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  • #176,881
  • Jan 2, 2010 5:33pm Jan 2, 2010 5:33pm
taomql4
- You obviously haven't got a clue what is taking place in the US, politically or economically. You are virtually living under a fascist regime, Obama is continuing to destroy businesses, unemployment rising, foreclosures and homelessness increasing, billions being spent on genocidal warfare for the benefit of the elite, while people go hungry, a death care bill which will destroy the middle class and lower levels of medical care, trillions still being paid to bail out the Bankers, carbon taxes to further cripple industry and increase energy costs, removal of civil liberties, etc, etc. Yes - Obama's great!!!
  • #176,882
  • Jan 2, 2010 6:30pm Jan 2, 2010 6:30pm
Quoting tamster
taomql4
- You obviously haven't got a clue what is taking place in the US, politically or economically. You are virtually living under a fascist regime, Obama is continuing to destroy businesses, unemployment rising, foreclosures and homelessness increasing, billions being spent on genocidal warfare for the benefit of the elite, while people go hungry, a death care bill which will destroy the middle class and lower levels of medical care, trillions still being paid to bail out the Bankers,...
so whats that got to do with traders eur is down we sell eur is up we buy right now its down with all what you r saying and usdollar is UP UP UP
so buy it man till it shows otherwise . our job isnt to predict where its going but to benfit of the direction . trend is extend in a general direction of a specified time frame . we ve had a reversal @ 1.515 and its still going down
  • #176,883
  • Edited 6:52pm Jan 2, 2010 6:34pm | Edited 6:52pm
Quoting tamster
taomql4
- You obviously haven't got a clue what is taking place in the US, politically or economically....
O Gawwd--tamster--Put down the pamphlet for one sec.

i have noticed that alot of you out there are very Good at complaining,
But for some reason you always forget to provide solutions. What would
you have Obama do-hey--Sit in the oval office, cross his legs and watch
the whole financial system collapes. Bet You would be the first to complain
about that too.

This country was avg. 700,000 Jobs loss per month before he took office, still
sucks but am glad thats declining(and don't let people fool you--US real UNemployment was hovering around 16-24 percent before he even raised his hands to take office)

And for Goodness sake , where were you guys , when bush was spending a trillion on a freaking war and giving out idiotic tax cuts to the wealthy
without real budgeting to pay for it-- what? you think those kinds of actions don't have conseqencies, what? you think you are not going to pay for it in the long run.

30 million poor people getting health-care( lowering my prenuims) and wait for it, actually cutting the deficit(WOOO..)how ever small it may be is not so bad..Beleive me thats a new concept in Washington.

Look when this idiot was yelling on the floor , was when people that move the market ( people that actually matter) was hunting for bargains--they didn't seem to think Obama was stupid----like i said, watch your chart-and
don't let Yahoooos like beck and ricko make decisions for You.

Those Bastards down there was buying----and all the while pretending to be outrage so people like you could sell more....

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Like i said i like to listen to chart and it tells me what the people are thinkin
and whether a decision is right or not--its right there on your chart--don't think for one second that you are smarter than smart money(no pun intended).. i saw the truth on my chart...
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  • #176,884
  • Jan 2, 2010 6:56pm Jan 2, 2010 6:56pm
Quoting taomql4

This country was avg. 700,000 Jobs loss per month before he took office, still
sucks but am glad thats declining(and don't let people fool you--US real UNemployment was hovering around 16-24 percent before he even raised his hands to take office)

BULLSHIT!

Now let's get this thread back on track.
  • #176,885
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:01pm Jan 2, 2010 7:01pm
Quoting GulfCoastPip
BULLSHIT!

Now let's get this thread back on track.


lol you gotta keep the WD-40 handy, amigo, in case the iggy button gets sticky. Get it by the case if you're gonna hang out on this thread.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #176,886
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:09pm Jan 2, 2010 7:09pm
Quoting GulfCoastPip
BULLSHIT!

