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  • #881
  • Nov 19, 2009 5:00am Nov 19, 2009 5:00am
Hey Viper, I must say I need to apologize for my previous stmnt where I claimed to have reviewed most of the EAs and offered a solution to reducing loss of equity through an equity preservation EA. After reading through and studying your 2.4, I concluded that you've built this in through a unique set of options and I am very satisfied and impressed with your extreme care in explaination through commenting each input and function in the 2.4. Very seldom will I study the code of a EA and not have questions about function meanings. Yours leaves me with a couple but I only need to apply the EA to a pltfrm and watch it work. But now with your announcment I will just wait and run the 2.5. You've taken great care to reduce a slew of questions concerning the trade functions of the 2.4 and it does show. I'll run the 2.5 and disect from there. Very impressive coding indeed. Sincerely, Kevin
  • #882
  • Nov 19, 2009 9:31am Nov 19, 2009 9:31am
Hi Viper,

There is an intermittent bug on 2.4, to do with the order reliables. This pic is from today on ey. I've had no problems with 2.3 on gu. maybe just something in the water.

Version 2.5. Does any one care? Are you kidding! Every time you announce a new version i'm like a kid waiting for Christmas.
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  • #883
  • Nov 19, 2009 11:22am Nov 19, 2009 11:22am
YES, Viper, We CARE!!

I "second" all the above recent posts - you have coded a great EA. Very neatly coded EA and all the explanations of each feature are superb. Looking forward to v2.5!

I'm not a coder, but I was trying to figure out the trend and volatility filters in the code. In my opinion, they are definitely too strict and don't allow many opportunities(if any) to initiate a grid. Perhaps you could explain exactly what these filters are/how they are calculated?

My guess:
Trend filter - around line 1170 of the code it uses MA's, RSI, CCI to determine trending (regardless of direction)?
Volatility filter - around line 1200 of the code it compares BB width to ATR? Perhaps I can tweak this value?

If I understand these better, then I could go into the code and input different values to loosen up the filter a bit...or perhaps these should be user defined in the EA?

Thanks for reading my suggestions!
  • #884
  • Nov 19, 2009 12:19pm Nov 19, 2009 12:19pm
Hi waltini1
I see your doing a demo account with the system, just wondering which broker your using? I have a demo with Alpari UK as they do hedging but they won't let me open a real account as they have changed their rules as I mentioned in a previous post. If you have or plan on a live account for this EA who will you go with?

Anyone else with a good choice, I am in USA and have accounts at Alpari US and FXDD, but I am looking for a hedging broker.

Thanks
Gene
  • #885
  • Nov 19, 2009 1:04pm Nov 19, 2009 1:04pm
Quoting tradingviper
Hi Flame,

I don't know if you realize that all input params are pretty well documented as comments in the top portion of the EA source code. The comments describing the two parameters you are questioning, I've included below. I you still don't think this is clear then please help me write it in a clearer fashion.

Viper
EXCELLENT! Thanx again for your help, assistance and great coding. I found the answer I needed. Perfect! Can't express my appreciation enough for your quick reply!
  • #886
  • Nov 19, 2009 9:45pm Nov 19, 2009 9:45pm
Quoting seller9
Hi waltini1
I see your doing a demo account with the system, just wondering which broker your using? I have a demo with Alpari UK as they do hedging but they won't let me open a real account as they have changed their rules as I mentioned in a previous post. If you have or plan on a live account for this EA who will you go with?

Anyone else with a good choice, I am in USA and have accounts at Alpari US and FXDD, but I am looking for a hedging broker.

Thanks
Gene
Hi Gene,

I have been using Alpari UK for the demo. Regarding a real or live account I am leaning toward GoMarkets in Australia. They offer micro accounts 300:1 and have good spreads and Australia is a pretty safe place to keep your funds.

Have you spoken with Alpari UK? I can't believe they don't want your business.
  • #887
  • Nov 20, 2009 12:01am Nov 20, 2009 12:01am
Quoting waltini1
Hi Gene,

I have been using Alpari UK for the demo. Regarding a real or live account I am leaning toward GoMarkets in Australia. They offer micro accounts 300:1 and have good spreads and Australia is a pretty safe place to keep your funds.

Have you spoken with Alpari UK? I can't believe they don't want your business.
But know that GoMarkets are ECN meaning that whatever EA you use will need to modify TP/SL 'after' the market order has been placed. The EA coding will permit this function. I am also looking into GoMarkets as an overseas brkr. Kevin
  • #888
  • Nov 20, 2009 12:27am Nov 20, 2009 12:27am
Quoting waltini1
Hi Viper,

I care and my $2,000 demo started on the 19 October is now up to $2644.

