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  • #167,501
  • Dec 1, 2009 7:29pm Dec 1, 2009 7:29pm
Quoting Dv84
doji no longer a option since it broke... =-] im still short eu with my WPP (weekly pivot point )(1.4980) as target
im also waiting for that level to touch.
  • #167,502
  • Dec 1, 2009 7:30pm Dec 1, 2009 7:30pm
Quoting thetruthspy
nice doji on 1hr charT?
current cs will tell us where this pair want to go?
yep but my entry is above the doji. i can see us us getting back to 5027/34 62 ..... one thing for sure, i have not seen anyone here are so called experts put a acurrate time line on this pair. and i will not kid myself that i could either. because we have all been wrong, at different times. so i will do my plan and it includes a sl.. dont do what i do without your plan agreeing. if you blindly follow anyone with your money you will more then likely loose. 5007 could be the new base line. IF
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #167,503
  • Dec 1, 2009 7:34pm Dec 1, 2009 7:34pm
Quoting gatorinla
yep but my entry is above the doji. i can see us us getting back to 5027/34 62 ..... one thing for sure, i have not seen anyone here are so called experts put a acurrate time line on this pair. and i will not kid myself that i could either. because we have all been wrong, at different times. so i will do my plan and it includes a sl.. dont do what i do without your plan agreeing. if you blindly follow anyone with your money you will more then likely loose. 5007 could be the new base line. IF
agreed.
5007 level need to watch tightly.
Break that level,we will reach 4980.
  • #167,504
  • Dec 1, 2009 7:35pm Dec 1, 2009 7:35pm
Quoting gatorinla
yep but my entry is above the doji. i can see us us getting back to 5027/34 62 ..... one thing for sure, i have not seen anyone here are so called experts put a acurrate time line on this pair. and i will not kid myself that i could either. because we have all been wrong, at different times. so i will do my plan and it includes a sl.. dont do what i do without your plan agreeing. if you blindly follow anyone with your money you will more then likely loose. 5007 could be the new base line. IF
I'm expecting either a bounce in this area or the trap door to open below 5071, down to 5000s level....personally I'm hoping for the trap door, otherwise we will likely be pinging around until London.
  • #167,505
  • Dec 1, 2009 7:36pm Dec 1, 2009 7:36pm
Quoting thetruthspy
agreed.
5007 level need to watch tightly.
Break that level,we will reach 4980.
i had that level 5 weeks before today
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #167,506
  • Dec 1, 2009 7:40pm Dec 1, 2009 7:40pm
Quoting PriceVolume
I'm expecting either a bounce in this area or the trap door to open below 5071, down to 5000s level....
we will see....im thinking later in the week.. when bb comfirmation may seem unlikley... they knew about crises almost 1 year before it was made public..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #167,507
  • Dec 1, 2009 7:45pm Dec 1, 2009 7:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
we will see....im thinking later in the week.. when bb comfirmation may seem unlikley... they knew about crises almost 1 year before it was made public..
Ain't that some $h1t....of course, it's not that they knew that surprises me....it's the arrogance that it wouldn't come to light....
Edited to add...and they're doing it again, regarding the "recovery", future prospects, and employment....
  • #167,508
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:00pm Dec 1, 2009 8:00pm
For the bears:

FT: Some of the most controversial financing practices of the credit-bubble years – from cov lite loans to Pik toggle notes and dividend recap exercises – have returned to Wall Street, stoking fears that debt markets are growing overheated. The techniques fell into disrepute during the financial crisis. In a cov light – short for covenant light – loan, borrowers are granted credit with few, if any, conditions. Pik toggle transactions make it possible for debt to be repaid with more debt – payment-in-kind notes. In a dividend recap, companies take on additional debt to pay dividends to their owners.
  • #167,509
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:00pm Dec 1, 2009 8:00pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Ain't that some $h1t....of course, it's not that they knew that surprises me....it's the arrogance that it wouldn't come to light....
Edited to add...and they're doing it again, regarding the "recovery", future prospects, and employment....