Now let's get this thread back on track.


BULLSHIT WHAT?

you want to say something and put a chart up to back what you are saying?so we can discuss it--its the weekend...

bullshit--the real umemployment was at 2% before jan 2009---Make me laugh--i need it this weekend---Go ahead....

Or everything is just BuLLSHIT--shalama ding dong!!!LOL
  • #176,887
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:13pm Jan 2, 2010 7:13pm
Quoting taomql4
BULLSHIT WHAT?

you want to say something and put a chart up to back what you are saying?so we can discuss it--its the weekend...

bullshit--the real umemployment was at 2% before jan 2009---Make me laugh--i need it this weekend---Go ahead....

Or everything is just BuLLSHIT--shalama ding dong!!!LOL

Unemployment numbers have nothing to do with a currency chart. I know at least 50 people that have lost their jobs in the last 6 months. Those 50 probably know another 50. If anything this administration is hiding real numbers.

Get back on topic or start your own thread.
  • #176,888
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:14pm Jan 2, 2010 7:14pm
Quoting GulfCoastPip
BULLSHIT!

Now let's get this thread back on track.


LOL, it sure feels that it has been full of clairvoyants and psychics lately. Like that other poster said a couple of days ago, it seems a lot of people received a crystal ball as a christmas present this year.
  • #176,889
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:17pm Jan 2, 2010 7:17pm
Quoting The Fool
lol you gotta keep the WD-40 handy, amigo, in case the iggy button gets sticky. Get it by the case if you're gonna hang out on this thread.
I have a tractor trailer load sitting next to the pond.

With this thread, I hang out for a few weeks then leave for a few weeks. Same ole shit. It's all part of the thread though, you take the good with the bad.
  • #176,890
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:22pm Jan 2, 2010 7:22pm
Quoting wwwin
LOL, it sure feels that it has been full of clairvoyants and psychics lately. Like that other poster said a couple of days ago, it seems a lot of people received a crystal ball as a christmas present this year.
So am thinking you agree with this statement-wwwin-

"Unemployment numbers have nothing to do with a currency chart."

Wow--so i guess nobody cares or stop trading when the unemployment claims/or numbers are released!!! on this thread...
  • #176,891
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:23pm Jan 2, 2010 7:23pm
By the way TAO welcome to the shit list.
  • #176,892
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:29pm Jan 2, 2010 7:29pm
Quoting GulfCoastPip
By the way TAO welcome to the shit list.

But why--Gulf--LOL--all i said was not to always go with what you hear on News and that you should always watch your charts..and i posted a call i made in march when everybody was going nuts ..

thats all...

i demand you take me off the shit list!!!
  • #176,893
  • Edited 8:04pm Jan 2, 2010 7:38pm | Edited 8:04pm
Quoting taomql4
So am thinking you agree with this statement-wwwin-

"Unemployment numbers have nothing to do with a currency chart."

Wow--so i guess nobody cares or stop trading when the unemployment claims/or numbers are released!!! on this thread...
I don't see the correlation from my post to your comment...but let me give you a hint of what I think...everything matters a little and the pic posted matters the most, relative to what the Central Bank of the other side of the currency pair will do. Each piece of news may or may not add or subtract to the probabilities, and that's how the aggregation of news relates to the price action in the long run. Almost everything else is BS from the fundamental side of the equation. And as somebody posted, if you are a scalper trading the 5 min chart, none of this should matter to you.
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  • #176,894
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:47pm Jan 2, 2010 7:47pm
Quoting wwwin
I don't see the correlation from my post to your comment...but let me give you a hint of what I think...everything matters a little and the pic posted matters the most, relative to what the Central Bank of the other side of the currency pair will do. Each piece of news may or may not add or subtract to the probabilities, and that's how the aggregation of news relates to the price action in the long run. Everything else is BS from the fundamental side of the equation.
Quoting wwwin
LOL, it sure feels that it has been full of clairvoyants and psychics lately. Like that other poster said a couple of days ago, it seems a lot of people received a crystal ball as a christmas present this year.
Well, didn't quiet get why you laughed when gulf said BULLSHIT!!!
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  • #176,895
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:52pm Jan 2, 2010 7:52pm
Quoting GulfCoastPip
BULLSHIT!

