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  • #166,721
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:00pm Nov 28, 2009 1:00pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
Europeans have trouble accepting their time is over, and think they will be powerful again, why ridicule americans, do you have to take things that far, you are very offensive. I have stated facts. No thing have not changed mate Spain was a poor country when it joined eu, but had higher fertility rate than now, where under current projections there will be no spanish person around in over 100 years.


Projected by whom? Ronald McDonald?

You really do talk some utter s....!
  • #166,722
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:01pm Nov 28, 2009 1:01pm
Quoting Xaron
So future is in Asia, alright. I can live with that. Those things happen in cycles and even Asia can't grow indefinitely. I predict something now: As soon as we have our first colonies on Mars it will outperform all other planets in our sol system.

BTW: Not America freed us from communism. It was the communism itself which did break down. It was Mikhail Gorbachev who held back the russian army to fight against their own people. I know, that doesn't sound like a hero american thing but that's a fact. Luckily we had no nuclear war scenario in Europe...
America put lot of pressure on SovietUnion and it helped soviets collapse.
  • #166,723
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:01pm Nov 28, 2009 1:01pm
Ah and regarding those holidays. Actually here in Bavaria we have the most holidays you can imagine even for Germany. And guess what? We have the strongest economy in Germany here in Bavaria.

Things like limited raw materials are a good thing actually. Because we can build cars who use less than an usual tank consumes.
  • #166,724
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:01pm Nov 28, 2009 1:01pm
Quoting gammase1


Projected by whom? Ronald McDonald?

You really do talk some utter s....!
i am not making this up, Jim rogers said this in a debate with Marc Faber in 2004.
  • #166,725
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:03pm Nov 28, 2009 1:03pm
Quoting Xaron
Pff... Yes, I know those "projections". And things change in less than 100 years, that's for sure.



Oh sure. But the US learns from his history, mhh? That's not a fault of Europe, it's just a general fault of the mankind, no matter which country. And we have no raw materials? Uh oh...

So how do americans see the world?

http://www.funny-games.biz/images/pi...-world-map.jpg

Just a joke of course.
That's really funny!!!

No offence to any Americans....
  • #166,726
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:03pm Nov 28, 2009 1:03pm
Quoting Xaron
Ah and regarding those holidays. Actually here in Bavaria we have the most holidays you can imagine even for Germany. And guess what? We have the strongest economy in Germany here in Bavaria.

Things like limited raw materials are a good thing actually. Because we can build cars who use less than an usual tank consumes.
no u can't your a generation behind the Japanese in building efficient cars, and that is because companies like diamler and so are anti-technology as they are owned by those who export oil
  • #166,727
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:03pm Nov 28, 2009 1:03pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
America put lot of pressure on SovietUnion and it helped soviets collapse.
You mean that nuclear armament? Yes that helped for a monetary collapse of the SU. But in 1989 that was not relevant enough.
  • #166,728
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:06pm Nov 28, 2009 1:06pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
no u can't your a generation behind the Japanese in building efficient cars, and that is because companies like diamler and so are anti-technology as they are owned by those who export oil
Now we are talking. Conspiracy stuff? Alright! So the Oil companies (which are from US mainly) own Daimler, Volkswagen/Porsche and BMW? That's new stuff for me. But go on. Or do you mean that the VAE has some shares from Porsche?

Japanese cars are actually very good in technology and we had some trouble in the past but nowadays I wouldn't say anymore that they are better.
  • #166,729
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:07pm Nov 28, 2009 1:07pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
i am not making this up, Jim rogers said this in a debate with Marc Faber in 2004.
Okay, there are Spanish children born this year, yes? And in about 20 years or so they will follow their urges to procreate, will they not? And much of this procreation will be with fellow Spaniards, will it not? Therefore, with future life expectancy as it now stands, including the improvements in medical science, I'd expect some of those aforementioned offspring to be around in 100 years time, wouldn't you? That's not too much to expect, is it? And who knows, these offspring may even procreate themselves...

But if you've got Jim Rogers on your side, then who am I to argue? As a sidenote, I bet he'd be really pleased to have his name used to back up a cretin's argument on an internet message board.
  • #166,730
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:10pm Nov 28, 2009 1:10pm
why are you always picking on America;no the arabs, not oil companies, Japan is ahead in car technology
  • #166,731
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:11pm Nov 28, 2009 1:11pm
Quoting gammase1
Okay, there are Spanish children born this year, yes? And in about 20 years or so they will follow their urges to procreate, will they not? And much of this procreation will be with fellow Spaniards, will it not? Therefore, with future life expectancy as it now stands, including the improvements in medical science, I'd expect some of those aforementioned offspring to be around in 10 years time, wouldn't you? That's not too much to expect, is it? And who knows, these offspring may even procreate themselves...

