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  • #10,161
  • Jan 10, 2010 8:36am Jan 10, 2010 8:36am
Appology...

No idea you were IN the group.
BR

Quoting garrye
this poster did not just pop up on the thread,and the method is as old as the hills,as for false advertising you cant see the wood for the trees no offence to you,im also a member of his group so know everything about his trades and how he trades i dont take his calls i like to make money as this is what i do fulltime. when you sell a service yes you do owe people something this is his shop window were he sells his service this is why its in the commerial section .when he was on the other thread calling live calls and e/u was trending my son could...
  • #10,162
  • Jan 10, 2010 8:42am Jan 10, 2010 8:42am
Garrye,

From your experience watching the rules being broken, do you feel it is because sticking to the rules no longer work and there is a searching going on? Or is it the discipline is to carryout the trade is not taking place - maybe in a effort to do better? Or I dunno... it just is.

Thanks for your feedback,
BR

Quoting garrye
this poster did not just pop up on the thread,and the method is as old as the hills,as for false advertising you cant see the wood for the trees no offence to you,im also a member of his group so know everything about his trades and how he trades i dont take his calls i like to make money as this is what i do fulltime. when you sell a service yes you do owe people something this is his shop window were he sells his service this is why its in the commerial section .when he was on the other thread calling live calls and e/u was trending my son could...
  • #10,163
  • Jan 10, 2010 8:43am Jan 10, 2010 8:43am
red i dont want to fight and i want to keep it real with everyone,i wish jacko would put his blog on here for a couple of months free so people can see without the hype im sure he dont need the money... just like taking a car for a road test,or better still some live trading from him and the marketing crew. im up for it
student
  • #10,164
  • Jan 10, 2010 8:47am Jan 10, 2010 8:47am
red i cannot belive some of the things ive seen him do thats not my problem i have losing trades everyone does i just will not put up with the bull that some posters do and say
student
  • #10,165
  • Edited 8:50am Jan 10, 2010 8:48am | Edited 8:50am
I understand and at least for myself, especially in light of this new information, I need more transparency.

Thank you for turning on the lights.
BR

Quoting garrye
red i dont want to fight and i want to keep it real with everyone,i wish jacko would put his blog on here for a couple of months free so people can see without the hype im sure he dont need the money... just like taking a car for a road test,or better still some live trading from him and the marketing crew. im up for it
  • #10,166
  • Jan 10, 2010 9:09am Jan 10, 2010 9:09am
Quoting garrye
this poster did not just pop up on the thread,and the method is as old as the hills,as for false advertising you cant see the wood for the trees no offence to you,im also a member of his group so know everything about his trades and how he trades i dont take his calls i like to make money as this is what i do fulltime. when you sell a service yes you do owe people something this is his shop window were he sells his service this is why its in the commerial section .when he was on the other thread calling live calls and e/u was trending my son could...
You seem to be inferring that Jacko does not make money by trading and over the last 16 months Jacko's trading results have been poor?

How will posting a pip count be useful to people when Jacko states he is not a signal service and that the point of the private group is for newbies to learn how he trades, to see how he analyses the markets, to learn and watch how a trader handles trades live, adapts with the changing market conditions and see how a fund manager works in real life. Thus allowing members to adapt and progress as their own trader and develop their own individual style with the help and guidance of a mentor behind them.

I'm not sure what the point of your post is and how it is helpful to people on this thread and it is just a personal attack which is somewhat unfounded.

Lastly, how often do you see Jacko here aggresively trying to sell his service i.e. the private group...it's the same with the James16 group...you have no way of knowing whether Jim is a successfull trader and you dont get signals or anything like that in his private group, but why do people still join up in their droves and how many people come away having developed and learnt so much more about what it means to be a successful trader.

