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  • #10,241
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:50am Feb 24, 2010 6:50am
Quoting traderathome
Now, that is a thought. Would need to involve coding fractals....previous most significant high/low, and price deviation from Dragon (which I already coded). If price deviation from Dragon is not too great (user inputs pip limit) and price has reached last fractal H/L, then bell rings.....GO button lights up!.....and account balance flashes in bright bold green numbers!

Edit:...

I see T. No rush. I will just use the NVO for now.

Wow, you have been BUSY!
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And how many pips do we need to lose to win the Rubber Ducky from our brokers?

That reminds me, Sonic owes me a rubber duck for the 10,000 poster.
Starting to see instead of just looking.
  • #10,242
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:52am Feb 24, 2010 6:52am
Quoting traderathome
Now, that is a thought. Would need to involve coding fractals....previous most significant high/low, and price deviation from Dragon (which I already coded). If price deviation from Dragon is not too great (user inputs pip limit) and price has reached last fractal H/L, then bell rings.....GO button lights up!.....and account balance flashes in bright bold green numbers!

So, it is constructed or not? it is there hope or not?
  • #10,243
  • Feb 24, 2010 7:06am Feb 24, 2010 7:06am
now a beautiful reverse setup
i put 2 orders...of course when 1 was triggered..delete the other one..
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  • #10,244
  • Feb 24, 2010 7:07am Feb 24, 2010 7:07am
EU:

Care to guess which way it is going to be moved today? I drew two orange vertical lines flagging PA to sudden increased trading. Look below. Sonicdeejay already figured it out!
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  • #10,245
  • Feb 24, 2010 7:10am Feb 24, 2010 7:10am
Living Dangerously..

http://i49.tinypic.com/fayh3o.jpg

Sonic
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  • #10,246
  • Feb 24, 2010 7:24am Feb 24, 2010 7:24am
EU and GU:

Both show signature PA spikes down earlier amidst heavy trading. US open traders seem to be following suit by doing the "go the other way first" move. Not unusual. Why should they be left out?
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  • #10,247
  • Feb 24, 2010 7:27am Feb 24, 2010 7:27am
Quoting traderathome
EU:

Care to guess which way it is going to be moved today? I drew two orange vertical lines flagging PA to sudden increased trading. Look below. Sonicdeejay already figured it out!
trend down => high probability go down... i prefer to go short if there s opportunity

on H4 resistance near 1.3567 (short from here?)
  • #10,248
  • Feb 24, 2010 7:57am Feb 24, 2010 7:57am
Quoting mistersimple
another example GA

now bottom line:
in 2days of testing still pretty good results...however losses DO occur !! it's not holy grail..

live trading is a bit different i took several losses (micro account actually) but still confident
brekouts with SL very well explained in Igrok's book (Igrok method)..you can find it

btw im less and less lookin at THV ..
caution today with New home sales

thnks again to the author
"btw im less and less lookin at THV .." - mistersimple

When I saw this line, I thought something more needed to be said. But before I do, let me state for the record that "Cobra" and I are friends and I have colaborated with him in a small way on the THV project, and will continue to assist in any way that I might be qualified to, if asked. I also consider Sonicdeejay and myself to be friends. And I would assist him on SonicR in any way that I might be qualified to, if asked.

What I want to say is that there is no "best" trading system, or method. Why? Because people are different, one from another, with different personalities, skills and levels of discipline. A "this method" may be better for one group of individuals, while a "that method" is better for a different group, for those very reasons stated.

THV is a superlative method, originally designed for scalping. And it has brought together a core of superlatiave folks....Cobra, Miss Pips, Caveman, Stratman, Doblece.....the list goes on and on. And the system certainly does not lack supporting technical indicators, some of which involve quite complex programming. Yet some fail while others succeed with the system.

SonicR is a superlative method, originally designed for trading the potentially larger moves signalled on the H4 PA and set up on the M15. And it has brought together a core of superlative folks....Sonicdeejay, Ddaytrader, Domas4, Basber, Rastaman.....the list goes on and on. And the system certainly does not lack supporting technical indicators, some of which involve quite complex programming. Yet some fail while others succeed with the system.

My point is this, one very important aspect of trading is to find a system/method that fits you, your "style", your personality, your current skill and diciipline levels.....and grow from there, maybe even eventually to a different system/method, as you change/mature as a trader.