Now let's get this thread back on track.

On what track?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #176,896
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:52pm Jan 2, 2010 7:52pm
Quoting taomql4
Well, didn't quiet get why you laughed when gulf said BULLSHIT!!!
OK, I apoligize if you took it personally, but my comment was more a general comment (" it seems a lot of people received a crystal ball") on the bullshit of predicitions and not your post...I specifically mentioned "clairvoyants and psychics"
  • #176,897
  • Jan 2, 2010 7:56pm Jan 2, 2010 7:56pm
Quoting wwwin
OK, I apoligize if you took it personally, but I was more a general comment (" it seems a lot of people received a crystal ball") on the bullshit of predicitions and not your post...I specifically mentioned "clairvoyants and psychics"
look at my post again wwin;;..i don't take anything personally!!lol
  • #176,898
  • Jan 2, 2010 8:21pm Jan 2, 2010 8:21pm
Live rates. Look at the spread.
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  • #176,899
  • Jan 2, 2010 9:09pm Jan 2, 2010 9:09pm
Quoting malcolmb14
lol you got me ....

DR G and I are looking at es , dj and it looks really weak on daily and weekly time frames. It could take another quarter for this to work its way out. I am expecting a possible trend reversal around q2
Have you read the Zerohedge article about after hours SP500 futures trading? In the last couple of months almost ALL the % gains in SP500 has been from out of NY hours ES buying. You wanna fight the GS HFT bot? Go ahead

I have certainly seen signals over the last couple of months that the game is not over yet, and the more shorts piling into any asset class, the easier it will be for big dog to push those asset classes higher on fumes simply by squeezing leveraged shorts at the right moment. For example, look at market behaviour every time Tokyo went on holiday this year. Look at after hours trading in ES. Look at outflows for equity funds and ETFs.

Can see the weakness you're talking about on equity indices but to me they just look like retracing before the next leg up. Meanwhile USD pairs on the forex definitely look to be making a lower low in the short-medium term. As I said, I'm neutral bearish until the appropriate daily and weekly close (which I listed in this thread already).

Correlations which held true all year are starting to crack, especially the U/J -> DJIA inverse correlation and E/U -> SP500 positive correlation. But others too.

As I've mentioned repeatedly in this thread to me EURGBP is the correct roadmap to be watching for a market crash and I have also mentioned I am eyeing parity and beyond for EURGBP from the current levels. Looking at the monthly Ichimoku for EURUSD compared to GBPUSD I can definitely see it playing out like that (if there is a crash).
  • #176,900
  • Jan 2, 2010 9:29pm Jan 2, 2010 9:29pm
oh you mean after hours when there is no volume .... it is not hft it is just pure manipulation

Es I trade intraday ....

dj distribution has commenced , however this is not to say that we will not see a push up to 11000. I would like to see an ultra high vol upthrust type bar to signify end of market , if that bar kissed 11,000 even better.

hft takes advantage of the small price movements and spreads under higher vol conditions.

correlations are melting down. I am 90 % a currency trader , using etfs or fx and am currently getting into fx options.

I do mess a little with GS on options

q2 2010 is my prediction for start of next down wave.

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Quoting sinner-
Have you read the Zerohedge article about after hours SP500 futures trading? In the last couple of months almost ALL the % gains in SP500 has been from out of NY hours ES buying. You wanna fight the GS HFT bot? Go ahead

I have certainly seen signals over the last couple of months that the game is not over yet, and the more shorts piling into any asset class, the easier it will be for big dog to push those asset classes higher on fumes simply by squeezing leveraged shorts at the right moment. For example, look at market behaviour every time Tokyo...
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