I don't mind negative constructive posts, but wild personal attacks that do not have any relevance are totally unprofessional and uncalled for on this forum...and you wonder why people like Jacko and others leave these forums, don't post their trades, blogs, insights...there are so many people willing to jump, critiscise and attack at the first opportunity
  • #10,167
  • Jan 10, 2010 9:11am Jan 10, 2010 9:11am
Quoting arrowloopboy
Mick,

Tried to PM you,with no joy.
As the newest member of Jacko's group,i'd like to ask you a few questions,if that i'd be o.k .

Regards

Arrow ( Co.Wexford )
did you get your answers mate, if not im here to help on here or pm no problem
student
  • #10,168
  • Jan 10, 2010 9:13am Jan 10, 2010 9:13am
Quoting Big1red9
Garrye,

From your experience watching the rules being broken, do you feel it is because sticking to the rules no longer work and there is a searching going on? Or is it the discipline is to carryout the trade is not taking place - maybe in a effort to do better? Or I dunno... it just is.

Thanks for your feedback,
BR
...it's not 'rules' being broken, it's adapting to changing market conditions. What are the 'rules' about...trendlines, support, resistance, round numbers and the 50% fib...very simple tools..they are not rules it is a methodology using these where discretion is needed...otherwise we could have turned this into an EA.
  • #10,169
  • Jan 10, 2010 9:15am Jan 10, 2010 9:15am
Quoting garrye
well with the amount of false marketing that goes on.i disagree with you i think he makes more money from his service than his trading i have seen all the trades and quite shocked by last weeks trading schoolboy errors .the big thing is people join because they are led to belive even though he has not got a signal service.why not copy this legend of a trader trades come on everyone on here is making a mint yes he has not had a losing year i have never had a losing week 1 pip is still a profit,i feel its time to show a monthly pip count...
Based on what exactly?
  • #10,170
  • Jan 10, 2010 9:35am Jan 10, 2010 9:35am
Quoting lovejoy80
You seem to be inferring that Jacko does not make money by trading and over the last 16 months Jacko's trading results have been poor?

How will posting a pip count be useful to people when Jacko states he is not a signal service and that the point of the private group is for newbies to learn how he trades, to see how he analyses the markets, to learn and watch how a trader handles trades live, adapts with the changing market conditions and see how a fund manager works in real life. Thus allowing members to adapt and progress as their own trader...
lovejoy one because he makes his money selling a service 2 because my background is marketing and sales .you dont see jacko doing it.go look at fxtrader29 marketing for the service got his own thread.open your eyes.then go look at fosho14 ,im not the one trying to take people for a ride.wild personal attacks where my friend read my posts from the start,as for relevance what do you know, maybe you belive in santa im on the inside looking out not the other way around,like i said you dont see the wood for the trees,as for a pip count lets get real ok talk about % who does 200 lots and sells a service,a pip count is more important ok say jacko made 150 pips in the last six months at 200 lots not bad money if your only doing 10lots 1 lot or 10p a pip alot of difference.like most things talk is cheap and your talking with emotion not fact.fancy some live trading
student
  • #10,171
  • Jan 10, 2010 9:41am Jan 10, 2010 9:41am
Quoting lovejoy80
Based on what exactly?
sorry u dont belive in santa just ea,s just looked at some of ur posts.
student
  • #10,172
  • Jan 10, 2010 10:23am Jan 10, 2010 10:23am
As Ed Seykota once said "win or lose, everybody gets what they want out
of the market."
I'm not joining in anymore - lets just say that we should agree to dis-agree.
I spend £95.00 PER HOUR having my car serviced - so spending £400 PER YEAR
getting some insights is a no-brainer for me.

I wish everybody success with the bickering.
I'll just go after the money
Keith
  • #10,173
  • Jan 10, 2010 10:53am Jan 10, 2010 10:53am
Quoting fenlander
As Ed Seykota once said "win or lose, everybody gets what they want out
of the market."
I'm not joining in anymore - lets just say that we should agree to dis-agree.
I spend £95.00 PER HOUR having my car serviced - so spending £400 PER YEAR
getting some insights is a no-brainer for me.

