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  • #205,261
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:19pm Mar 2, 2010 11:19pm
Quoting realjumper
Where DO you get all these cool words from?
He must be edumicated,, I think he went to shcool,, or sompin...
  • #205,262
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:21pm Mar 2, 2010 11:21pm
Quoting Mr Hatch
i think i'm finally sold to vsa
vsa is not just one candle .. it is history and back ground ... up moves that reverse followed many candles by a test of the failure level with a no demand

understanding vsa is like reading a book .... makes trading easy

like right now on 15 min eu high vol at old resistance stop on long moved very tight
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  • #205,263
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:25pm Mar 2, 2010 11:25pm
Quoting realjumper
This whole Greece/Germany crap is pissing me right off....it's all smoke and mirrors....inuendo....leaked 'facts' and straight out deception, manipulation and utter bullshit!

Someone said the other day that if governments were ran like a business, they'd all go broke....and ain't that a fact!!!
All the governments are all broke already !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • #205,264
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:26pm Mar 2, 2010 11:26pm
Price action will try the third time to break 1.368~~. Most likely it wouldn't.
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  • #205,265
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:30pm Mar 2, 2010 11:30pm
Good evening ! (edit)
Ok People i think I know why it is bullish now. If you take a look on the weekly chart there was a bearish flag. The fall from the flag is completed (almost), I think it is completed. And it is time to go a little upward. I have been waiting for this to happen last week, but it is happening now.
So, hopefully I will enjoy my trip to the everest. I have 2 orders, so wish me a good luck...
  • #205,266
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:51pm Mar 2, 2010 11:51pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...G4wR7uGk&pos=5

“It is clear in the current environment, and likely for a long time going forward, any entity that profits from another’s misfortune, in this case hedge funds versus Greece and the euro zone, risks being the target of public backlash, or worse, government retaliation,” said Kirby Daley, a senior strategist in Hong Kong with Newedge Group’s prime brokerage business."


Maybe Malcomb is right. The hedge fund moguls have been unloading all those euro shorts over the last weeks because they are afraid people might say, "Shame on you! Bad!"

But, if the buying has been so massive, how come the rate has been so slow to rise? And if the buying has been massive but only massive enough to balance out of those massive shorts, where does that leave us? Not on the fast-track back to 1.5?
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  • #205,267
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:56pm Mar 2, 2010 11:56pm
Quoting The Fool
where does that leave us? Not on the fast-track back to 1.5?
Well if we are, I'm going to buy malcolmb a beer......and Chicky will be very happy too
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  • #205,268
  • Mar 2, 2010 11:57pm Mar 2, 2010 11:57pm
Quoting Radik
Good evening ! (edit)
Ok People i think I know why it is bullish now. If you take a look on the weekly chart there was a bearish flag. The fall from the flag is completed (almost), I think it is completed. And it is time to go a little upward. I have been waiting for this to happen last week, but it is happening now.
So, hopefully I will enjoy my trip to the everest. I have 2 orders, so wish me a good luck...
are you buying and going to everst at a resistance or selling to go to south africa .
  • #205,269
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:03am Mar 3, 2010 12:03am
Quoting Driver55
if you're still short ... take as reference 3653.
above this level , your short position can become heavy to hold.
thanks..yeah.. i'm just hoping it does.... id take a loss at around 3600 too...
gladly even this hour failed to close in the 365x area..
hope it tanks now..
Greece optimism my ass... fact is greece is fucked... to hell with optimism
  • #205,270
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:04am Mar 3, 2010 12:04am
the thing is pros seem to be buying at low but then they stop , not even supporting price , allowing it to drop back into their buy zone . This is accumulation of the best kind and the kind of stuff that IF I am not making this up and my bias is not wrong could lead to a 1500 pip up move

take this example. I started to talk about this down move in july .. due to the chop I got all kinds of shit over in gu forum ... result = 2000 pip so far. These big moves do not happen overnight they take time to form and mature. To be honest of eu is to rise 2000 or more we could be in this range for another 4 to 8 weeks as the accumulation continues


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Quoting The Fool
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...G4wR7uGk&pos=5

