option would never have survived at any level of your government. The lobbys of the HMO's and the Big Pharma corporations are just too stong and make too many contributions. It may not appear to be a big improvement to you now, but for 40 years some of your leaders have recognized the social and economic costs of holding people hostage to health. This may be a "Baby step", but atleast the door is now open for improvement.

Quoting gatorinla
gatorinla

la = louisiana
i hear ya. there are people they will not get it at any price. even if they can afford it. there are others who abuse the system. my point was kinda.. there would not be a need to aurgue about coverage to ic.. the billing could be simplified and eliminate the millions of different procedure codes all different depending on ic. in the process just have a data entry person. and a procedure to have all medical records follow you to eliminate doing same test over...
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  • #214,043
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:20am Mar 22, 2010 12:20am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...uperstate.html

"The failure of EU leaders to cobble together a plausible bail-out – if that is what occurs at this week’s Brussels summit – is a 'game-changer' in market parlance. Eurogroup chair Jean-Claude Juncker said last month that such an outcome would shatter the credibility of monetary union. It certainly shatters many assumptions.

There will be no inevitable move to fiscal federalism; no EU treasury or economic government; no debt union. It is Stalingrad for the federalist camp and the institutions of the permanent EU government."


...and with E/U at parity or lower finally I can afford to go to Amsterdam and get some good weed.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #214,044
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:23am Mar 22, 2010 12:23am
Quoting Artcritique
But, it is pretty good. However, the government option would never have survived at any level of your government. The lobbys of the HMO's and the Big Pharma corporations are just too stong and make too many contributions. It may not appear to be a big improvement to you now, but for 40 years some of your leaders have recognized the social and economic costs of holding people hostage to health. This may be a "Baby step", but atleast the door is now open for improvement.
i had a regular job at one time.. i worked mostly shift work.. mostly plant jobs. so on my days off i bought and refurbished houses then either rented or sold them.. before the flip crap was widespread. many guys i worked with had other sources of income from sidline business they owned/worked... a high percentage of motivated people seek out shift work for this reason. a large percentage of us made much more money doing other things. the thing that kept us from quiting our main job was the insurance. its what keeps many people in other walks in life from quiting.
not just to quit.. but to quit and start millions of small businesses. small business is the biggest employment engine u.s. has. and i bet my left one it increases small business ownership. ..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #214,045
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:31am Mar 22, 2010 12:31am
All the dem's, love Nancy, and frankly i think she seems sweet too, but look at this picture, hah

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_...G_full_600.jpg
  • #214,046
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:34am Mar 22, 2010 12:34am
[quote=The Fool;3571634]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...uperstate.html

"The failure of EU leaders to cobble together a plausible bail-out – if that is what occurs at this week’s Brussels summit – is a 'game-changer' in market parlance. Eurogroup chair Jean-Claude Juncker said last month that such an outcome would shatter the credibility of monetary union. It certainly shatters many assumptions.
hell if they legalise it here. it takes some of the profit out of the thugs hands. opens law enforcement to do other things.. opens the jails to let out 40k anal (yes anal as we take it up the... on annual basis) per person in prison cost.. it sets up a tobacco type revenue stream for gov. personally i dont smoke.. but the cost out weighs any benefit.. we might save enough to fund new fuel? or health-care or just pay off some bills..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #214,047
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:41am Mar 22, 2010 12:41am
it may not be long now.. i luv predictives
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  • #214,048
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:42am Mar 22, 2010 12:42am
Quoting gatorinla
hell if they legalise it here. it takes some of the profit out of the thugs hands. opens law enforcement to do other things..
Amen.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #214,049
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:43am Mar 22, 2010 12:43am
Quoting The Fool
Amen.
like homeland security..
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  • #214,050
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:44am Mar 22, 2010 12:44am
Hello everyone. I agree with gator, health insurance has gotten out of control the last several years and I've been paying for it. This reform, the way it is written, could be a good thing for the country.
  • #214,051
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:45am Mar 22, 2010 12:45am
take time to filtr down. I would estimate 10 yrs..???

Quoting gatorinla
i had a regular job at one time.. i worked mostly shift work.. mostly plant jobs. so on my days off i bought and refurbished houses then either rented or sold them.. before the flip crap was widespread. many guys i worked with had other sources of income from sidline business they owned/worked... a high percentage of motivated people seek out shift work for this reason. a large percentage of us made much more money doing other things. the thing that kept us from quiting our main job was the insurance. its what keeps many people in other walks in...
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  • #214,052
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:52am Mar 22, 2010 12:52am
I really think this was purely politically motivated stunt, and here is what the healthcare industry has to say.

