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  • #10,881
  • Mar 14, 2010 2:01pm Mar 14, 2010 2:01pm
Hi Sonic
Just wanted to ask You, what is the status of your H4 v2.3 system? Was it completed? I can't find it anywhere.
Thx

and sorry for offtopic
  • #10,882
  • Edited 3:06pm Mar 14, 2010 2:05pm | Edited 3:06pm
Quoting missH
Hi RI found this system is introduced by a friend and attracted by it immediately. I come from Beijing.I have a very good classmate come from Harubin. In my impression, Harubin people are boy--strong, girl-slim, tall. In the FX market, I am a newbie just two month. From the posts of you, T, B and other's, I learn much. But there is still something confused me, such as the frequence of opening position for one day when the Main TF is 15min, or how to decide to open a position when the trend is conflict between TF 1h and TF 15min, etc.I am so admiring...

It does not matter if you are or are not a lady. LoL

It just appears that you were from your handle name. LoL

Regarding your question, and it is a good question, it is also a question that REALLY confused me for a long time. And also, I could not visualize it, so I sort of blocked myself from seeing it.

VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

I could not understand this concept of how we can trade Price Action on higher TF for a long time even though, people tried to tell me, I could just not get it, it did not compute in my mind NO MATTER, how carefully or abruptly it was explained to me. I went over to J16 and studied my BUTT OFF from morning to night, sometimes more than 15 hours a day!
Now I REALIZE, with the kind help of Basber & TAH that, and this is REALLY the bottom line here, TO TRADE THE SONICR SYSTEM, WE ONLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE WAVE AND BELIEVE IN IT, ALONG WITH SUPPORT AND RESISTANCE AND COMMON SENSE + MONEY MANAGEMENT.
And I could never visualize the day I would EVER say the above, that day just arrives somehow!



We are trading on the M15 TF but, the when we see a wave composed of a high Low Higher High Higher Low, it is really price action on a larger TF.
It may be a hammer, it may be a Bullish Engulfing Bar on H4 or D1.

This is what we are actually trading when we see the wave on M15.


So the wave on M15 actually takes care of Price Action on higher TF without anyone really having to run off to the James 16 thread and learn price action as I did.
I know it is hard to understand at first that you are actually trading price action on a higher TF and it may be a counter trend trade. The best way is just to believe the wave.
I am not suggesting anyone go against the major trend in the weekly screen shot, I am just showing that the trend can be down on a larger TF and we can still get a successful sonic wave and consequences.


Hope this helps.

PS: Yes, you are right, my wife is rather tall and slim & most importantly of all PYORAN!
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  • #10,883
  • Edited 2:45pm Mar 14, 2010 2:09pm | Edited 2:45pm
Quoting DanPa
Rastaman, maybe you will find this video very interesting....i know you will!
i know everybody will!
http://www.thesecret2u.com/

ENJOY!
DanPa


Good video DP.
A lot of that is true I believe.

We do indeed attract what we want and indeed what we don't want.

Right now, I want to be a good trader so hard, I study at least 10 hours a day everyday. Now, I even find myself trading in my dreams. Honest, I am looking for higher highs and higher lows in my dreams! LoL
It happens maybe 3 or 4 times a week. It is so funny.


PS: Actually this reminds of something, when I first came to Japan I had trouble learning the language, but after 2 years, I was dreaming in Japanese.
My British friends in my dreams would speak Japanese, they have never even been to Japan yet alone speak the language.
I would ask these British friends in my dreams, "How come you can now speak Japanese?
They would reply, "Because this is your dream"!


Thanks for sharing the link.
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  • #10,884
  • Mar 14, 2010 2:14pm Mar 14, 2010 2:14pm
Quoting Rastaman
Good video DP.
A lot of that is true I believe.

We do indeed attract what we want and indeed what we don't want.

Right now, I want to be a good trader so hard, I study at least 10 hours a day everyday. Now, I even find myself trading in my dreams. Honest, I am looking for higher highs and higher lows in my dreams! LoL
It happens maybe 3 or 4 times a week. It is so funny.

Thanks for sharing the link.

Haha Rasta I completely understand how you feel, I started my freshmen year of college and feel like I spend more time on the forex markets than looking at schoolwork. My gf gets angry I am always looking at charts but its just a passion cannot give it up.
  • #10,885
  • Edited 3:02pm Mar 14, 2010 2:17pm | Edited 3:02pm
Quoting gustav213
Haha Rasta I completely understand how you feel, I started my freshmen year of college and feel like I spend more time on the forex markets than looking at schoolwork. My gf gets angry I am always looking at charts but its just a passion cannot give it up.