These two systems/methods, SonicR and THV, certainly are sound, and offer good support to those involved and trying to grow. And they are different enough that, between them, a broad variety of people are accomodated.
  • #10,249
  • Feb 24, 2010 8:05am Feb 24, 2010 8:05am
Quoting mistersimple
trend down => high probability go down... i prefer to go short if there s opportunity

on H4 resistance near 1.3567 (short from here?)
You could be correct. However, trends change. And when they do, the players want time to "restructure" their positions. This may be happening now. Or, maybe not. Just something to factor in. The nice thing about SonicR is that we are not trying to too quickly "jump on the band wagon". We wait for setups and trade what the market shows us.
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  • #10,250
  • Feb 24, 2010 8:05am Feb 24, 2010 8:05am
Too freaky for me to trade.
I think I am going to do as Basber is and wait it out.

The market will still be there in the morning when I get up.

Actually, I am going to open a bottle of Beaujolais I was saving to celebrate my 0.1 account loss. And kick the market's butt tomorrow.



LoL
Starting to see instead of just looking.
  • #10,251
  • Feb 24, 2010 8:14am Feb 24, 2010 8:14am
GU:

This M5 charts shows why maybe GU will move higher....that maybe the current price move down is nothing more than "posturing" for a move up. See how the trading activity increased as the price declined (buy low, sell high). This does not mean the price will not be dropped further, but it does show that in each drop movement, there is more trading interest at the lower prices. But, anything can happen.

SonicR - Trade what the market decides to give us.
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  • #10,252
  • Feb 24, 2010 8:23am Feb 24, 2010 8:23am
Quoting Rastaman
Too freaky for me to trade.
I think I am going to do as Basber is and wait it out.

The market will still be there in the morning when I get up.

Actually, I am going to open a bottle of Beaujolais I was saving to celebrate my 0.1 account loss. And kick the market's butt tomorrow.



LoL
i torture myself with Perrier here....waitnig for breakout or something...

i want to mention that in my GU short, i close it for +1 pips...by mistake i put the SL with more than 100 pips above the level i intented to.......
  • #10,253
  • Feb 24, 2010 8:24am Feb 24, 2010 8:24am
yeah u r right...in no way i said thv was bad...it's a GOOD system... and showing me on D1 EU divergence (thv rsi_v2)... that why i m a bit nervous..
  • #10,254
  • Feb 24, 2010 8:51am Feb 24, 2010 8:51am
Quoting traderathome
GU:

This M5 charts shows why maybe GU will move higher....that maybe the current price move down is nothing more than "posturing" for a move up. See how the trading activity increased as the price declined (buy low, sell high). This does not mean the price will not be dropped further, but it does show that in each drop movement, there is more trading interest at the lower prices. But, anything can happen.

SonicR - Trade what the market decides to give us.
Here is a follow-up (chart 2) to the PA action described previously (chart 1).
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  • #10,255
  • Edited 9:52am Feb 24, 2010 9:39am | Edited 9:52am
GU:

Looks good for setting up a long trade. You can see how activity (green) picked up at price lows, and then soared as price started up from lows. And you can see the "tails" on the candles.....very bullish.

Edit: And off she goes.......(chart 2)
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  • #10,256
  • Feb 24, 2010 9:52am Feb 24, 2010 9:52am
dont know where to put this ..look at this FXCM' demo acc. LOL!! any comments?
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  • #10,257
  • Feb 24, 2010 9:56am Feb 24, 2010 9:56am
Quoting mistersimple
dont know where to put this ..look at this FXCM' demo acc. LOL!! any comments?
The only comment I have is.....I don't understand what it is you are trying to ask!
  • #10,258
  • Feb 24, 2010 10:00am Feb 24, 2010 10:00am
Quoting traderathome
The only comment I have is.....I don't understand what it is you are trying to ask!
haha is it normal 2.19 in AU???
  • #10,259
  • Feb 24, 2010 10:01am Feb 24, 2010 10:01am
GU:

PA up to test main pivot, then pullback for more buying.....a good opportunity for entry, imho. Time will tell.

Edit: Considering all the preparations for a move, it could turn out to be a good one. I raised TPs, but will manually activate for time being.....need to see, if this moves, how well it moves.
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  • #10,260
  • Feb 24, 2010 10:21am Feb 24, 2010 10:21am
GU:

Bored. So humor me for introducing more speculation.......

It looks like the "players" are not yet willing to let this escape from its range. Up on heavy trading, then back down on light trading. Why back down? To resume heavy buying at the lows again, of course. They are stocking up on long positions. How long will it take? Answer: How long will it take to fool others into short trades so they can take the long side of those trades?

Ok, back to reality. Still, there is no way to be certain which way it will go, though subjective clues would indicate upwards.

SonicR - Trade what the market decides.
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