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  • #9,281
  • Jan 7, 2010 5:32pm Jan 7, 2010 5:32pm
Non-Farm Payroll:

I think it should be entitled "Payday for Spot Forex Manipulators". Look at the charts below....examples of what is happening.....pricing being pushed to the extremes. Will there be breakouts? Or are the rubber bands being stretched so far that there will be a slingshot rebounding across the board?

Who knows. But whatever happens price wise, you can bet it is already planned out.....no matter what information is released! (Just my opinion.)
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  • #9,282
  • Jan 7, 2010 10:11pm Jan 7, 2010 10:11pm
Quoting traderathome
Non-Farm Payroll:

I think it should be entitled "Payday for Spot Forex Manipulators". Look at the charts below....examples of what is happening.....pricing being pushed to the extremes. Will there be breakouts? Or are the rubber bands being stretched so far that there will be a slingshot rebounding across the board?

Who knows. But whatever happens price wise, you can bet it is already planned out.....no matter what information is released! (Just my opinion.)

For EU... I think 1.427x area is a ultimate resistance to break...
With NFp..they gona bring it down way pass that to hit SL of the Longs and may be move back up... in NFP style...

Jus a thought...

Sonic
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  • #9,283
  • Jan 7, 2010 10:15pm Jan 7, 2010 10:15pm
Quoting sonicdeejay
For EU... I think 1.427x area is a ultimate resistance to break...
With NFp..they gona bring it down way pass that to hit SL of the Longs and may be move back up... in NFP style...

Jus a thought...

Sonic

just my tots

this could be a break out

eu and ucaf
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  • #9,284
  • Jan 7, 2010 10:52pm Jan 7, 2010 10:52pm
EU and NFP: Sonic, ZZ Zang, you are both of the mind that a spike down will occur, but that the true move will follow it and will be upwards. If I read you correctly, Sonic, you think a spike down could take price to below the 1.4270s. The lowest low on attached H4 chart is 1.4217, followed by 1.4257 (the last significant low). So, we could see a spike down of 50 - 100 pips in order to hit those two previous low areas.....?

Followed by a run up.....?

The ATR is about 150 pips. 100 down and 150 back up, or 50 down and 150 up......?

Interesting possibilities. It should be a fun morning.
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  • #9,285
  • Edited Jan 8, 2010 12:10am Jan 7, 2010 11:10pm | Edited Jan 8, 2010 12:10am
The Forex Monster is being starved......so it will come charging out of the cage looking for food! The setup below should be running, but it isn't....no food, no trading, or what trading there is is being done miraculously flat (how do you buy or sell without moving the price....huh? MANIPULATION). But, soon as we get some excuse for movement....oh, sorry, I meant "news", we will get a miraculous move. Hum,.....Move, Miraculous, Manipulation, Money.....maybe the big players have an "M" fetish.

Oh well, it is all a big farce. The unfortunate thing is that it screws up decent trading for us retailers for quite some time before and afterwards. A waste of precious time.

Edit: Add second chart, on EU. I can tell by this PA and volume that the big players just ran the price down and grabbed it up at the lows. This means someone is expecting a run up after NFP. (MY analysis....35 trades to get it down, and 170 trades before it got driven back to the starting level! That is what I call Torpedo & Grab, or SINK & SALVAGE!).
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  • #9,286
  • Jan 8, 2010 1:24am Jan 8, 2010 1:24am
EJ Short Trade Posibility:

NFP or not, the wave construction has become very nice indeed on this one.....smooth, even progressions and the FE levels have great alignment with historical S&R.
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  • #9,287
  • Jan 8, 2010 2:15am Jan 8, 2010 2:15am
EU Long Set-up

EU looks to be following GU northwards.
If it does go above the last High, the DPV will be the next PA magnet.

FE's and TP's to be recalculated at DPV.

Pablo
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  • #9,288
  • Edited 2:41am Jan 8, 2010 2:28am | Edited 2:41am
Quoting PabloOnFX
EU Long Set-up

EU looks to be following GU northwards.
If it does go above the last High, the DPV will be the next PA magnet.

FE's and TP's to be recalculated at DPV.

Pablo
I feel the same way, Pablo. I have been in this as a non-Sonic trade for some time over on the THV thread. Attached is how I see it as it forms up to the SonicR method. By the way, this could go all the way to Tp 3, about 144 pips above the low. Yesterday's range was 148 pips.
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  • #9,289
  • Jan 8, 2010 3:02am Jan 8, 2010 3:02am
Quoting traderathome
I feel the same way, Pablo. I have been in this as a non-Sonic trade for some time over on the THV thread. Attached is how I see it as it forms up to the SonicR method. By the way, this could go all the way to Tp 3, about 144 pips above the low. Yesterday's range was 148 pips.
TAH,

The important difference being the FE and TP settings.
As you hit your TP's more often than not, as a rule do you always .........

1. Set your FE Point A to the SL/SH.
2. Juggle FE Points B and C, so that C has aligned to the Price Action (PA) as a means to validate the correct FE A,B and C Points selection.
3. Set TP's to FE Levels ???

and it's point three that I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on.
Do you look for a reasonable TP1 based on ATR or go for 162(TP1) and 262(TP2) irrespectively?

Thanks for your inputs.
Pablo
  • #9,290
  • Edited 4:16am Jan 8, 2010 3:21am | Edited 4:16am
Quoting PabloOnFX
TAH,

The important difference being the FE and TP settings.
As you hit your TP's more often than not, as a rule do you always .........

