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  • #7,801
  • Edited 4:33am Nov 22, 2009 4:04am | Edited 4:33am
DD
What do you think of the plain vanilla chart?
If you think it is good to go, I am going to trade ONLY this chart next week.

Any suggestions welcomed.
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  • #7,802
  • Nov 22, 2009 4:50am Nov 22, 2009 4:50am
As I prepare my charts for tomorrow, which incidentally is a Bank Holiday in Japan. I am sure all can see that I have gotten carried away with the S&R.

This is the problem with me manually drawing them.
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  • #7,803
  • Nov 22, 2009 4:56am Nov 22, 2009 4:56am
Rastaman
You don't bother me ... we are all learning ...
I do not limit myself only to S/R lines OR T/L
I draw whatever I think that may help me ...
Posting 2 charts ... H4 (I have started from the D1) , M15
Hope it helps ...
Have you seen my email ?
Regards
David
Quoting Rastaman
David

Finished reading the entire book, certainly some interesting stuff in it.


The S&R stuff was helpful but, it doesn't really clear up my using too many lines or too few.

Would you do me a favor and give me your opinion on this USD/CHF chart I have drawn the S&R on?


Sorry to bother you with this, I still feel I need more lines, when I probably shouldn't.

Thanks in advance.
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  • #7,804
  • Nov 22, 2009 5:00am Nov 22, 2009 5:00am
Quoting david4u
Rastaman
You don't bother me ... we are all learning ...
I do not limit myself only to S/R lines OR T/L
I draw whatever I think that may help me ...
Posting 2 charts ... H4 (I have started from the D1) , M15
Hope it helps ...
Have you seen my email ?
Regards
David
Hi, David.


No, I will check the PM now.

Edit, right got it thanks.
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  • #7,805
  • Nov 22, 2009 5:14am Nov 22, 2009 5:14am
Right David, thanks for the info.
Got to rush out right now.

Sent you something in the second email.
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  • #7,806
  • Nov 22, 2009 8:18am Nov 22, 2009 8:18am
Quoting Rastaman
David

Finished reading the entire book, certainly some interesting stuff in it.


The S&R stuff was helpful but, it doesn't really clear up my using too many lines or too few.

Would you do me a favor and give me your opinion on this USD/CHF chart I have drawn the S&R on?


Sorry to bother you with this, I still feel I need more lines, when I probably shouldn't.

Thanks in advance.


Rastaman,

Attached is the method i use to identify my support and resistance levels.
Because we are intra day traders the major point of support and resistance would be the daily highs and lows .

Prices usually take out either the high or the low of the current day then it goes for the next day's high that is higher than the current or the next day's low that is lower than the current low,

I usually shrink the 1 hr or 4 hr chart put in the days separators then place horizontal lines at each daily highs that are higher than current price and each daily lows that are lower than the current day's.

This seem to work for me . hope i was able to help.

I have attached an example of the GU.

Also "DD" is so right you are much better off without the indis. I find much greater clarity in a naked chart

Good Luck
Lmarti
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  • #7,807
  • Nov 22, 2009 8:27am Nov 22, 2009 8:27am
Quoting lmarti21
Rastaman,

Attached is the method i use to identify my support and resistance levels.
Because we are intra day traders the major point of support and resistance would be the daily highs and lows .

Prices usually take out either the high or the low of the current...

Thanks, I will give your method a try, right now I am thinking DD's comments are indeed correct. So, this is done on the H1 tf and how many days back do we go?

I suppose with indicators,more is in reality less and the only indicator we really need is Price Action. Everything else is lagging and reacting to price as indeed we should be. I think this is what DD really means.
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  • #7,808
  • Nov 22, 2009 8:37am Nov 22, 2009 8:37am
hi guyz...

im really am inspired by the support you guyz give to eachother. living to the standards set by sonic sharing is caring. im really excited as this would be my first week trading the system. im trading live a very small micro account. $1.25
(thats whats left of an account that i blew up. ) i know it would be best to demo trade...but nothing beats live right? its the discipline that matters...

next time i post it would be with pic...

i dont want to be reprimanded by sonic or the seniors with NPNT. (no pic no talk)...

ps sonic i know your on vacation, but as soon as you get back im hoping you can share some ebooks that i can read...you know the ones that you give out to that kid named eternal...

thanks best of luck
  • #7,809
  • Nov 22, 2009 8:58am Nov 22, 2009 8:58am
What do u think about this indicator ?
Does it help to see the wave better ? (wave = 3 ema's)
Does it help to see the trend better ?
David
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  • #7,810
  • Nov 22, 2009 9:31am Nov 22, 2009 9:31am
There is an indicator in this thread called GRAB, it does the same thing but also shows ranging candles.
Nooone uses it........David, this is not the time to send me off on another Indicator Frenzy.
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  • #7,811
  • Nov 22, 2009 11:24am Nov 22, 2009 11:24am
Quoting Rastaman
Thanks, I will give your method a try, right now I am thinking DD's comments are indeed correct. So, this is done on the H1 tf and how many days back do we go?

I suppose with indicators,more is in reality less and the only indicator we really need is Price Action. Everything else is lagging and reacting to price as indeed we should be. I think this is what DD really means.
Rastaman,

I usually go about 3 or 4 days back at a time and i update the new high and lows everyday.

