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  • #211,961
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:07pm Mar 16, 2010 10:07pm
Quoting mfoste1
most volume is traded by.....they make up over 70% of intraday vol....hedge funds borrow from these banks

1.deutsche bank
2.ubs
3.barclays
4.rbs
5.citi
6.jpm
7.citi
8.hsbc
9.goldman
10.credit suisse
First you say 50%, then you edit and say 70%, you put Citi in 2 positions simultaneously... Please stop make up stadistics.

Moreover banks are intermediaries, not players, for example if people want dollars to invest leveraged in stocks they lend them dollars and dollar fall against the rest of currencies, etc. The prices in currency pairs don't move exclusively by the Forex traders, that's the difference with the rest of markets, and banks are only intermediaries I repeat.

Edit: the only banks that take part in Forex market are Central Banks.
  • #211,962
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:09pm Mar 16, 2010 10:09pm
Quoting malcolmb14
I heard the big player is WOO....


  • #211,963
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:13pm Mar 16, 2010 10:13pm
Quoting Trad3r
First you say 50%, then you edit and say 70%, you put Citi in 2 positions simultaneously... Please stop make up stadistics.

Moreover banks are intermediaries, not players, for example if people want dollars to invest leveraged in stocks they lend them dollars and dollar fall against the rest of currencies, etc. The prices in currency pairs don't move exclusively by the Forex traders, that's the difference with the rest of markets, and banks are only intermediaries I repeat.

wtf ...

who control countries currency

DO these names ring a bell ???

BANK OF ENGLAND
FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
BANQUE DE FRANCE
BANK OF CANADA

etc etc etc

It is the central banks responsibility to stablize the currency .... of course on different days there will be different flows.

Also banks are not players ????

.... ever heard of Goldman Sachs, that now have bank status ? they are behind 90% of moves in the markets now they got rid of both Lehman and Bear Sterns.. best way to eliminate the competition is buy the US Government and get a bail out while your competitors are left to hang out to dry.
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  • #211,964
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:15pm Mar 16, 2010 10:15pm
Quoting Trad3r
First you say 50%, then you edit and say 70%, you put Citi in 2 positions simultaneously... Please stop make up stadistics.

Moreover banks are intermediaries, not players, for example if people want dollars to invest leveraged in stocks they lend them dollars and dollar fall against the rest of currencies, etc. The prices in currency pairs don't move exclusively by the Forex traders, that's the difference with the rest of markets, and banks are only intermediaries I repeat.

arent made up theyre facts, pal. sorry for the citi error ill fix it. btw spot transactions make up for most volume traded,then i think swaps followed by forwards, by those banks.
  • #211,965
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:20pm Mar 16, 2010 10:20pm
Quoting Trad3r
Moreover banks are intermediaries, not players, for example if people want dollars to invest leveraged in stocks they lend them dollars and dollar fall against the rest of currencies, etc. The prices in currency pairs don't move exclusively by the Forex traders, that's the difference with the rest of markets, and banks are only intermediaries I repeat.

Edit: the only banks that take part in Forex market are Central Banks.
No.....
The banks are the ones that determine prices. Citi, Chase, ect.... Central banks don't determine prices.... If you want to buy euros, you better be willing pay what the banks say the price is. Sure, you can shop around, but they all know each other's prices. If there were no banks setting prices, there would be no forex. In forex, the banks are the players, and they are playing against other banks, we just get to sit on the sidelines and watch.
  • #211,966
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:20pm Mar 16, 2010 10:20pm
Quoting malcolmb14
wtf ...

who control countries currency

DO these names ring a bell ???

BANK OF ENGLAND
FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
BANQUE DE FRANCE
BANK OF CANADA

etc etc etc

It is the central banks responsibility to stablize the currency .... of course on different days there will be different flows.

Also banks are not players ????

.... ever heard of Goldman Sachs, that now have bank status ? they are behind 90% of moves in the markets now they got rid of both Lehman and Bear Sterns.. best way to eliminate the competition is buy the US Government and get a bail...
Of course that central banks take part but not commercial banks, "investing banks" are not really "banks", it's an etymological fraud call banks to people like Goldman Sach, the most appropiate word could be "banksters".
  • #211,967
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:23pm Mar 16, 2010 10:23pm
This is interesting and now has me wondering who are the big players and what is the percentage of volume of each sector

sectors

Commercial Banks
Central Banks
Hedge funds
Corporations
Speculators
Retail forex traders (woo and his 1 mini)

any one got any stats on what percentage is in each sector?


Quoting malcolmb14
wtf ...

who control countries currency

DO these names ring a bell ???

BANK OF ENGLAND
FEDERAL RESERVE BANK
BANQUE DE FRANCE
BANK OF CANADA

etc etc etc

It is the central banks responsibility to stablize the currency .... of course on different days there will be different flows.

Also banks are not players ????

