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  • #861
  • Nov 16, 2009 5:13am Nov 16, 2009 5:13am
Quoting latsoc
hi plasma,


this grid was the first grid this week, i closed all grids on friday and let the ea start a new one on forex opening....

the grid was created incorectly from the beginning....

i'm using an increment of 10 points.... yes yes, i know, anyone here in this thread will tell me this is to small, but i have it running since 6 weeks forwardtesting on G/U with daily 8-12$ win (thats all i want)...
YOUR INCREMENTS ARE WAY TOO CLOSE .

wanted to know if you watched the grid initiate live? if it initiated like that then its definately a bug.

heres another explanation though. the ea is constantly calculating wether the positions you have open will allow you to make a profit when tp target is reached. if it finds that you will be -ve, it adds more positions. it might have happened that the price gapped over your pending orders, forcing the ea to open new positions so that the set could close in profit.

i had this happen last week when the market opened with gap.
bull in a china shop
  • #862
  • Nov 16, 2009 9:22am Nov 16, 2009 9:22am
Quoting plasmapants
YOUR INCREMENTS ARE WAY TOO CLOSE .
hi plasma,

for me it works really great, i tested many many different increments, but for my need these are the best....

at usual it closes 2-3 grids per day, and give's me a constant daily income...
accountsize 10'000$ and lotsize 0.01, testing since ~6 weeks without a margin call or drawdown....

the gap should not be a problem, because i let the ea start after opening, not before....

i'm looking for an ea that makes 10-30$ a day with a 10'000 account, because i want to go travelling for 1 year or more, and this would be a great income without doing anything.... in some countrys living with 20$ a day is no problem

for the moment this is the best ea, but i'm testing many of them....

SORRY FOR MY REALLY BAD ENGLISH

best regards
costal
  • #863
  • Nov 16, 2009 9:33am Nov 16, 2009 9:33am
I'm no expert, but it looks like FF's new EA involves using the Std Dev that was used in the mgrid EA. It also appears he is using a series of MA on MTF to weed out poor entry of the grid. Of course, ATR is being used to determine increment size to automate the grid.

As for how he hedges his way out of heavy DD, I can't think of what that involves. By opening more orders by hedging, aren't you eating up more margin?

Looking at his equity curve, it looks like profitable positions are closed first and losing ones later so that he gets upward spikes rather than downward spikes. This really doesn't matter as net profit is the same, but perhaps it looks "better" mentally/emotionally to the trader?

What do some more experienced traders think?
  • #864
  • Edited 10:57am Nov 16, 2009 10:42am | Edited 10:57am
Here is almost full code....
It has everything I said previously except my math coding.
Autoincrement, momentum set, full error reporting, full textual info
and warnings, writes a excell file with maxDD, some basic
loss mitigations.........etc

Asterixx get it all wrong....he will understand someday....

Regards
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forexflash
  • #865
  • Nov 16, 2009 11:27am Nov 16, 2009 11:27am
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting FOREXflash
Here is almost full code....
It has everything I said previously except my math coding.
Autoincrement, momentum set, full error reporting, full textual info
and warnings, writes a excell file with maxDD, some basic
loss mitigations.........etc

Asterixx get it all wrong....he will understand someday....

Regards

Mr./Ms. multiple username will never understand...he/she suffers wrong mindset
  • #866
  • Nov 16, 2009 2:01pm Nov 16, 2009 2:01pm
Quoting FOREXflash
Here is almost full code....
It has everything I said previously except my math coding.
Autoincrement, momentum set, full error reporting, full textual info
and warnings, writes a excell file with maxDD, some basic
loss mitigations.........etc

Asterixx get it all wrong....he will understand someday....

Regards

Thanks for giving us a little peek, FF. When do you plan on releasing/selling the full version? Is it still a work in progress?
  • #867
  • Nov 16, 2009 3:27pm Nov 16, 2009 3:27pm
I have set up 7 15min charts for 7 pairs with a usd side. I have the vol and trend filter on. I have had no trades for days. Just wondering if that it expected. Is it possible to adjust the vol and trend parameters? Are these filters so severe that no trades are likely to result?
  • #868
  • Nov 16, 2009 8:46pm Nov 16, 2009 8:46pm
Quoting FOREXflash
Here is almost full code....
It has everything I said previously except my math coding.
Autoincrement, momentum set, full error reporting, full textual info
and warnings, writes a excell file with maxDD, some basic
loss mitigations.........etc

Asterixx get it all wrong....he will understand someday....