I am trading GBPUSD 3 levels 15 pip increment and the rest as per the ea.

As each new version comes out I update after a TakeProfit.

So its a big thanks from me.

Did Forexflash reveal any of his secrets?
Thanks Walt. If ForexFlash has any more "secrets" that he hasn't already graciously shared, he hasn't shared them with me :-)

Viper
  • #889
  • Nov 20, 2009 12:32am Nov 20, 2009 12:32am
Quoting KJenkins
Hey Viper, I must say I need to apologize for my previous stmnt where I claimed to have reviewed most of the EAs and offered a solution to reducing loss of equity through an equity preservation EA. After reading through and studying your 2.4, I concluded that you've built this in through a unique set of options and I am very satisfied and impressed with your extreme care in explaination through commenting each input and function in the 2.4. Very seldom will I study the code of a EA and not have questions about function meanings. Yours leaves me...
Thanks Kevin. I do take pride in my work and try. I appreciate you noticing. I can't make music, I'm not artistic, and not good at building physical things. Software is my creative outlet and contribution to society :-) Hope it helps someone...

Viper
  • #890
  • Nov 20, 2009 12:39am Nov 20, 2009 12:39am
Quoting plasmapants
Hi Viper,

There is an intermittent bug on 2.4, to do with the order reliables. This pic is from today on ey. I've had no problems with 2.3 on gu. maybe just something in the water.

Version 2.5. Does any one care? Are you kidding! Every time you announce a new version i'm like a kid waiting for Christmas.
Hi Plasma, Glad you're looking forward to it. Part of the delay is to code and test some of your specific "presents". It's done now, I just made a couple more last minute small changes in areas of the code you don't care about and wanted to test a little more to make sure I didn't break anything.

I think I fixed the bug you noticed. It's the grid shift bug - squashed !! Great job finding bugs though - I would like to feel confident that the code is free of the little buggers !!

Viper
  • #891
  • Edited 12:59am Nov 20, 2009 12:48am | Edited 12:59am
Quoting optojay
YES, Viper, We CARE!!

I "second" all the above recent posts - you have coded a great EA. Very neatly coded EA and all the explanations of each feature are superb. Looking forward to v2.5!

I'm not a coder, but I was trying to figure out the trend and volatility filters in the code. In my opinion, they are definitely too strict and don't allow many opportunities(if any) to initiate a grid. Perhaps you could explain exactly what these filters are/how they are calculated?

My guess:
Trend filter - around line 1170...
Hi Jay, Yes they are strict. Intentionally so. They were put in to try to avoid the dreaded death trade by trying to make sure the market is moving - trending or swinging wildly - we don't care about direction. I think I was thinking to make them strict, then you could open grids in multiple markets and most would not trade, only the best ones. Even if more than one did open at once, hopefully, if the market is moving they will be short lived grids and quick profits !

Like I said in my previous post to you, I haven't really tuned them because I have been debugging, adding features and working on flat out risk mitigation techniques so I have needed as many cycle turnovers and death trades as I can get, not avoiding them :-) We can start looking at these again and maybe tune them.

Viper

P.S. You probably don't want them both on at the same time. When one is good the other probably isn't. ALL filters that are on must pass to start a grid. Markets are usually one or the other but not both at the same time - trending and volatile around their mean.

P.P.S. Put those indicators on your chart seperately and watch them for a while...
  • #892
  • Nov 20, 2009 8:18am Nov 20, 2009 8:18am
Quoting tradingviper
Hey everyone,

I think I've pretty much finished up version 2.5. I got a little carried away with new features and enhancements and have been testing. I would like to get a little more test time on it but hopefully I'll feel comfortable releasing it tomorrow or Friday.

The new release will include: Stealth mode stops, enhanced profit calculation, will close open orders before pending orders, new initial pivot price entry filter, enhanced High/Low water mark determination and greatly enhanced high water mark risk mitigation algorithm...

Is anyone...
Yes, my friend, we're still out here and waiting for 2.5. I absolutely love the idea of stealth stops. Will try it out as soon as you release it.

Thanks a million,
Ed
  • #893
  • Nov 20, 2009 8:20am Nov 20, 2009 8:20am
Quoting seller9
Hi waltini1
I see your doing a demo account with the system, just wondering which broker your using? I have a demo with Alpari UK as they do hedging but they won't let me open a real account as they have changed their rules as I mentioned in a previous post. If you have or plan on a live account for this EA who will you go with?