“It is clear in the current environment, and likely for a long time going forward, any entity that profits from another’s misfortune, in this case hedge funds versus Greece and the euro zone, risks being the target of public backlash, or worse, government retaliation,” said [url="http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=Kirby+Daley&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date:S:d1"]Kirby...
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  • #205,271
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:04am Mar 3, 2010 12:04am
Quoting $maker
Greece optimism my ass... fact is greece is fucked... to hell with optimism
don't challenge fortuna.
  • #205,272
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:06am Mar 3, 2010 12:06am
Quoting $maker
thanks..yeah.. i'm just hoping it does.... id take a loss at around 3600 too...
gladly even this hour failed to close in the 365x area..
hope it tanks now..
Greece optimism my ass... fact is greece is fucked... to hell with optimism
Lol. The fact is your overleverage your account. And clearly you can't afford to lose what you risked in the trade. True, it was bad luck that your internet went down but if I remember correctly, the price went down for another leg before moving up yesterday.
  • #205,273
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:06am Mar 3, 2010 12:06am
Quoting realjumper
Well if we are, I'm going to buy malcolmb a beer......and Chicky will be very happy too
Well, he deserves it. I poke fun at Malcomb a bit but we are lucky to have him here. The fact is, most of the trillions traded daily in otc fx are intraday bets just like you and I make. The vagaries of comparative currency fundamentals have little to do with the movement of the rate short-term. The movement of the rate is what makes the rate move (if that makes sense) - and a key to understanding how she moves in is in the volume data.

Just for jollies though I'd bet M. we see 1.30 before we see 1.50 - hey he's rich he can afford to spot me 500 pips.
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  • #205,274
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:10am Mar 3, 2010 12:10am
Quoting c2v4l
Lol. The fact is your overleverage your account. And clearly you can't afford to lose what you risked in the trade. True, it was bad luck that your internet went down but if I remember correctly, the price went down for another leg before moving up yesterday.
yes.. but the net never came back up..
yes i did over leverage.. because i was watching it closely.... and would take it off... i just was very sure that 351 -49 would be coming back very soon since we hit a new low....
and since i was watching i didnt enter a SL/TP...
and got raped....

we'll see how this plays...
like i said.. id take my loss at 3600 .... but overall we should still be going down.... i dont see a 4000 anytime soon
  • #205,275
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:10am Mar 3, 2010 12:10am
Quoting malcolmb14
the thing is pros seem to be buying at low but then they stop , not even supporting price , allowing it to drop back into their buy zone . This is accumulation of the best kind and the kind of stuff that IF I am not making this up and my bias is not wrong could lead to a 1500 pip up move

take this example. I started to talk about this down move in july .. due to the chop I got all kinds of shit over in gu forum ... result = 2000 pip so far. These big moves do not happen overnight they take time to form and mature. To be honest of eu is to rise...
this assumption would make the market pretty predictable for the forseeable future... were there no news, which - if positive for the euro - would take the accumulation one step further up. repeating this accumulation one price range higher, buying the lows and letting it fall back again - now, this is what i call real trading. long way to go 'til i'm there.
  • #205,276
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:11am Mar 3, 2010 12:11am
Quoting The Fool
Well, he deserves it. I poke fun at Malcomb a bit but we are lucky to have him here. The fact is, most of the trillions traded daily in otc fx are intraday bets just like you and I make. The vagaries of comparative currency fundamentals have little to do with the movement of the rate short-term. The movement of the rate is what makes the rate move (if that makes sense) - and a key to understanding how she moves in is in the volume data.

Just for jollies though I'd bet M. we see 1.30 before we see 1.50 - hey he's rich he can afford to spot me...

500 sure .. I made that on gu tonight in asia ...lol (in my dreams)
eu is so boring compared to gu which is NUTS
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  • #205,277
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:12am Mar 3, 2010 12:12am
Quoting malcolmb14
the thing is pros seem to be buying at low but then they stop , not even supporting price , allowing it to drop back into their buy zone . This is accumulation of the best kind and the kind of stuff that IF I am not making this up and my bias is not wrong could lead to a 1500 pip up move....
If you're right, and this does happen, what's the purpose?....to help the troubled EU countries? And what happens when all is good in the EU zone....these big players sell the euros which would lead to an equally massive drop?

Or am I looking at this wrong?
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  • #205,278
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:14am Mar 3, 2010 12:14am
Quoting Mr Hatch
this assumption would make the market pretty predictable for the forseeable future... were there no news, which - if positive for the euro - would take the accumulation one step further up. repeating this accumulation one price range higher, buying the lows and letting it fall back again - now, this is what i call real trading. long way to go 'til i'm there.
this is why I mentioned 2 weeks back buying all dips ... goldman sachs bots and I are buddies lol
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  • #205,279
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:16am Mar 3, 2010 12:16am
Quoting malcolmb14
this is why I mentioned 2 weeks back buying all dips ... goldman sachs bots and I are buddies lol
woot... what do you consider a dip? for me, it's like 50 pips.
  • #205,280
  • Mar 3, 2010 12:17am Mar 3, 2010 12:17am
Quoting Mr Hatch
woot... what do you consider a dip? for me, it's like 50 pips.

1.3500 / 1.,3450 , that is where pros are buying
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