I wish everybody success with the bickering.
I'll just go after the money
Keith
going to do the same keith best of luck to you,and everyone else
student
  • #10,174
  • Jan 10, 2010 12:04pm Jan 10, 2010 12:04pm
Quoting garrye
sorry u dont belive in santa just ea,s just looked at some of ur posts.
What?!?! Another pointless, meaningless post! What a great contribution to this thread you bring. If you are going to attack someone and accuse them of something then you need to back it up with facts, not just wild accusations...hence my question and your response pretty much sums you up!
  • #10,175
  • Jan 10, 2010 12:07pm Jan 10, 2010 12:07pm
Quoting garrye
lovejoy one because he makes his money selling a service 2 because my background is marketing and sales .you dont see jacko doing it.go look at fxtrader29 marketing for the service got his own thread.open your eyes.then go look at fosho14 ,im not the one trying to take people for a ride.wild personal attacks where my friend read my posts from the start,as for relevance what do you know, maybe you belive in santa im on the inside looking out not the other way around,like i said you dont see the wood for the trees,as for a pip count lets get...
I'm a member of his group so I know all the facts about his trading and his results. I'm not talking with emotion I'm talking with experience and facts.

Anyway I've got better things to do than respond any more to your pointless jibes and counter-productive comments
  • #10,176
  • Jan 10, 2010 2:58pm Jan 10, 2010 2:58pm
Quoting garrye
this poster did not just pop up on the thread,and the method is as old as the hills,as for false advertising you cant see the wood for the trees no offence to you,im also a member of his group so know everything about his trades and how he trades i dont take his calls i like to make money as this is what i do fulltime. when you sell a service yes you do owe people something this is his shop window were he sells his service this is why its in the commerial section .when he was on the other thread calling live calls and e/u was trending my son could...
Ill take your word for it that you are a member, but quite honestly you dont sound like one. Your view is very misguided and thats why i say that. No offense intended. Jacko does just fine, and yes he does put 200+ lots on the line when pulling the trigger. Do the math, that takes a confidence that most traders simply do not have. Yes, there are losing trades. There will always be losing trades because noone is perfect or trades a perfect system. Jacko is so good at what he does that people seem to forget the man is a human being. By that very nature he will make bad trades now and again. BUT, the bottom line is, he makes money and lives off of what he makes in forex. And lives very well. Ill say it again, Jacko doesnt owe a single person in here a damn thing. So if you want more info about this system I would ASK respectfully, and not this tone of "lets put some pressure on this guy and force him to reveal his books". That mentality is unrealistic. If you made millions would you show your books? Truth is Jacko gave us members access to his managed funds results until a member broke that trust by giving away sensitive information. So he did extend his hand out with info he didnt have to show. A bad apple ruined it for everyone. Now, I am quite bored with this attitude and am finished with this debate. It is uncuth for anyone to question the results here unless you, YOURSELF are willing to show proof. There are too many Turtles throughout the pages of this thread that give testimony to the results this method provides. Many Jacko turtles were so successfull, they simply moved on and you dont even hear from them anymore because they dont need a forum like this. My advice to anyone that doesnt believe in this system is dont spend your time and energy here. MOve on, so we dont waist precious space with pointless debates like this. Let the people that want to learn about this continue to learn. One last thing, this is not a window shop, LOL. This is where a successful trader decided to share his methods by request of other members. He has a service available also upon request from people anxious to trade his way. He lets this be known but never have i seen it pushed. Jacko is modest, honest, and very open about what he does, so much so that it has come back to bite him. If you are here to learn then start digging. Demo, ask questions, read, read, read. If you are not here to learn, then go somewhere that you feel benefits your time and efforts.

bulls
Whats happening in EUR/USD should be happening to you!
  • #10,177
  • Jan 10, 2010 3:16pm Jan 10, 2010 3:16pm
Quoting Big1red9
B&B,


I suggest one or more people from the paid group, who are willing to toss the rope down, to pull...
I respect your point of view. i have seen other requests just like this many times. It seems to me that some people have the notion they should get for free in this thread what others are perfectly willing to pay for on his private blog. No offense.