Anyone else with a good choice, I am in USA and have accounts at Alpari US and FXDD, but I am looking for a hedging broker.

Thanks
Gene
I am in the US and use ATC Brokers (just google "atc brokers"), which are hedging brokers, and I have had nothing but excellent service from them.

Ed
  • #894
  • Nov 20, 2009 8:40am Nov 20, 2009 8:40am
Here is the latest and greatest release - Version 2.5

Like I said earlier, it has many new enhanced features.

The biggest being stealth mode. This moves the stops out by another full increment - in reality, nothing is done to "watch" and make sure the stop isn't exceeded, it relies on the fact that if a TP is hit, all positions close. So I have mixed feelings about this feature. Another advantage however, is that a spread spike will be much less likely to trigger a close for a potential loss.

Another enhancement has to do with the risk mitigation strategies. I do recommend that these be used by everyone. They both now have 3 triggers to enter risk mitigation - percent equity, total lot size, number of positions. If your broker has limits, you want to set these in the software so we handle the overload as best we can instead of letting the broker do it. Just to repeat, the low-water mark will still always exit in a profit or break-even. The high water mark just does its best to get you out of a sure death (margin call or freeze on new orders) situation. It is likely, you will end in a loss still. But the new algorithm is MUCH better (based on my testing) than the old one.

The rest of the new surprises are fairly minor.
Enjoy
Viper
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  • #895
  • Nov 20, 2009 11:08am Nov 20, 2009 11:08am
Thanks a lot tradingviper for all your efforts.
  • #896
  • Nov 20, 2009 11:21am Nov 20, 2009 11:21am
Thanx very much for all your efforts! I'm looking forward to demoing it next week.

I've noticed the new modifications, but especially the new InitialPivotPrice setting. I didn't see it explained in the instructions, but I'm assuming it has to do with picking a specific price to open a grid at. Great idea, I like that improvement!

So now I'm wondering if it would be possible to have settings for SweetspotEntry_0.00 (TRUE/FALSE ) and SweetspotEntry_0.50 (TRUE/FALSE)? Wondering if it would be beneficial to have a grid open at each of these sweet spots, repeatedly, until the MaxSetEntryCount (or some other stop) was hit. For mitigation purposes it's probably best that it not be able to open sweet spots found within an active grid, but each setting should be able to work at the same time.

What do you think?

You the man!
  • #897
  • Nov 20, 2009 12:28pm Nov 20, 2009 12:28pm
Quoting tradingviper
Here is the latest and greatest release - Version 2.5

Like I said earlier, it has many new enhanced features.

The biggest being stealth mode. This moves the stops out by another full increment - in reality, nothing is done to "watch" and make sure the stop isn't exceeded, it relies on the fact that if a TP is hit, all positions close. So I have mixed feelings about this feature. Another advantage however, is that a spread spike will be much less likely to trigger a close for a potential loss.

Another enhancement has to do with the risk mitigation...
Hi Viper,

What settings did you use for low/high water mark percent/lot/# positions? This should be dependent on the filtering we are doing to enter the trade, if in general we are starting at a good place then we can use strict low water mark settings.

Jag
  • #898
  • Edited 2:44pm Nov 20, 2009 2:29pm | Edited 2:44pm
Hi
Hope you don't mind but I made a Word Doc of the settings taken from your EA.

Gene
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  • #899
  • Nov 20, 2009 5:59pm Nov 20, 2009 5:59pm
Quoting Flamenco143
Thanx very much for all your efforts!...
Anything's possible. I have been sort of resisting adding input after input, we already have a lot. But if the consensus is that this would be useful for live trading and people want it, I'm game.

Viper
  • #900
  • Nov 20, 2009 6:04pm Nov 20, 2009 6:04pm
Quoting sidhujag
Hi Viper,

What settings did you use for low/high water mark percent/lot/# positions? This should be dependent on the filtering we are doing to enter the trade, if in general we are starting at a good place then we can use strict low water mark settings.

Jag
I used really low values because I was trying to force them into action for testing purposes. The High water mark is easy. You simply want that to kick in before your broker kicks his own limits in. For instance, if your broker has a 200 position limit, then set the high water position limit just under that.

The low water mark is fairly harmless since you are still guarenteed to make a profit or at least break even. I was using 20 positions, but this is a little probably a little low. I will probably use a higher number like 40 or 50. Do the same for the other triggers if desired - they can all be set and the first one to trigger will set the state.

Viper
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