1. Set your FE Point A to the SL/SH.
2. Juggle FE Points B and C, so that C has aligned to the Price Action (PA) as a means to validate the correct FE A,B and C Points selection.
3. Set TP's to FE Levels ???

and it's point three that I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on.
Do you look for a reasonable TP1 based on ATR or go for 162(TP1) and 262(TP2) irrespectively?

Thanks for your inputs.
Pablo
I try to set FE(a) and FE(b) to encompass the longest run possible within reason. I try to set FE(c) at the top/bottom of the final run down/up thru Ep. Above all, if there are choices in placement, I review where they place the levels with respect to historic S&R, and use the placement that most sensibly aligns. Yes, I always place Tps on FE levels. And I use ATR to be sure I am placing Tps comfortably within range.

Edit: I do not confine to FE levels 162 & 262. Depending on how the FE lays out, even FE levels at 62, 100, and 424 could come into play.

Edit: Sometimes, after there is an initial run past Ep, but which fails to reach and stop at an FE level, there is the opportunity to test other placements of the FE to see if an FE level mates up with where the price stopped. When you find that mating occurs with a different FE placement, that tends to be the best FE placement to use for the balance of the trade. A case in point is below, where after the first run down did not mate with an FE level, I adjusted the FE so that it does. Hence, I missed the first Tp1 hit since my initial Tp1 was below. Now I have to wait for a second run.
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  • #9,291
  • Jan 8, 2010 3:35am Jan 8, 2010 3:35am
Quoting traderathome
I try to set FE(a) and FE(b) to encompass the longest run possible within reason. I try to set FE(c) at the top/bottom of the final run down/up thru Ep. Above all, if there are choices in placement, I review where they place the levels with respect to historic S&R, and use the placement that most sensibly aligns. Yes, I always place Tps on FE levels. And I use ATR to be sure I am placing Tps comfortably within range.
TAH,
That makes complete sense.

One further question please....
The GU looks to be on its way to my TP2 set to FE 262%. In this case there's no questionable settings for the FE ABC points.
Ahead are two peaks just below my TP2.
If a Downtrend is to be maintained one can expect this to fall short of TP2.

As I never see horizontal lines on your posted charts, would you stick to FE 262%

Thanks once again,
Pablo
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  • #9,292
  • Jan 8, 2010 3:37am Jan 8, 2010 3:37am
my g/u trade last night and hit today in UK session ,,,another u/j sell
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  • #9,293
  • Jan 8, 2010 3:44am Jan 8, 2010 3:44am
60 pips from e/g and 75 pips G/u ,,,,total 135 pips today ...i m above 250 pips on this week from sonic-R
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  • #9,294
  • Jan 8, 2010 4:26am Jan 8, 2010 4:26am
Quoting PabloOnFX
TAH,
That makes complete sense.

One further question please....
The GU looks to be on its way to my TP2 set to FE 262%. In this case there's no questionable settings for the FE ABC points.
Ahead are two peaks just below my TP2.
If a Downtrend is to be maintained one can expect this to fall short of TP2.

As I never see horizontal lines on your posted charts, would you stick to FE 262%

Thanks once again,
Pablo
Here is GU FE adjusted to mate with top of run so far. So, you see that we can "adjust" after we get more data.
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  • #9,295
  • Jan 8, 2010 4:29am Jan 8, 2010 4:29am
Quoting Muhammad989
60 pips from e/g and 75 pips G/u ,,,,total 135 pips today ...i m above 250 pips on this week from sonic-R
Great trades, Muhammad!
  • #9,296
  • Jan 8, 2010 4:42am Jan 8, 2010 4:42am
thnx TAH i learn lot of your posts you really help for new soonikers keep going ,i m thinking about my uj sell trade try to closed b 4 the NFP news ..

Muhammad


Quoting traderathome
Great trades, Muhammad!
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  • #9,297
  • Jan 8, 2010 4:53am Jan 8, 2010 4:53am
TP & SL rules:

Previously I offered up ...
"Once the Trade has hit TP1, consider using the Outer Line on the Dragon for your SL"


Interestingly the EU example where TAH adjusted his SL from BE after TP1 had been reached, existed the dragon at 1.4322 (TAHs TP2 was 1.4307 and reached).
So, if the rule of going to BE at TP1 had been strictly adhered TAH wouldn't have reached TP2. If the Dragon is used as a trailing SL, 20+pips would have been missed out on.

If you want a Black and White Rule, try this out.

1. After TP1 is reached, use the outer EMA of the Dragon as SL until TP2 is hit.

Pablo
p.s. I'm still learning!
  • #9,298
  • Edited 8:23am Jan 8, 2010 5:09am | Edited 8:23am
Quoting traderathome
Here is GU FE adjusted to mate with top of run so far. So, you see that we can "adjust" after we get more data.
Still the two peaks ahead but I like the approach of adjusting after more data.

Also I note two other tangible points:
1. Its the wave after the PA clears the SonicR 89ema and not the actual SL.
2. Its the SL for the period.
I'll test the above out as possible filters for setting the original FE up.

Edit: since proved neither filters are robust enough to apply!!!

Thanks,
Pablo
  • #9,299
  • Jan 8, 2010 5:31am Jan 8, 2010 5:31am
E/u Daily TF tite ranging On D1 TF ,,,,just 2 cent of analysis
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  • #9,300
  • Jan 8, 2010 6:57am Jan 8, 2010 6:57am
Hello Sonikers !
I spotted a possible long on AUDJPY, EP is not optimum because of the white line crossing a lot of candle. I drawed a bull flag that has been broken.

Do you think I should put the order ? I dont feel very confident with this one
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