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  • #182,861
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:05pm Jan 20, 2010 12:05pm
Quoting ninjafx
but guys do you think we have reached some level of exhaustion today on eurusd?

Why not till 1.4040 (EMA120 Weekly) or 1.4055 (Pivot Daily S3) ?
  • #182,862
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:05pm Jan 20, 2010 12:05pm
long at 14103

  • #182,863
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:06pm Jan 20, 2010 12:06pm
tt_danu
Is this what you're looking for: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kLMqwSvE&pos=2
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  • #182,864
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:06pm Jan 20, 2010 12:06pm
Quoting PriceVolume
"Free" traders don't move the market. Private and Public Institutions and Big Players do. I think you have a valid point regarding the bounded rationality of "Free" traders - which is one reason I largely ignore Fundies. I trade from a purely technical PA perspective.
perhaps...just perhaps
in some day's and some hours we the free ones are alone in front of the monitor......we have our moments.....not verry big....but we push the wagon some times.....
devide the amount of money every day on the market by 100...and see how many lots are daily on the market and then devide on 24 hours...and see an average of money per hour on the market.....how many lots? woldwide?might be interesting
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  • #182,865
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:07pm Jan 20, 2010 12:07pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Yep. Aug 10 2008 ring a bell, though? Things are lining up in much a similar fashion......at least on the daily timeframe...
if you go through past post. ive been looking for this for 6 months. the rule of 72 says % wise divided into 72, the time it takes for something to double. using this according to what china said over the last few years. they must have several trillian people. if you add up the %'s they say their gdp has grown over the years.. its bs to me.. so all that foreign money there may be in jepardy. their housing values were going up sometimes hundreds of a % a year. this will not stand.. they had to stop it. but now that they have stopped it.it would only have gotten worse. its just like 2008 in u.s. and europe when the credit dried up.. we will c if they can handle it better then we did. either way usd will rise.
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  • #182,866
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:07pm Jan 20, 2010 12:07pm
Quoting tt_danu
u could be right.......but i think it's a little more complicated than that....
such a mouve should be in days not aproximatly 200 pips in one single day.....200 pips it's like a verry big shock .....perhaps it's a encouraged mouve from other parts.200 it's a bit too much in one day 4 this reason.....
i have a question 4 u all....how many of the ''free'' traders have echonomic studies finished? how many can really understand what's going on with one country's finance? i belive that much of the market's reaction id due to the free traders that react...
I am and economics major from UCLA graduate... So i know the econ behind it... and things that should be good for a currency sometimes are not reflected in the markets, except high impact data and that can still surprise you like the last NFP numbers...And about data google what ever you need, Swiss have very detail info for their country and in some cases for other countries too...You can find the data directly from the source like I do...
  • #182,867
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:09pm Jan 20, 2010 12:09pm
Quoting gatorinla
sure commodities will fall, but so will euro purchasing power. china is full of a cheap stock pile of commodities. they will make crap and sell it to u.s. with a higher usd.
Commodities

#1 at the bottom level

#2 will fall if we entering into 2nd phase of recession again.

AS of now commodities are cheap, double cheap compare to pick 2007-2008.
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  • #182,868
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:10pm Jan 20, 2010 12:10pm
Quoting kilalik
I am and economics major from UCLA graduate... So i know the econ behind it... and things that should be good for a currency sometimes are not reflected in the markets, except high impact data and that can still surprise you like the last NFP numbers...And about data google what ever you need, Swiss have very detail info for their country and in some cases for other countries too...You can find the data directly from the source like I do...
can i know got which link i can read data and source?
  • #182,869
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:11pm Jan 20, 2010 12:11pm
Quoting bug
tt_danu
Is this what you're looking for: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kLMqwSvE&pos=2
Hmm...the Chinese can't seem to agree with one another over the new rules: Beijing denies new rules

I think there is more to it than just China. I don't have the data to prove it (only a few large banks do), but I think the move was as fast and hard as it was due to the carry trade. Hot money!
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  • #182,870
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:15pm Jan 20, 2010 12:15pm
Quoting special0nefx
can i know got which link i can read data and source?
US:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/moneta...ndars.htm#2868
http://www.bls.gov/sae/790sced.htm State & Area Current Employment Statistics Press Release Schedule
http://www.bea.gov/ U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) - bea.gov Home Page (on this one you can get emails of release about 5 minutes after release)
http://www.bls.gov/

UK
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/
http://www.bba.org.uk/bba/jsp/polopo..._WwTAm7e?d=103

Euro
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/por...eurostat/home/
http://www.ecb.int/home/html/index.en.html