Well I personally think its the same attitude a armature trader has when holding onto a losing trade and not closing cause they "think" it will all get better. They didnt want to accept it and hoped and prayed that it wouldn't happen. But it did just like the thousands of margin calls a day lol
Time is what keeps everything from happening "right now".
  • #167,510
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:00pm Dec 1, 2009 8:00pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Ain't that some $h1t....of course, it's not that they knew that surprises me....it's the arrogance that it wouldn't come to light....
Edited to add...and they're doing it again, regarding the "recovery", future prospects, and employment....
dont listen to me. listen to his own words and timeline it. 167467 and figure out why this was done for the first time ever during this period. basicly we bailed out the world. now where was the dow then???? 1400K..

all bs.... we bailed out the banks/ stock market 3 times........once here then the bailout then the stimulis.... and soon again with the FDIC bailout. that will make 4 times..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #167,511
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:04pm Dec 1, 2009 8:04pm
Quoting Dv84
Well I personally think its the same attitude a armature trader has when holding onto a losing trade and not closing cause they "think" it will all get better. They didnt want to accept it and hoped and prayed that it wouldn't happen. But it did just like the thousands of margin calls a day lol
Agreed. The tab will have to be paid...they're just delaying the inevitable. Might be a good time to create a manufacturing startup in the US in the coming years, though. I'm thinking ammo....
  • #167,512
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:12pm Dec 1, 2009 8:12pm
Quoting gatorinla
dont listen to me. listen to his own words and timeline it. 167467 and figure out why this was done for the first time ever during this period. basicly we bailed out the world. now where was the dow then???? 1400K..

all bs.... we bailed out the banks/ stock market 3 times........once here then the bailout then the stimulis.... and soon again with the FDIC bailout. that will make 4 times..
Note the "Eliot Spitzer: Ponzi scheme" clip at the 4 minute and 20 seconds mark...is that a cockroach or and ant that walks across the camera lens? Is that garbage bag on the desk full of cockroaches? Maybe there's a decaying corpse in there, formerly known as the American Economy.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
  • #167,513
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:30pm Dec 1, 2009 8:30pm
Quoting Duce
Note the "Eliot Spitzer: Ponzi scheme" clip at the 4 minute and 20 seconds mark...is that a cockroach or and ant that walks across the camera lens? Is that garbage bag on the desk full of cockroaches? Maybe there's a decaying corpse in there, formerly known as the American Economy.
he liked his kinky sex but that aint nmb.. but he told it like it was. its a shame he did not uncover the bs..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #167,514
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:35pm Dec 1, 2009 8:35pm
time to watch... ej easing up some.. eu has to get above 5115 for the dog to hunt. im waiting as said for 25... ej currently at 131.28 above 131.40 may set eu free
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #167,515
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:38pm Dec 1, 2009 8:38pm
Quoting PriceVolume
Agreed. The tab will have to be paid...they're just delaying the inevitable. Might be a good time to create a manufacturing startup in the US in the coming years, though. I'm thinking ammo....
Life's a bitch....so be a dog and cover it!
  • #167,516
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:45pm Dec 1, 2009 8:45pm
Quoting gatorinla
time to watch... ej easing up some.. eu has to get above 5115 for the dog to hunt. im waiting as said for 25... ej currently at 131.28 above 131.40 may set eu free
131.25 is strong....been rejected a few time...
May the pips be with me !!!
  • #167,517
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:49pm Dec 1, 2009 8:49pm
will current 1hr cs close as bullish engulfing?
time will tell...
  • #167,518
  • Dec 1, 2009 8:55pm Dec 1, 2009 8:55pm
efforts Gator. I just saw him as a bagman for the SEC?? The companies he targeted rolled over and paid the squeeze, or they died (bang). you will note that there was no difference in their activities afterward. And besides, it didn't come out of managment salaries or bonuses. The shareholders paid it..

Quoting gatorinla
but he told it like it was. its a shame he did not uncover the bs..
Ah Luv the smell of a good prediction in the mornin!
  • #167,519
  • Dec 1, 2009 9:02pm Dec 1, 2009 9:02pm
Quoting thetruthspy
will current 1hr cs close as bullish engulfing?
time will tell...
it just not happen...
well can said that bearish still have some power...
  • #167,520
  • Dec 1, 2009 9:06pm Dec 1, 2009 9:06pm
Quoting Artcritique
efforts Gator. I just saw him as a bagman for the SEC?? The companies he targeted rolled over and paid the squeeze, or they died (bang). you will note that there was no difference in their activities afterward. And besides, it didn't come out of managment salaries or bonuses. The shareholders paid it..
oh well... then fire the managment..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
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