In my own words, I will say and try to make clear. The method is already here. Everything that is needed to trade this method already exists in this thread. The traders need to take initiative to go after that info, spend countless hours watching the markets, do all your homework, ask questions. But if you want what the paid members get then you should consider joining because it wouldnt be fair to them for the same info to be posted here. Ive been a member nearly a year, and it has certainly been worth it. other posts worth looking at are J16 and Phil Nells 4hr macd which discusses market rythm. J16 could be the most technically professional trader on FF has graced this thread and voiced his admiration for jacko style trading. Its all here, its just going to take time and alot of effort...

gl
bulls

Quoting lovejoy80
I'm a member of his group so I know all the facts about his trading and his results. I'm not talking with emotion I'm talking with experience and facts.

Anyway I've got better things to do than respond any more to your pointless jibes and counter-productive comments
Well said. You cant win with people that choose to have a negative attitude. Its better to let it go and move on. This is one of the most successful trading styles on FF. If they dont get it, then thats on them. You cant spoon feed them. I started out the same way with the same posted information and it helped me to mature as a trader and get through that crucial learning curve. If your here to learn just stick around, the negative people will leave soon enuff.
Whats happening in EUR/USD should be happening to you!
  • #10,178
  • Jan 10, 2010 4:00pm Jan 10, 2010 4:00pm
B&B,

I would respectfully say, that discussing what has happened historically draws a very clear line as between that which is here in FF and is in an arena where time sensitive trading information is shared. For myself, I am looking for some concrete basis to verify stepping forward.

There is trust implied in my request as anything historic could be tweaked by someone for their gain. If I felt Jacko was capable of such a thing I would not read nor spend my time having a dialog about it. I want to understand this working in the real world. I want to see how the top was dealt with as the transition to the short (only got that today by way of innuendo - might have missed more clear posts - I assume the trend is now viewed as down) and would have excepted the information as face value.

I have made a huge investment in time by spending many many hours reading this thread and had the market not cracked, would have been in a position to verify that which had been shared. Had that occurred I would have been in a position to step forward join up and be a Happy camper. But it has not played out that way. Now others now have added to the issue by claiming to be members saying the founder of the concept uses discretion and another says he has not done well in recent time. That is out there, that is reality.

Is $700.00 a lot by itself if one can see making this work in their trading? Of course not and paying for it creates a great filter and I have no issue with it. If this was $100 a month, for me I would have paid it to just take a look. At $700, I want more than a look. Just in the past month on looking at things, if I did not filter it, I could have easily spent more than $5,000, in fact 1 software package was $5,000 by itself.

So I will go at my own pace and if and when my comfort level reaches a point where I can join, I will. But having no current information with the current market conditions causes me to pause rather than step forward and therefore the process will at the very least take a lot longer. Most likely I can't get there at all. Not complaining, just sharing it from my point of view and completely understand that no one needs my $700 or $700 from anyone else.

Thank you,
BR

Quoting BullsAndBear
I respect your point of view. i have seen other requests just like this many times. It seems to me that some people have the notion they should get for free in this thread what others are perfectly willing to pay for on his private blog. No offense.

In my own words, I will say and try to make clear. The method is already here. Everything that is needed to trade this method already exists in this thread. The traders need to take initiative to go after that info, spend countless hours watching the markets, do all your homework, ask questions. But...
  • #10,179
  • Jan 10, 2010 5:10pm Jan 10, 2010 5:10pm
You should discuss trading setups, last couple of pages are pointless.
  • #10,180
  • Jan 10, 2010 5:35pm Jan 10, 2010 5:35pm
Quoting BabeFX
Hi msc,

Jacko's turkeys (oops sorry I meant Turtles) don't generally follow the rules of this thread, most of them would rather follow his signals.

BabeFX.



Better to be out of the market wishing you were in,rather than in the market wishing you were out!
I am amazed you know the workings of jacko's turtles.They must hold you in high regard to let you in on the way they trade. As for the turkey comment you obviously know we are up and running. Grow up and post something constructive. As for this thread I am out.
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