10:1 leverage will be another great victory for the people of the US, no?

http://www.ahip.org/content/pressrel...px?docid=29767

"Weak Coverage Requirement – The legislation will encourage people to wait to purchase coverage until they are sick, which unfairly penalizes those who currently have coverage. According to CBO, 23 million Americans will remain uninsured once this bill is fully implemented.

Age Rating – The new age rating requirements will cause premiums to increase for people under the age of 30 by more than 50 percent.
Medicare Advantage:

Massive Medicare Advantage Cuts – The legislation imposes $200 billion in cuts to Medicare Advantage that will cause massive disruption for the more than 10 million seniors enrolled in the program. If these cuts are enacted, millions of seniors in Medicare Advantage will lose their coverage, and millions more will face higher premiums and reduced benefits. "
  • #214,053
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:53am Mar 22, 2010 12:53am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Hello everyone. I agree with gator, health insurance has gotten out of control the last several years and I've been paying for it. This reform, the way it is written, could be a good thing for the country.
*L* i wasn't pushing it. I'm just saying whats coming out in the media is not telling the whole story. there always layers hidden in the message. no matter how it is portrayed. i think most of us love our country.. yes even the talking heads and politicians on either side. and just like in any family argument emotion gets the better of us. we will do crap in spite just to piss off the other.. but make no mistake family matters is one thing. if an outsider jumps in its his dead ass he will have to save. we will come together in time for the next crisis.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #214,054
  • Mar 22, 2010 12:57am Mar 22, 2010 12:57am
Quoting Artcritique
take time to filtr down. I would estimate 10 yrs..???
had it happend in boom years about 30 days
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #214,055
  • Mar 22, 2010 1:06am Mar 22, 2010 1:06am
BTW. I think you were wrong about cable....

Quoting gatorinla
had it happend in boom years about 30 days
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  • #214,056
  • Mar 22, 2010 1:11am Mar 22, 2010 1:11am
good play shorts so far , expecting some bear continuation 1.3484 before the bounce start rather fall now .may cash some weekend position not so better entry in eu
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  • #214,057
  • Mar 22, 2010 1:12am Mar 22, 2010 1:12am
EURUSD--bids in EBS in excess of +250 EUR at 1.3500 and been there all day so there is some protection/interest there for now. Stops immediately below it. Market talking about barrier expiry today but haven't heard a word here of that on spot or options desk.
  • #214,058
  • Mar 22, 2010 1:12am Mar 22, 2010 1:12am
i bought on friday (everyting on Avg. open)
eur-usd 1.3518
eur-cad 1.3720.
eur-jpy 123

i see some bearish movement, so i hedge from today so, i can get some pips there because i think we are going to see my avg. open values on eur-usd and eur-jpy, Im not closing them on losses. eur-cad and eur-chf i have it on a long term trade so im trying to put a lower order so i can put my avg also lower.

i have buy orders on eur-usd 1.3460, eur-jpy 121.60, eur-cad 1.3690. Its risky but i think is a good reward ratio and i lower my averages and the hedge would help me a lot
  • #214,059
  • Mar 22, 2010 1:14am Mar 22, 2010 1:14am
Quoting Clouds
I really think this was purely politically motivated stunt, and here is what the healthcare industry has to say.

10:1 leverage will be another great victory for the people of the US, no?

http://www.ahip.org/content/pressrel...px?docid=29767

"Weak Coverage Requirement – The legislation will encourage people to wait to purchase coverage until they are sick, which unfairly penalizes those who currently have coverage. According to CBO, 23 million Americans will remain uninsured once this bill is fully implemented.

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i agree there will be cuts..in these programs. whether or not it will be made up from new coverage is debatable. but this program was added not long ago unfunded. it is part of the deficit cost today.

so if giving seniors this coverage during an election period was non political. and then saying it was taken away is a political stunt. im proplexed. the ones taking it away will have the most to lose. so i cant see any politcal advantage in taking away this. after all, seniors vote.

i take anything insurance companys or politicians or the talking heads in media say with a pound of salt. ill wait a couple of years after the smell lays down.

either way the unfunded aproach was killing us. but this wasnt political when it was originally done, right?
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #214,060
  • Mar 22, 2010 1:16am Mar 22, 2010 1:16am
I must be in the wrong thread, I was under the impression that this thread was about Forex and the EURUSD and not the Health care issue, Oh well, gues I will have to go find the right thread.
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