Regards
That is extremely kind of you to share your ea including code, and I hope everyone else appreciates your generousity.
  • #869
  • Nov 17, 2009 12:25am Nov 17, 2009 12:25am
Quoting traderwep
I have set up 7 15min charts for 7 pairs with a usd side. I have the vol and trend filter on. I have had no trades for days. Just wondering if that it expected. Is it possible to adjust the vol and trend parameters? Are these filters so severe that no trades are likely to result?

If the EA is choosing not to trade due to an entry filter, it should print a comment on the screen describing which entry filter is failing.

To tell the truth, I have not tested those two entry filters very much at all, they may be very restrictive. I have been trying to get as many cycles as possible to test the rest of the EA.

Viper
  • #870
  • Nov 17, 2009 12:32am Nov 17, 2009 12:32am
Quoting FOREXflash
Here is almost full code....
It has everything I said previously except my math coding.
Autoincrement, momentum set, full error reporting, full textual info
and warnings, writes a excell file with maxDD, some basic
loss mitigations.........etc

Asterixx get it all wrong....he will understand someday....

Regards
Thanks FF. I appreciate your continuing contributions.

If you don't want to share the code ,can you at least describe the algorithm you use to work your way out of the Death Trade with very little loss or even a small profit. I have tried a number of things but have not been too successful in this area. Thanks.

Viper
  • #871
  • Nov 17, 2009 2:45am Nov 17, 2009 2:45am
Well I've read through enough of this thread to be inspired one minute and discouraged the next. It appears to me (and please forgive if I'm outta line here) but...I think it would be best to go back to the original AG since there seems to be confusion (at least by me) as to which mod has been less risky in various ways. It seems that the original which FF still praises is the one to go with as long as the user can protect his/her equity! That's the key here. I've not seen stmnts of this EA where it losses right off the bat with exception of users not starting it out of the gate right. There are hundreds of EAs that start making money right away but as soon as the pattern or market changes, it tanks. So, I propose that a 'Trailing Equity Stop Loss' be applied either as a seperate EA running on the Gbp/Jpy chrt gathering the most number of ticks thereby accumulating the most rapid current data.

You should be able to set a percentage of account to protect. Once the level is hit, all trades should be closed and the EA halted to trades. As profit increases the AEP floats/adjusts up to maintain the percentage level the user inputs. If you start with 1000.00 and set AEP to 20% then you are aiming to protect 800.00 of your account. For every cent the equity increases the 20% floats with it. So when you build up to 1200.00, then the DD takes you out, then you're out at your principle and you've lost nothing. Protect your equity while you're ahead.

Now allot of you are gonna say 'This is nothing new, there are an array of Equity Protection EAs'. True but from all I've read, this has not been proposed as a way to preserve profits. Correct me if you may but it's worth a try.
Kevin
  • #872
  • Nov 17, 2009 7:34am Nov 17, 2009 7:34am
Quoting KJenkins
Well I've read through enough of this thread to be inspired one minute and discouraged the next. It appears to me (and please forgive if I'm outta line here) but...I think it would be best to go back to the original AG since there seems to be confusion (at least by me) as to which mod has been less risky in various ways. It seems that the original which FF still praises is the one to go with as long as the user can protect his/her equity! That's the key here. I've not seen stmnts of this EA where it losses right off the bat with exception of users...
Thanks for the contribution Kevin. The more minds and the more ideas the better. Feel free to run any EA you want, but there are a few with bugs, so make sure you read about it first.

Please try your suggestion on a demo account, forward testing for a few weeks and report back. If it is very successful and seems to accomplish the desired result, it can be incorporated into the EA as an option.

Thanks again for your help and good luck.

Viper
  • #873
  • Nov 17, 2009 9:00am Nov 17, 2009 9:00am
Thanks Viper and a big thanks out to you. Will load it up and run it out. Kevin
  • #874
  • Nov 18, 2009 3:32pm Nov 18, 2009 3:32pm
At your convenience I need a little clarification on the 2.4 EA. Could you give me an explanation what (and how you use) the Minimum and Maximum Hours to start?
  • #875
  • Edited 4:50pm Nov 18, 2009 4:47pm | Edited 4:50pm
Quoting FOREXflash
Here is almost full code....
It has everything I said previously except my math coding.
Autoincrement, momentum set, full error reporting, full textual info
and warnings, writes a excell file with maxDD, some basic
loss mitigations.........etc

Asterixx get it all wrong....he will understand someday....