Yes, if we want something hard enough we have to work equally as hard to make sure we get it. Good Job.
PS: But I also believe that this hard work is not a permanent thing, I don't mean we can ever just be lackadaisical about trading.
I mean. for example remember how hard it was to learn to drive a car?
My father made me learn to drive his car when I was 8.
I would ask, how do I know when to change the gears, he just told me I would hear the time in the engine. I could not believe this. How can an engine tell anyone when to change the gears?
It did, and now, all of us take it for granted and just do it.
Hopefully one day, trading will be similar to this we will just act on what we see at the correct time because price will tell us when to change gears.

Then they say, it becomes very profitable but totally boring. LoL I wish!
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  • #10,886
  • Mar 14, 2010 3:09pm Mar 14, 2010 3:09pm
Quoting ravin
Way to go Rasta....

Good luck ..wanna see hitting 3000th post

I just understood your point, after seeing it was my 2002 post!
Unfortunately, only about 3 of them are worth reading. LoL

Well, it is 5 am better go back to bed.
I only got up because I had a stomach ache, writing all these posts helped me forget it.
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  • #10,887
  • Mar 14, 2010 3:12pm Mar 14, 2010 3:12pm
Quoting Rastaman
Yes, if we want something hard enough we have to work equally as hard to make sure we get it. Good Job.
PS: But I also believe that this hard work is not a permanent thing, I don't mean we can ever just be lackadaisical about trading.
I mean. for example remember how hard it was to learn to drive a car?
My father made me learn to drive his car when I was 8.
I would ask, how do I know when to change the gears, he just told me I would hear the time in the engine. I could not believe this. How can an engine tell anyone when to change the gears?
It...

Hahaha, yeah I know just have to make it part of our life, but at the same time markets are never the same and we must adapt, so while we might just become accustomed to it, I think we will probably get very used to it but I dont think it will ever be some simple or automatic like driving a care, at least I hope not haha. That would just kinda suck.
  • #10,888
  • Mar 14, 2010 3:33pm Mar 14, 2010 3:33pm
Quoting Rastaman
I just understood your point, after seeing it was my 2002 post!
Unfortunately, only about 3 of them are worth reading. LoL

Well, .... i dont think you seen the movie...

( ''Your wish is my command''! )
  • #10,889
  • Mar 14, 2010 3:58pm Mar 14, 2010 3:58pm
Hello, I have done some analysis on the majors pairs.

I drawed rectangle when NVO showed activity. I drawed a blue box, when PA showed bullish action like HH or a V shape bottom. In red the short side. I really try hard to be fully logic and watch the left of the chart, when I draw these rectangle, nevertheless I am influenced by what happen to right of the chart
I remark

1) high activity with HH or LL, drive to a short lived trend and finally to end of the trend. Big Dogs are exiting the trend

2) low activity with HH or LL with a reversal pattern, leads to a beginning of a new trend. I believe that is Big Dogs entering the new trend in stealth mode

3) when HH or LL happen in a trend (HH in uptrend and LL in downtrend), there is a lot of chance that a shakeout occurs and the trend continues

With EU and EJ, I saw new HH and a good shake. I am bullish on these ones, at least for monday.

I don't now if these kind of analysis is useful, remarks are always welcome
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  • #10,890
  • Mar 14, 2010 4:04pm Mar 14, 2010 4:04pm
Here is a picture using the series of new Pivot indys, version 6. Note that market open times can be displayed for both yesterday and today. And note that those for today are on the chart in advance! So, you have warning/lead time to prepare for a market open.
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  • #10,891
  • Mar 14, 2010 4:11pm Mar 14, 2010 4:11pm
Continue :

GU : new HH, but quite a lot of activity (maybe due to friday trading). I suspect the trend come to the end soon. I dont exclude the possibility that GU can make a new HH.

UJ : new HH and a good shake. The legs down have been deep. I am bull on this one and I watch if a LL is formed.
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  • #10,892
  • Mar 14, 2010 4:11pm Mar 14, 2010 4:11pm
Quoting traderathome
Here is a picture using the series of new Pivot indys, version 6. Note that market open times can be displayed for both yesterday and today. And note that those for today are on the chart in advance! So, you have warning/lead time to prepare for a market open.

Nice work TAH! looks very ... smart!
  • #10,893
  • Mar 14, 2010 7:53pm Mar 14, 2010 7:53pm
Hi guys,

Let's compress the replies !!

Quoting Rastaman

Hey, Basber has not been around for a while, I am getting a bit worried as he said he was not feeling well.
I'm all OK Rastaman, I was very busy during 3-4 days ago, so I couldn't even trade the good setups on friday ... I'm here now Thanks a lot for asking


Quoting Rastaman
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I think Sonic, Basber, TAH & DD probably do not need to make the journal now but, it is a very good idea for new people.
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I'm really surprized (not now, during last few weeks) of how things have changed in your mind during these 3-4 months ...

