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  • #29,701
  • Jan 20, 2010 1:28pm Jan 20, 2010 1:28pm
Quoting The Captain
I need to start holding the HTF trades longer. I get in positive territory and I start getting an itchy trigger finger.
That is why I said you left off a very important part of your great analysis. You don't want to have a premature withdrawal. Cisco knows a lot about that subject.
  • #29,702
  • Jan 20, 2010 1:49pm Jan 20, 2010 1:49pm
Quoting PippiNole
That is why I said you left off a very important part of your great analysis. You don't want to have a premature withdrawal. Cisco knows a lot about that subject.
I NEED HELP ON THIS TOOOOOOO.

How do you guys know when a trade will move? Most of the time when I wanted to hold a trade it stop me out @ BE. And whenever I decided to quite on time and bank pips hoping it will retrace it will move like mad.

For example,, I got in Temptress @ 1.4407 move stop loss to 1.4406 after 24 pips and close manually @ 1.4382! This is absolutely crazy! I was then looking for where to reenter. Dispite the fact that I know it was a breakout. I could still not enter because I was looking for a smaller stop loss.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOOD AND EXCELLENT IS ATTENTION TO DETAILS.
  • #29,703
  • Jan 20, 2010 1:55pm Jan 20, 2010 1:55pm
Quoting PippiNole
That is why I said you left off a very important part of your great analysis. You don't want to have a premature withdrawal. Cisco knows a lot about that subject.
You old guys should just be happy that any sort of withdrawal is still possible!
Cap
  • #29,704
  • Jan 20, 2010 2:05pm Jan 20, 2010 2:05pm
Quoting ejiexe
I NEED HELP ON THIS TOOOOOOO.

How do you guys know when a trade will move? Most of the time when I wanted to hold a trade it stop me out @ BE. And whenever I decided to quite on time and bank pips hoping it will retrace it will move like mad.

For example,, I got in Temptress @ 1.4407 move stop loss to 1.4406 after 24 pips and close manually @ 1.4382! This is absolutely crazy! I was then looking for where to reenter. Dispite the fact that I know it was a breakout. I could still not enter because I was looking for a smaller stop loss.
Nice entry but why did you close it all out at 4382? She was painting a bearish flag on the 4hr chart and was bound to break as you said. So you want to look on your HTF charts to see where buyers will most likely be on the way down. There was an obvious area on the 4hr chart at 426x and if you look at your chart you will see price did retrace in that area to about 4300. This is where I added on to my shorts. You could have gotten back in around 4300 with a tight stop above the 50 ema on the 15 min chart.
  • #29,705
  • Jan 20, 2010 2:21pm Jan 20, 2010 2:21pm
Quoting The Captain
You old guys should just be happy that any sort of withdrawal is still possible!
Alright who are you calling old? Just because Cisco is older than dirt he tries to make people believe I'm near his age. Hell his walker is older than me!
  • #29,706
  • Jan 20, 2010 2:41pm Jan 20, 2010 2:41pm
Quoting ejiexe
I NEED HELP ON THIS TOOOOOOO.

How do you guys know when a trade will move? Most of the time when I wanted to hold a trade it stop me out @ BE. And whenever I decided to quite on time and bank pips hoping it will retrace it will move like mad.

For example,, I got in Temptress @ 1.4407 move stop loss to 1.4406 after 24 pips and close manually @ 1.4382! This is absolutely crazy! I was then looking for where to reenter. Dispite the fact that I know it was a breakout. I could still not enter because I was looking for a smaller stop loss.
Hehe I know exactly what you mean. I want to take a htf trade and in the end it's a scalp because the price comes back from <+20 to break even.
  • #29,707
  • Jan 20, 2010 2:54pm Jan 20, 2010 2:54pm
Quoting PippiNole
Alright who are you calling old? Just because Cisco is older than dirt he tries to make people believe I'm near his age. Hell his walker is older than me!
Pippi, just because I'm nosey and you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but when was the last time you had a losing day?
  • #29,708
  • Jan 20, 2010 4:04pm Jan 20, 2010 4:04pm
Quoting PippiNole
You don't want to have a premature withdrawal. Cisco knows a lot about that subject.
...Said the Viagra dependent Octogenarian!

Don't let Pippi fool you all. He married a woman 25 years younger than he is and he needs something to keep his love life going. Hence the Viagra. Even that isn't working too well from what he's told me confidentially. I told him to look into one of those implantable pumps. It worked for my grandfather so it should work for Pippi, too, considering they're of a similar age.
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #29,709
  • Jan 20, 2010 4:06pm Jan 20, 2010 4:06pm
Quoting PippiNole
Alright who are you calling old? Just because Cisco is older than dirt he tries to make people believe I'm near his age.
He's right, folks. He's nowhere near my age...he's much, much older!
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #29,710
  • Jan 20, 2010 4:07pm Jan 20, 2010 4:07pm
Quoting luckylady
Pippi, just because I'm nosey and you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but when was the last time you had a losing day?
When he tried to seduce a lady in his nursing home. She turned him down flat!
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #29,711
  • Jan 20, 2010 5:17pm Jan 20, 2010 5:17pm
Quoting cisco
When he tried to seduce a lady in his nursing home. She turned him down flat!


nice one!
  • #29,712
  • Jan 20, 2010 7:27pm Jan 20, 2010 7:27pm
Quoting luckylady
Pippi, just because I'm nosey and you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but when was the last time you had a losing day?
If I answer your question will you answer any question I ask you?
  • #29,713
  • Jan 20, 2010 7:35pm Jan 20, 2010 7:35pm
Ok Cisco you know how EO always posts areas where he thinks price will go by saying 167x, well I'm calling you out on your birth year by doing the same. My birth year is 197x and yours would be?
  • #29,714
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:33pm Jan 20, 2010 8:33pm
Quoting PippiNole
My birth year is 197x
That's a good one, bro!

That reminds me of when Slick Willie Clinton said (wagging finger) "I did not have sex with that woman."
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #29,715
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:43pm Jan 20, 2010 8:43pm
Quoting cisco
That's a good one, bro!

That reminds me of when Slick Willie Clinton said (wagging finger) "I did not have sex with that woman."
He didn't, that's not sex!
  • #29,716
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:47pm Jan 20, 2010 8:47pm
Quoting PippiNole
He didn't, that's not sex!
Unfortunately, that's the message that school kids received out of the whole thing. Even grade school kids are getting caught doing the Clinton.
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #29,717
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:50pm Jan 20, 2010 8:50pm
Quoting cisco
Unfortunately, that's the message that school kids received out of the whole thing. Even grade school kids are getting caught doing the Clinton.
I guess they just aren't quite as discrete as when you were in grade school.
  • #29,718
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:52pm Jan 20, 2010 8:52pm
Good evening Pippi and Cisco, i hope you been grabbing pips
" When the ship starts to sink, don't just pray. JUMP "
  • #29,719
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:54pm Jan 20, 2010 8:54pm
Quoting PippiNole
I guess they just aren't quite as discrete as when you were in grade school.
I was a virgin until I was married!

At this point I think I'll head to confession...and I'm not even a Catholic.

Night all
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #29,720
  • Jan 20, 2010 8:56pm Jan 20, 2010 8:56pm
Quoting Gladis Night
Good evening Pippi and Cisco, i hope you been grabbing pips
Good evening Gladis! I managed to grab a couple of pips today how about you?
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