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  • #10,221
  • Edited 6:35am Feb 24, 2010 4:49am | Edited 6:35am
Quoting tulis
Hi sonicers,

What do you think about this?
Hi Tulis,

Be Careful Of The Level That I Drew In Red ... It May Cause Shorts Some Problems ... If It Breaks , It's a Good Chance For Price To Drop.

Anyway, I'll Not Trade Today, Until I See a Very Good Setup. Maybe At NY Session.

Regards,
Basber
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Trading methods are designed to put the odds in our favor, not predicting.
  • #10,222
  • Feb 24, 2010 4:52am Feb 24, 2010 4:52am
Quoting Basber


P.S. : Ignore My Message If This Conditions Doesn't Concern You. Although I Believe It Contains Every Single Trader ...
I know you are right, maybe i am the drunk man who said *i am not drunk*
  • #10,223
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:00am Feb 24, 2010 5:00am
Quoting LittleTrader
How do you use NVO to filter out the fakeouts ?
I've Learnt It From TAH. I Think It's Better To Hear From Him ...

Regards,
Basber
Trading methods are designed to put the odds in our favor, not predicting.
  • #10,224
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:00am Feb 24, 2010 5:00am
GU M15:

Entered long. While trading has picked up as a whole, I am seeing some instances of highest trading at lowest prices. Am monitoring and keeping watch on PA and my SL, which is mental at this point.
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  • #10,225
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:01am Feb 24, 2010 5:01am
Basber, there is no pic in the last post about the red line you drew also there is no pic in the email I got.
Starting to see instead of just looking.
  • #10,226
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:07am Feb 24, 2010 5:07am
Quoting traderathome
GU M15:

Entered long. While trading has picked up as a whole, I am seeing some instances of highest trading at lowest prices. Am monitoring and keeping watch on PA and my SL, which is mental at this point.

Mybe it is just me, but i dont see any waves for long trade, any sonicR setup here...
  • #10,227
  • Edited 5:32am Feb 24, 2010 5:21am | Edited 5:32am
Quoting DanPa
Mybe it is just me, but i dont see any waves for long trade, any sonicR setup here...
It might have happened. Fruit picked not quite ripe....needs a bit more time, I guess. Translation: The big boys are gobbling up, but slowly so as to not pump the price up on themselves until they are fully loaded. And, there is the US gang to worry about. They will want in on this too......

Ok, there is the speculation for the day. Back to trading what we see. And what I see is that the entry was ok, but as sometimes happens, it was a false start. So, back to monitoring it. And if it does not move before US open, maybe those traders will be what everyone is waiting for?

Edit: As stated, SL is mental. Second pic shows the mental state I am in. US open might be hairy. Even if this is destined to go up, they might first go the other way. How far?
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  • #10,228
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:30am Feb 24, 2010 5:30am
Quoting traderathome
It might have happened....

About that movement ...Basber told me that i should not take into consideration waves on bars...but you know better then me!

Regards,
DanPa
  • #10,229
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:36am Feb 24, 2010 5:36am
Quoting DanPa
About that movement ...Basber told me that i should not take into consideration waves on bars...but you know better then me!

Regards,
DanPa
No, Basber is correct. For my eagerness, the false start caught me. Now I am in and it is going nowhere. And even if it does eventually go up, if that is the REAL move today, I may have to deal with a preliminary move the other way. And what if it is not a preliminary move? What if the REAL move IS down? See, if I had not entered, I would not be concerned about these things now, and with money on the table. I Let the "W" influence me.
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  • #10,230
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:39am Feb 24, 2010 5:39am
Quoting Basber
MS,

Could You Please Put Lines On Waves That You Saw, So I Can See What Wave Pattern You See And Entered On M5 ?

M15 In Much More Recommended Than M5. I Don't Trade M5. Because I Don't Like It's Tight TP ... Also M15 Is More Reliable.

Regards,
Basber
ok look yday's chart
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  • #10,231
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:41am Feb 24, 2010 5:41am
and here is continuation difference m5 and m15 ..fortunately it turned in my way
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  • #10,232
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:43am Feb 24, 2010 5:43am
here is AJ just take a look at difference in m5/m15
m5 is more suitable for agressive
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  • #10,233
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:49am Feb 24, 2010 5:49am
another example GA

now bottom line:
in 2days of testing still pretty good results...however losses DO occur !! it's not holy grail..

live trading is a bit different i took several losses (micro account actually) but still confident
brekouts with SL very well explained in Igrok's book (Igrok method)..you can find it

btw im less and less lookin at THV ..
caution today with New home sales

thnks again to the author
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  • #10,234
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:51am Feb 24, 2010 5:51am
Rastaman, you and I were just too eager. Now look at UJ. Traders may be putting a Double Bottom in on this. Up from here? Time yet before any new setup occurs, though. Maybe look for US open to lead the way.
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  • #10,235
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:08am Feb 24, 2010 6:08am
Quoting traderathome
Rastaman, you and I were just too eager. Now look at UJ. Traders may be putting a Double Bottom in on this. Up from here? Time yet before any new setup occurs, though. Maybe look for US open to lead the way.
Yes, T

I think I was a bit too eager and jumped the gun.