I usually mark the s&r on a 1 hour or 4 hour chart and switch the same chart to a 15 min that way the S&R are on my 15 min which is my work space.

Hope that help.

Also i have attached my version of the USD/chf

Regards
Lmarti
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  • #7,812
  • Nov 22, 2009 1:10pm Nov 22, 2009 1:10pm
Quoting david4u
What do u think about this indicator ?
Does it help to see the wave better ? (wave = 3 ema's)
Does it help to see the trend better ?
David
David, Heiken Ashi candles are probably best at showing trend. Cobra's THV is predicated on using them. The SonicR method focuses on the WAVE as it overlays the Dragonn, not the trend. SonicR has signaled breakouts against the trend, and for good pips.
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  • #7,813
  • Edited 1:43pm Nov 22, 2009 1:31pm | Edited 1:43pm
TAH
Nothing to do with Heiken Ashi but with the Sonic Dragon as it overlays
the Dragon.
It's just the GRaB indicator developed by Raghee Horner that was posted also in this thread.
Green = candles closed above the Sonic Dragon
Red = bellow
Blue = within the Sonic Dragon
As she wrote :" I think what makes it’s interesting is that this is completely visual."


Quoting traderathome
David, Heiken Ashi candles are probably best at showing trend. Cobra's THV is predicated on using them. The SonicR method focuses on the WAVE as it overlays the Dragonn, not the trend. SonicR has signaled breakouts against the trend, and for good pips.
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  • #7,814
  • Nov 22, 2009 1:49pm Nov 22, 2009 1:49pm
Quoting david4u
TAH
Nothing to do with Heiken Ashi but with the Sonic Dragon as it overlays
the Dragon.
It's just the GRaB indicator developed by Raghee Horner that was posted also in this thread.
Green = candles closed above the Sonic Dragon
Red = bellow
Blue = within the Sonic Dragon
As she wrote :" I think what makes it’s interesting is that this is completely visual."
It looks as if bars are used for prices above, and candlesticks are used for prices within and below.....do you see that, or am I crazy? If that is the case, I wonder why?
  • #7,815
  • Nov 22, 2009 1:58pm Nov 22, 2009 1:58pm
My friend...you are not crazy
You can use the indicator , for some reason , only with bars...
But , what do you think ?
It looks interesting to me .
I think she have developed this indi , as her trigger is a green or red bar .



Quoting traderathome
It looks as if bars are used for prices above, and candlesticks are used for prices within and below.....do you see that, or am I crazy? If that is the case, I wonder why?
  • #7,816
  • Nov 22, 2009 2:08pm Nov 22, 2009 2:08pm
Quoting david4u
My friend...you are not crazy
You can use the indicator , for some reason , only with bars...
But , what do you think ?
It looks interesting to me .
I think she have developed this indi , as her trigger is a green or red bar .
David, the blue and red are definately candlesticks and only the green are bars......wierd! I don't know what to think. Well, except for this: SonicR method specifically holds entry until price has surpassed previous high/low closed candle out of the Dragon. So, if you were using her indy, it really would not help with that.
  • #7,817
  • Nov 22, 2009 2:19pm Nov 22, 2009 2:19pm
Quoting Rastaman
DD
What do you think of the plain vanilla chart?
If you think it is good to go, I am going to trade ONLY this chart next week.

Any suggestions welcomed.
I think your chart looks very good. At the same time, Rastaman, I do not want to influence you to trade in a manner that makes you uncomfortable. I just want to move you closer to SonicR and move you away from some of the pre-Sonic baggage that you are still carrying around. What frustrates me about you is that I can see how far you have come and how close you are to the goal ... you just need a put your other arm around SonicR and give it a big hug. But to do that, you have to let go of a bit more of the pre-Sonic luggage. Throw those old suitcases out, you don't need them anymore.
  • #7,818
  • Edited 5:01pm Nov 22, 2009 3:22pm | Edited 5:01pm
hi,

i am reading this thread from the beginning, and until now i reached page 24... i have more to read and more to learn and study...
i want to thank sonicdeejay first, but also to all who made that sistem easy to understand and easy to apply...
i will keep learning and watching you, seniors!!!

Many thanks,
Dan
  • #7,819
  • Nov 22, 2009 5:38pm Nov 22, 2009 5:38pm
Quoting DanPa
hi,

i am reading this thread from the beginning, and until now i reached page 24... i have more to read and more to learn and study...
i want to thank sonicdeejay first, but also to all who made that sistem easy to understand and easy to apply...
i will keep learning and watching you, seniors!!!

Many thanks,
Dan
Welcome aboard, DanPa!
  • #7,820
  • Nov 22, 2009 6:23pm Nov 22, 2009 6:23pm
Quoting david4u
My friend...you are not crazy
You can use the indicator , for some reason , only with bars...
But , what do you think ?
It looks interesting to me .
I think she have developed this indi , as her trigger is a green or red bar .

Yeah, I posted that after I got it from Raghee's site.

She is using it as the wave setup or to spot is easier it seems, that said there is a lot of comercial junk on her site.
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