.... ever heard of Goldman Sachs, that now have bank status ? they are behind 90% of moves in the markets now they got rid of both Lehman and Bear Sterns.. best way to eliminate the competition is buy the US Government...
Blogging daily now at www.volume.zone
  • #211,968
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:23pm Mar 16, 2010 10:23pm
Quoting Clouds
No.....
The banks are the ones that determine prices. Citi, Chase, ect.... Central banks don't determine prices.... If you want to buy euros, you better be willing pay what the banks say the price is. Sure, you can shop around, but they all know each other's prices. If there were no banks setting prices, there would be no forex. In forex, the banks are the players, and they are playing against other banks, we just get to sit on the sidelines and watch.
Central banks determine the monetary price which all commercial banks must accept... There is no free market in the actual financial system, read the austrian theory of economics.
  • #211,969
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:24pm Mar 16, 2010 10:24pm
Quoting Trad3r
Of course that central banks take part but not commercial banks, "investing banks" are not really "banks", it's an etymological fraud call banks to people like Goldman Sach, the most appropiate word could be "banksters".
lol

Yeah Goldman and their sachs bots .... so often when they are working on the es you can see the auto trading signature all over the place in price action .
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  • #211,970
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:26pm Mar 16, 2010 10:26pm
Quoting malcolmb14
This is interesting and now has me wondering who are the big players and what is the percentage of volume of each sector

sectors

Commercial Banks
Central Banks
Hedge funds
Corporations
Speculators
Retail forex traders (woo and his 1 mini)

any one got any stats on what percentage is in each sector?
It comes down to the banks and the customers. The banks (from large to small) determine prices and sell to customers (central banks, hedge funds, corporations, speculators, ect)
  • #211,971
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:28pm Mar 16, 2010 10:28pm
OK we all know the banks are big in this Forex game...now who thinks that the reason we have been in this small channel since and hour or two after the NY close is just the calm before the move upwards during the London session...I've got a few shorts since 1.3780 I was hoping that it would at least see 1.3750, I just don't see it doing it tonight....I'm just waiting a little to see if I can get it down to the bottom of the15m bollinger band at about 1.3760... anyway good luck to all tonight...
  • #211,972
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:28pm Mar 16, 2010 10:28pm
Found this interesting info.. Mal will probably be vindicated at 1.4 +


Friday, March 12, 2010

COT U.S. Dollar Diffusion Index


The up trend in the dollar diffusion index has failed. Ready or not, against the prevailing consensus/hype, the trend line roll over implies: (1) a lower dollar, (2) higher gold, (3) and a return of the giddiness of the carry trade on Wall Street in the near future.
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  • #211,973
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:28pm Mar 16, 2010 10:28pm
Quoting redroadking
All Bushes fault, according to your finger.....
Sept. 19, 2008

Barack Obama:

"Today, I fully support the effort of Secretary Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke to work in a bipartisan spirit with Congress to find this kind of solution.
What we're looking at right now is to provide the Treasury and the Federal Reserve with as broad authority as necessary to stabilize markets and maintain credit."

And sorry, it does matter that the guy that was supposed to be overseeing all of it, is now head of the US treasury.....
ok.. the captain of the ship at the time has nothing to do with it. and the new captain (4 months later after ship sunk) that took advice from the first mate is too blame. so its all the first mates fault for bailing and the new captains fault for agreeing to bail. the captain who under his watch had nothing to do with it. i uderstand now.. that damn mark furman did it..

hell if my first mate is not doing a good job i fire him.

whatever happend to "the buck stops here"

good luck with that rewrite.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #211,974
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:29pm Mar 16, 2010 10:29pm
all large banks in wallstreet are nothing just large rogue hedge fund in disguise.
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" leonardo da vinci
  • #211,975
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:30pm Mar 16, 2010 10:30pm
Quoting Trad3r
Central banks determine the monetary price which all commercial banks must accept... There is no free market in the actual financial system, read the austrian theory of economics.
If the US central bank controls it's US banks too much, they couldn't compete with Europe banks, ect. So most are very lax. If u open a store, sure there's somethings u must do to abide by state laws, but you can make your own signs, discounts. The central banks don't control you, or your banks, stop being paranoid.
  • #211,976
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:31pm Mar 16, 2010 10:31pm
Quoting Bankit
Let me get this straight... We're going to be gifted with a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president who also hasn't read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, and financed by a country that's broke?
Exactly.
Oh....you forgot one other thing, passed by a House of Reps that now won't even VOTE on it.
  • #211,977
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:32pm Mar 16, 2010 10:32pm
Quoting malcolmb14
This is interesting and now has me wondering who are the big players and what is the percentage of volume of each sector

sectors

Commercial Banks
Central Banks
Hedge funds
Corporations
Speculators
Retail forex traders (woo and his 1 mini)

any one got any stats on what percentage is in each sector?
I think that commercial and central banks are the counterpart of the rest, because if you want to buy euros against dollars you have to go to a commercial or a central bank to change dollars by euros, so volume of banks is allways same than the rest, I suppose.
  • #211,978
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:32pm Mar 16, 2010 10:32pm
Quoting Trad3r
Of course that central banks take part but not commercial banks, "investing banks" are not really "banks", it's an etymological fraud call banks to people like Goldman Sach, the most appropiate word could be "banksters".
you even said it urself, pal....
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  • #211,979
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:37pm Mar 16, 2010 10:37pm
My kiwi short just got stopped out at be....oh well....probably couldn't have expected much more in this pa at this time of day.....
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  • #211,980
  • Mar 16, 2010 10:37pm Mar 16, 2010 10:37pm
Quoting gatorinla
ok.. the captain of the ship at the time has nothing to do with it. and the new captain (4 months later after ship sunk) that took advice from the first mate is too blame. so its all the first mates fault for bailing and the new captains fault for agreeing to bail. the captain who under his watch had nothing to do with it. i uderstand now.. that damn mark furman did it..

hell if my first mate is not doing a good job i fire him.

whatever happend to "the buck stops here"

good luck with that rewrite.
Rewrite ??


That is a quote from Obama Sept. 2008, not 4 months after the "ship sunk". He was as knee deep in this as anyone. You think it is a coincidence that Geithner was named......HE was the best guy for the job ? And Barry seems pretty pleased with BB as well.

.......you seem pretty good at math.

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