But if you've got Jim Rogers on your...
i said that under current projections there will be no spanish person around in 100 years , i am not making this up ok Europe has horrible demographics and worse they hate immigrants. The Eu wants to lecture Americans on immigration, to eliminate visas for countries and so on. Who are they to speak they are the morons, they should focus on their own problems.
  • #166,732
  • Edited 1:49pm Nov 28, 2009 1:11pm | Edited 1:49pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
why are you always picking on America
Because I'm an evil kraut. I just have to.

edit: I'd like to add that I like America. I know quite a bunch of very cool people from there.

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Japan is ahead in car technology

Not anymore.
  • #166,733
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:13pm Nov 28, 2009 1:13pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
i said that under current projections there will be no spanish person around in 100 years , i am not making this up ok Europe has horrible demographics and worse they hate immigrants. The Eu wants to lecture Americans on immigration, to eliminate visas for countries and so on. Who are they to speak they are the morons
Read my post again. Follow my example and you will see that there will DEFINITELY be a Spanish person around in 100 years from now. You badly paraphrasing (and probably not understanding the contect in which the statement was used) something Jim Rogers may or may not have said does not constitute "current projections".
  • #166,734
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:18pm Nov 28, 2009 1:18pm
Quoting gammase1
Read my post again. Follow my example and you will see that there will DEFINITELY be a Spanish person around in 100 years from now. You badly paraphrasing something Jim Rogers may or may not have said does not constitute "current projections".
ok watch jim rogers debate with marc faber in 2004 on youtube, you will see. Regarding cars Japan is ahead.

Same as I cannot see how Europeans think integration will work with European countries when integration of west and east germany didn't fully work so how will integration with other countries work.
  • #166,735
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:22pm Nov 28, 2009 1:22pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
ok watch jim rogers debate with marc faber in 2004 on youtube, you will see that I'm a complete moron.
Can you not understand that Spanish babies born today will procreate in 20 or so years from now, their offspring will very likely be around in 80 years from their birth, meaning their will DEFINITELY be a Spanish person around in 100 years from now..... Who knows, these offspring might even produce offspring of their own.
  • #166,736
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:27pm Nov 28, 2009 1:27pm
I see you point maybe we are talking 5 generations. However in 2030 for instance some eastern european countries will see their population shrink by a quarter. By 2050 or sooner i hope Britain will be most populous country in Eu.
  • #166,737
  • Nov 28, 2009 1:39pm Nov 28, 2009 1:39pm
I don't really understand the argument that is going on here.

to me it seems like both regions are in deep trouble. and if we continue on this debt based path both the US and the EU will experience a serious economic meltdown much sooner than later.

I dont really care who fails first, since I still hope that everyone will come to their senses before that and return to a really sustainable way of living.

Unfortunately economies that are based on interest have to fight the danger of exponential growth of all components. It is highly unlikely that that fight can be won, especially when politicians and central bankers think that they can outsmart markets by artificially manipulating several components of the system.
  • #166,738
  • Nov 28, 2009 2:07pm Nov 28, 2009 2:07pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
... The Eu wants to lecture Americans on immigration... and so on. Who are they to speak they are the morons...
You related to Warren Forex by any chance?

Quoting lloydblankfe
ahh he has vanished
Well, One can only hope...

Seriously lloyd... you come a'rd ever so often and always trot out the same old tired arguments and rants with a fresh dose of Myopic Frenetic Fervor and for what?

Quoting lloydblankfe
... i have ended my argument with you as i think you cannot keep up.
Let me buy you a Going Away Again Until Next Time present...

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Actually, I just want to know... are you long or short EU? And do you even trade?

On second thought, never mind.
FUBAR...
  • #166,739
  • Nov 28, 2009 2:11pm Nov 28, 2009 2:11pm
Quoting ak4x
You related to Warren Forex by any chance?



Well, One can only hope...

Seriously lloyd... you come a'rd ever so often and always trot out the same old tired arguments and rants with a fresh dose of Myopic Frenetic Fervor and for what?


Let me buy you a Going Away Again Until Next Time present...

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Actually, I just want to know... are you long or...
can you read i called the eu bureaucrats morons, where did you get me calling everyone in eu morons.
  • #166,740
  • Nov 28, 2009 2:14pm Nov 28, 2009 2:14pm
Quoting lloydblankfe
can you read i called the eu bureaucrats morons.
Well you are true with that.

I become very angry about that SWIFT stuff lately: http://www.swift.com/about_swift/leg...financial.page
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