Regards
Hi FOREXFlash,

So what math coding are you referring to... are you referring to the backup math routine which takes over from the original one if there is a possible margin call situation? It seems there is another exit strategy in the EA you uploaded since during backtests it seems to be exiting with losses.

What about the cross currency correlation that you posted a while back... Would this be used to initiate a grid setup in the best possible currency at the time?

I think the idea of a multi-currency grid is interesting and needs to be tested. FF I think that you may be wrong here saying it is adding fuel to the fire. Think about a situation where there is a possible margin call on GU but EU is trending so GU+EU OrderProfit() > 0 and it exits. This would do a few things:

1) spread risk of getting into a ranging zone which is the cause of the margin call
2) Getting more grid setup trades since more opportunity when there is more currency involved.
3) Exit strategy is now more flexible by offsetting your loss with profit from another currency grid setup.

If you use 1 grid with 10k you could use 0.1 lots. So with 10 currencies we can use 0.01 lots with 10k and hopefully spread the risk.

I think implementing the exit strategy and entering the market routine with the Viper code (because of the bug fixes and features) and adding multi-currency may be the next step.

I wonder if this would reduce the risk of getting the death trade to the 0.001% level that will help hanover sleep at night using this system

Jag
  • #876
  • Nov 19, 2009 12:01am Nov 19, 2009 12:01am
Quoting Flamenco143
At your convenience I need a little clarification on the 2.4 EA. Could you give me an explanation what (and how you use) the Minimum and Maximum Hours to start?
Hi Flame,

I don't know if you realize that all input params are pretty well documented as comments in the top portion of the EA source code. The comments describing the two parameters you are questioning, I've included below. I you still don't think this is clear then please help me write it in a clearer fashion.

//+ MinHourToStart - This is the min time hour that a new trade set can be started.
//+ If the current hour (BROKER TIME) is greater than or equal to the time
//+ specified, the trade is allowed to begin. Use a value of -1 to not use
//+ a min start time filter.
//+
//+ MaxHourToStart - This is the max time hour that a new trade set can be started.
//+ If the current hour (BROKER TIME) is less than or equal to the time
//+ specified, the trade is allowed to begin. Use a value of -1 to not use
//+ a max start time filter. These two parameters create a "tradable time"
//+

Viper
  • #877
  • Nov 19, 2009 12:11am Nov 19, 2009 12:11am
Hey everyone,

I think I've pretty much finished up version 2.5. I got a little carried away with new features and enhancements and have been testing. I would like to get a little more test time on it but hopefully I'll feel comfortable releasing it tomorrow or Friday.

The new release will include: Stealth mode stops, enhanced profit calculation, will close open orders before pending orders, new initial pivot price entry filter, enhanced High/Low water mark determination and greatly enhanced high water mark risk mitigation algorithm...

Is anyone out there... does anyone care... ?
its been a very tough week for you small increment grid people...

Trade well, Live well,
Viper
  • #878
  • Nov 19, 2009 12:39am Nov 19, 2009 12:39am
Still here Viper. Looking forward to V2.5

Thanks for your continuing support and effort.

Cheers bud
Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.......
  • #879
  • Nov 19, 2009 1:19am Nov 19, 2009 1:19am
Quoting tradingviper
Hey everyone,

Is anyone out there... does anyone care... ?
its been a very tough week for you small increment grid people...

Trade well, Live well,
Viper
yes Viper. We're all here and we do care and appreciate your efforts.

Looking forward to the V5.

Cheers
Puks
  • #880
  • Nov 19, 2009 3:38am Nov 19, 2009 3:38am
Quoting tradingviper
Hey everyone,

I think I've pretty much finished up version 2.5. I got a little carried away with new features and enhancements and have been testing. I would like to get a little more test time on it but hopefully I'll feel comfortable releasing it tomorrow or Friday.

The new release will include: Stealth mode stops, enhanced profit calculation, will close open orders before pending orders, new initial pivot price entry filter, enhanced High/Low water mark determination and greatly enhanced high water mark risk mitigation algorithm...

Is...
Hi Viper,

I care and my $2,000 demo started on the 19 October is now up to $2644.

I am trading GBPUSD 3 levels 15 pip increment and the rest as per the ea.

As each new version comes out I update after a TakeProfit.

So its a big thanks from me.

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