I still have my trades, because even traders with 10 years of trading can have a 11th losing year if they forget the keys that made them win. So I intend to have my journal (not like yours, very very simpler) to analyze what's happening with me if I'm having a losing strike. By this way I can fight them as soon as possible.

That's very kind of you rastaman to speak about me like you did. But I really did nothing ... nothing but sharing what I've been through. I've done it for many others too, and you see that. But YOU are the one who worked on himself to become a better trader. What TAH, DD, Sonic, I, and even many many new traders said to you, just show you the path, you're the one who crossed it ... You should be thankful to yourself


Quoting daydreaming
hi everyone.. i'm a newbie in forex and interested with the sonic trading system.. but i can't understand how to read the each of indicators in sonic system.. is there anyone can help?? thanks in advance..
I'm strongly recommend traders to have at least few months of tradering and learn basic concepts of this market before the intend to trade with ANY method. It helps them grow faster. There are many good sources of general information about this business.

It's nothing wrong to trade this system without any initial experiment, but it will be very hard for you to UNDERSTAND some things if you are totally new in this business. As you know, It's not a formula that you can do "X" then "Y" happens. You should understand it properly so you can master this market and be profitable.

You have a long and hard road to pass, so get prepare !


Regards,
Basber
Trading methods are designed to put the odds in our favor, not predicting.
  • #10,894
  • Edited Mar 15, 2010 12:14am Mar 14, 2010 10:47pm | Edited Mar 15, 2010 12:14am
Thank you Basber, but without the map being drawn for me so eloquently by you guys, I would not even know the road existed yet alone be able to cross it. Many, Many thanks to everyone.

Just looking at EU volume, are we getting the pump down in preparation of the bailout of Greece?
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  • #10,895
  • Mar 14, 2010 11:32pm Mar 14, 2010 11:32pm
Your analysis looks very interesting. I happen to be tired from reading all day so will make comments (such as they are worth( later but your analytical approach is impressive.
  • #10,896
  • Mar 15, 2010 12:44am Mar 15, 2010 12:44am
Quoting Basber
Hi guys,

Let's compress the replies !!



I'm all OK Rastaman, I was very busy during 3-4 days ago, so I couldn't even trade the good setups on friday ... I'm here now Thanks a lot for asking




I'm really surprized (not now, during last few weeks) of how things have changed in your mind during these 3-4 months ...

I still have my trades, because even traders with 10 years of trading can have a 11th losing year if they forget the keys that made them win. So I intend to have my journal (not like yours, very very simpler) to analyze...
"It's nothing wrong to trade this system without any initial experiment, but it will be very hard for you to UNDERSTAND some things if you are totally new in this business. As you know, It's not a formula that you can do "X" then "Y" happens. You should understand it properly so you can master this market and be profitable." - Basber

Boy! If that ain't an understatement! The key is in how to come to understanding it (market movements) properly, so we can master the market and be profitable. At this stage of my perspective, I believe starting with a map, and following the route marked on the map, is the best way to travel while learning the countryside. SonicR is that map and each trade made in strict accordance with the method is a step forward on the route. As time goes by, and only as time goes by, will experience in the market acquaint us with its idiosyncracies. It is best to stay steadfastly on the route as we get hit by them.
  • #10,897
  • Edited 2:40am Mar 15, 2010 2:20am | Edited 2:40am
GU:

Here is an interesting picture of activity. 133 count up, then 145 count while kept up at very top! What does THAT say?

To me, it means price was driven up and then kept up for shorting. It was driven up just prior to FF open. FF traders may pump it themselves. Nevertheless, it seems when the price manipulation is over with, price may start falling nicely. Warning: Speculation!

Edit: 133 up. Then, before returning....145 + 186 + 111...... Good reason to suspect this will fall eventually, imho.
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  • #10,898
  • Mar 15, 2010 2:22am Mar 15, 2010 2:22am
Quoting Basber
I'm strongly recommend traders to have at least few months of tradering and learn basic concepts of this market before the intend to trade with ANY method. It helps them grow faster. There are many good sources of general information about this business.

It's nothing wrong to trade this system without any initial experiment, but it will be very hard for you to UNDERSTAND some things if you are totally new in this business. As you know, It's not a formula that you can do "X" then "Y" happens. You should understand it properly so you can master...
nice.. thanks for the advice.. i'll try to learn more about the trading.. Thanks alot Sir
  • #10,899
  • Mar 15, 2010 2:56am Mar 15, 2010 2:56am
GU Short Trade:

I entered a bit early (high). Proper EP is blue rectangle. Black TL, my guess, will approximate limit of any pump by US traders later. If PA breaks it, I will worry.
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  • #10,900
  • Mar 15, 2010 3:00am Mar 15, 2010 3:00am
Hello TAH, I've been following this thread for a time and I really like your template, can you please post it with your indicators??
thanks =)
PS: Really thanks your your help I really learn with your posts.
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