Still, there is always another trade.

That said, the freakishness is still around for some reason, I mean the way PA is acting.

By the way T.

Is that a new clock indi and a new volume indi?
When you have time, could you possibly post them?

would be interested to hear how to use the volume indi to filter out these fake outs. Maybe Basber can tell me if you have already shown him how.

Thanks in advance.
Starting to see instead of just looking.
  • #10,236
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:16am Feb 24, 2010 6:16am
What if someone with very good skills (programmer) will design some ringing bells for SonicR....just to to attract attention when an possible setup it is forming...!?

It*s just my ideea ..
  • #10,237
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:23am Feb 24, 2010 6:23am
Quoting DanPa
What if someone with very good skills (programmer) will design some ringing bells for SonicR....just to to attract attention when an possible setup it is forming...!?

It*s just my ideea ..

Haaaaaaaa Dp, that cracked me up as I had the same idea a long time ago.

Did you just jump to sonic's step 2?

Have you read those 5 steps?


If we have the bells, we will be like the trained laboratory rat.
Bell rings, push button, get a tasty treat.
Bell rings, push button, lose your account.

LOL

It is great.
Starting to see instead of just looking.
  • #10,238
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:28am Feb 24, 2010 6:28am
Quoting Rastaman
Yes, T

I think I was a bit too eager and jumped the gun.

Still, there is always another trade.

That said, the freakishness is still around for some reason, I mean the way PA is acting.

By the way T.

Is that a new clock indi and a new volume indi?
When you have time, could you possibly post them?

would be interested to hear how to use the volume indi to filter out these fake outs. Maybe Basber can tell me if you have already shown him how.

Thanks in advance.
The six lines of time/city are from P4L Clock. I wrote an indy to place a background beside the TzPivotsD Data Panel, on which to place these six lines. I re-wrote the Market Bold Price Label indy (handles 4&5 digit systems), and use it to place the price above the time/city lines.

I wrote a SonicR Dragon Combo indy to do both the Dragon and the Trend MAs, as well as a price Deviation Label. It shows the price offset from the center of the Dragon....upper right on some of my charts, lower left on some.

I wrote a new "Trades Count" indy, in the same fashion as the NVO. I fixed the code from the original NVO that was causing run error loggings in the MT4 Experts tab. And I added the labels. I also coded to pick up the actual trade count on each incoming tic. Normally there is just one per tic. But when more come in per tic, and PA is at lows/highs, it can be a clue of what it to come.

I have been thinking of posting some of this....new template/indys, but it is all not quite ready yet. And I do not want to clutter the SonicR method with extraneous indys. Anyway, it all needs a bit more attention first.
  • #10,239
  • Feb 24, 2010 6:30am Feb 24, 2010 6:30am
Quoting Rastaman
Haaaaaaaa Dp, that cracked me up as I had the same idea a long time ago.

Did you just jump to sonic's step 2?

Have you read those 5 steps?


If we have the bells, we will be like the trained laboratory rat.
Bell rings, push button, get a tasty treat.
Bell rings, push button, lose your account.

LOL

It is great.
So, what happened with your ideea? ... oh, i see ..
  • #10,240
  • Edited 6:52am Feb 24, 2010 6:36am | Edited 6:52am
Quoting DanPa
What if someone with very good skills (programmer) will design some ringing bells for SonicR....just to to attract attention when an possible setup it is forming...!?

It*s just my ideea ..
Now, that is a thought. Would need to involve coding fractals....previous most significant high/low, and price deviation from Dragon (which I already coded). If price deviation from Dragon is not too great (user inputs pip limit) and price has reached last fractal H/L, then bell rings.....GO button lights up!.....and account balance flashes in bright bold green numbers!

Edit: Suppose we just had the ability to enter a pip number, say 25. If PA reached 25 pips from the center of the Dragon, the bell would ring. Would that do? I mean, if we go back and look at valid EPs, how many pips out from the Dragon centerline are they usually? When the bell rings, we can bring up the chart of the pair the alert is for, and quickly view the wave situation, to see if there is a trade possibility. It is kind of manual, but a start? Look at GU. If I were to do it, I would put in "29" pips. If PA extends out in either direction that much, then maybe a trade is brewing.
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