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  • #178,501
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:42pm Jan 7, 2010 4:42pm
Quoting wannaberich
"trading in the zone" worked wonders for me!
what is it? could you be more specific?
Pation is the Holy Grail
  • #178,502
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:47pm Jan 7, 2010 4:47pm
Quoting skiffx
Has anyone traded NFP in 2009? Any general rule of thumb?
not realy i hav'nt , but generaly use bigger tp then ur sl
  • #178,503
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:48pm Jan 7, 2010 4:48pm
trading in the zone by Mark Douglas, I just read it...well worth it.
  • #178,504
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:48pm Jan 7, 2010 4:48pm
can anyone see this going down further past 300? even if USDX has broken 78, its oversold everywhere and needs a correction... surely we are heading up and even if we head south a bit to 280 maximum and then back up

does anyone see it going below 280? x
  • #178,505
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:48pm Jan 7, 2010 4:48pm
man 4305 is a wall....
  • #178,506
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:50pm Jan 7, 2010 4:50pm
all about mental aspect of trading. really made me see things a diferent way. ok, some mumbo jumbo on mental energy that wasn't suposed to be thre (imo) but it's really good. hard reading (i think) because it makes your mind change and we all "avoid" change inside our heads!

the single most important thing i came to understand (and it's not written there) is that discipline is not fundamental in trading (here comes everyone to beat me!)

i have a problem with discipline (i don't think i am and don't want to be) so it was a obstacle for me. but it's all about knowing (believing) what is best for you. this last month i had good results just because i found out that doubling or tripling the risk after a loss, although sometimes works, in the end will kill your account. and it's not a matter of discipline (something you have to do) it's something you WANT to do!

anyway, pretty interesting




Quoting CzechTrade
what is it? could you be more specific?
dreams do come true.
  • #178,507
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:54pm Jan 7, 2010 4:54pm
will it brake 4305 now ?
  • #178,508
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:55pm Jan 7, 2010 4:55pm
Quoting InfamousFX
man 4305 is a wall....
its yesterdays S1
  • #178,509
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:55pm Jan 7, 2010 4:55pm
Quoting balance
will it brake 4305 now ?
never
  • #178,510
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:57pm Jan 7, 2010 4:57pm
what do you think gatorinla ?
  • #178,511
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm
Quoting wannaberich
all about mental aspect of trading...
I can also recommend "Beyond Greed and Fear" by Shefrin. A bit too academic in some places, but I would be lost if I hadn't read it.
  • #178,512
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm
Quoting balance
will it brake 4305 now ?
it will USD has been strong all London NY session
  • #178,513
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm
I really liked how he wrote about the pain-avoidance mechanisms that we have programed in our brains. For the longest time I struggled with taking a loss. My pain avoidance mechanism was always the problem that caused me to be in a 'illusion' to still having a good trade and not distinguishing my perspective from the market's. Definitely a good read....just broke 4305

everyone on board?
  • #178,514
  • Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm Jan 7, 2010 4:58pm
Quoting bolek
never
unfortunatly it's going
  • #178,515
  • Jan 7, 2010 5:01pm Jan 7, 2010 5:01pm
Quoting dfptommyj
it will USD has been strong all London NY session
if NFP helps in NY we may see 4170's or lower, DXY keeps getting stronger
  • #178,516
  • Jan 7, 2010 5:02pm Jan 7, 2010 5:02pm
completely agree. also i belive very much in "beliefs". if you believe something strongly enough you WILL get it. that's how all religions work in the world and make miracles. it's called faith.

(i am still long... i know, i know all signs point downwards but since we're at this point might as well leave it be to sl). still there is a probability it will come out of the triangle to the upside.

Quoting InfamousFX
I really liked how he wrote about the pain-avoidance mechanisms that we have programed in our brains. For the longest time I struggled with taking a loss. My pain avoidance mechanism was always the problem that caused me to be in a 'illusion' to still having a good trade and not distinguishing my perspective from the market's. Definitely a good read....just broke 4305

everyone on board?
dreams do come true.
  • #178,517
  • Jan 7, 2010 5:05pm Jan 7, 2010 5:05pm

Quoting dfptommyj
if NFP helps in NY we may see 4170's or lower, DXY keeps getting stronger
Pation is the Holy Grail
  • #178,518
  • Jan 7, 2010 5:07pm Jan 7, 2010 5:07pm
Quoting wannaberich
(i didn't dare to ask)

i used to follow a thread (no matter what) where people got trashed if they asked "simple" questions. answers were on the "investigate for yourself side".

good to be here!
Some time ago, perhaps about a year ago, you would have received the same answer from some ppl in this forum. Don't see them here anymore.

TF
  • #178,519
  • Jan 7, 2010 5:08pm Jan 7, 2010 5:08pm
Quoting wannaberich
get more squeeeeeeeeeezed than this?!??!
lol seriously
  • #178,520
  • Jan 7, 2010 5:11pm Jan 7, 2010 5:11pm
Quoting atif
Demo accounts are for kids who doesn't want to play with their emotions. Flat call.
I use live and putting my own money not $50,000 play money.
You learn nothing from Demo account as there is no emotions involve.
Those who are using Demo account don't post your ideas and if you do let us know that you are a Demo player so that we will know who you are. Serious trader or Demo Player. There is a difference between two.
this guy (atif) is dead on! Trading real money involves real FEAR and GREED; with demo accts it's just not there. Those emotions will compel you to act - sometimes correctly, other times incorrectly. You need to record each trade, make notes about what you did right, what you did wrong, print out the charts for the price action before, during and after your position. AND it helps to have a short memory - put the bad trades out of mind quickly, and focus on proper decision making in your next trade. Babysit the thing if you need to, put your laptop on the nightstand and go to sleep watching the chart until you feel comfortable with the trade... just get a FEEL for the market you're in. This will help to control your fear and greed in trading real money. In a few months your blood pressure will return to normal and you'll be able to hold positions confidentally overnight. But, I recommend a small $500 acct. If you can't grow that initially making $10-$50 per trade, then you don't have the discipline to be successful in these markets... IMO
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