Swiss
http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/en/index.html

CAD
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/start-debut-eng.html

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  • #182,871
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:16pm Jan 20, 2010 12:16pm
I think we should have some bulls for the next 30-45 minutes to test higher, but i could be dead wrong...
  • #182,872
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:17pm Jan 20, 2010 12:17pm
Quoting bug
tt_danu
Is this what you're looking for: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kLMqwSvE&pos=2

just a news....interesting...but still.....no real data

in december i said here that the battle is for export....u can't repair the defficit with speculation.....u have to export in order to cover and repair the defficit....and still in december i said here that usa i heard that is changing auto production lines for smaller engines 2l and 1.8 l.......china is just taking the moment.....but there will be no winner....usa and eu.....simply change import rules ....activ protecting theyr own industry.....it is a matter discusset for year that eu should block or limit imports from china.....just a paper to sign.... usa could do easy the same.....
states have learned a long time ago.....what to sacrifice and when.....i for example support restrictions by ue for imports from china....let's hope they do.....
IT'S ALL ,,,, Only money in the bank count
  • #182,873
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:18pm Jan 20, 2010 12:18pm
anyone know free gold spot website???
a good one and free...
  • #182,874
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:18pm Jan 20, 2010 12:18pm
Quoting tt_danu
u could be right.......but i think it's a little more complicated than that....
such a mouve should be in days not aproximatly 200 pips in one single day.....200 pips it's like a verry big shock .....perhaps it's a encouraged mouve from other parts.200 it's a bit too much in one day 4 this reason.....
i have a question 4 u all....how many of the ''free'' traders have echonomic studies finished? how many can really understand what's going on with one country's finance? i belive that much of the market's reaction id due to the free traders that react...
ask anyone who owns a business... this is how it works. we would all put our competition out of business if we could buy our inventory cheaper then our competition. then we would sell it cheaper. if competition cant sell at one price, then they lower the price. if they have to sell it cheaper then made. then they close the doors. its basic business 1001... china is doing it as a country.

free trade aint free. if it makes you weaker. and your competition stronger. then your cost goes up.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #182,875
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:21pm Jan 20, 2010 12:21pm
Quoting gatorinla
ask anyone who owns a business... this is how it works. we would all put our competition out of business if we could buy our inventory cheaper then our competition. then we would sell it cheaper. if competition cant sell at one price, then they lower the price. if they have to sell it cheaper then made. then they close the doors. its basic business 1001... china is doing it as a country.

free trade aint free. if it makes you weaker. and your competition stronger. then your cost goes up.
Chineese feel like they have grown enough to let this "free trade" between 7 asian countiries would benefit all but mainly the other 6 countries then CHina, but china will benefit only in cheaper raw materials which will fuel China's growth...
  • #182,876
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:21pm Jan 20, 2010 12:21pm
Quoting SkyzerFX
Commodities

#1 at the bottom level

#2 will fall if we entering into 2nd phase of recession again.

AS of now commodities are cheap, double cheap compare to pick 2007-2008.
so... they were overpriced then too.. they are only worth what you can sell them for at any given day. at one time silver was cheap at 30$ an ounce too
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  • #182,877
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:22pm Jan 20, 2010 12:22pm
Wow that's a lot , i going to make my brain explose but will read it for more details. Thanks for the link kilalik
Quoting kilalik
US:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/moneta...ndars.htm#2868
http://www.bls.gov/sae/790sced.htm State & Area Current Employment Statistics Press Release Schedule
http://www.bea.gov/ U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) - bea.gov Home Page (on this one you can get emails of release about 5 minutes after release)
http://www.bls.gov/

UK
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/
http://www.bba.org.uk/bba/jsp/polopo..._WwTAm7e?d=103

Euro
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/por...eurostat/home/
http://www.ecb.int/home/html/index.en.html...
  • #182,878
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:23pm Jan 20, 2010 12:23pm
Quoting kilalik
US:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/moneta...ndars.htm#2868
http://www.bls.gov/sae/790sced.htm State & Area Current Employment Statistics Press Release Schedule
http://www.bea.gov/ U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) - bea.gov Home Page (on this one you can get emails of release about 5 minutes after release)
http://www.bls.gov/

UK
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/
http://www.bba.org.uk/bba/jsp/polopo..._WwTAm7e?d=103

Euro
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/por...eurostat/home/
http://www.ecb.int/home/html/index.en.html...


great date...but have them......eurostat doesn't have real exact data.....just mount.....not clear.....
i must say.....i am glad that i can find people to talk to about macroechonomy.....not only charts
and i say we should have more discussions about macro......oppinion and real data.....one alone can;t stuudy the huge amounth of data....we need to centralize the data.....beetwen ourselfs
IT'S ALL ,,,, Only money in the bank count
  • #182,879
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:24pm Jan 20, 2010 12:24pm
Quoting special0nefx
Wow that's a lot , i going to make my brain explose but will read it for more details. Thanks for the link kilalik
no problem the swiss stats are really good, you can get a lot of good info not only about that country but how that affects them and others around them. US data is dry, just facts and numbers... And the eurostat is a cool website too, they have this flash program that you can pull out all kinds of data
  • #182,880
  • Jan 20, 2010 12:25pm Jan 20, 2010 12:25pm
Quoting kilalik
Chineese feel like they have grown enough to let this "free trade" between 7 asian countiries would benefit all but mainly the other 6 countries then CHina, but china will benefit only in cheaper raw materials which will fuel China's growth...
if they arent buying they will get cheaper again.. cycle continues. they controll the market.
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