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  • #143,961
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:29pm Sep 17, 2009 3:29pm
US markets closed. I think we are done for the day.
  • #143,962
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:33pm Sep 17, 2009 3:33pm
Quoting The Fool
China has a huge, industrious, thrifty population but its not a free country. You don't hear about the frequent civil unrest in China because the government has the press on lock-down. Who knows what can & will happen? But sooner or later there are some chickens that could come home to roost there and that might not be very pretty.

And India, well, really....?
You touched in a point here Fool that a lot of people desregard or just paly dumb about it.

If China was a democratic country where people worked without a constant fear of a bullet in their nec, I would respect their economy.

The problem is that they are like a dark pool full of explosive gases. Nobody knows what is really inside and it can blow up at any minute.

As soon as people have anough over there and democracy comes it will become a country like any other with small ethinic groups fighting amoung themselves, just like the old CCCP, or Irak, or Yoguslavia.
  • #143,963
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:43pm Sep 17, 2009 3:43pm
Quoting CAnthonyMVE
how long have u been trading fx?
-this summer fx'
-but i trade us markets futures, nasdaq and s&p futures for several years, those are most difficult game in town - so this is just adding another instrument but using same method
- a good method should work not just one on instrument
- i used to only hedge with eur

-overall i do not like forex though and have no intention of trading any other pairs and would never recommend anyone trade it!
----- Dragonfly out in the sun you know what I mean, don't you know
  • #143,964
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:44pm Sep 17, 2009 3:44pm
Quoting sophiaphia
-this summer fx'
-but i trade us markets futures, nasdaq and s&p futures for several years, those are most difficult game in town - so this is just adding another instrument but using same method
- a good method should work not just one on instrument
- i used to only hedge with eur

-overall i do not like forex though and have no intention of trading any other pairs and would never recommend anyone trade it!
why would you not recommend anyone else trading forex?
  • #143,965
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:50pm Sep 17, 2009 3:50pm
All those, posting to this thread, that have been Members of FF for at least 1 Year...

Please I need your help.

All others... Please continue to hangout here.

There are a few that make sense but the rest is just... well... they post "Buarshit @" {I might want that one} because they actually have no clue.

Time to Measure WHY you are here.
1) To Learn?
2) To Promote. Even if the promotion is purely for Myself.
3) to (actually) Advise of calculated foresight.

Get realistic or move your thread to "The Comedy Club"
But ... btw... Keep throwing Your Money at Me. That bit I like.

Posted as Advice. Not as a Rape Seed. There will Always be enough of them. Get Out.

hth.
  • #143,966
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:53pm Sep 17, 2009 3:53pm
i think i have to agree though , to easy posting false statements of price , wich makes this a forum i can never learn from , humor i don't hava that much problemm with if its does go too far
Quoting Bemac
All those, posting to this thread, that have been Members of FF for at least 1 Year...

Please I need your help.

All others... Please continue to hangout here.

There are a few that make sense but the rest is just... well... they post "Buarshit @" {I might want that one} because they actually have no clue.

Time to Measure WHY you are here.
1) To Learn?
2) To Promote. Even if the promotion is purely for Myself.
3) to (actually) Advise of calculated foresight.

Get realistic or move your thread to "The Comedy Club"
But ... btw... Keep throwing...
doesnt sorry
  • #143,967
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:54pm Sep 17, 2009 3:54pm
i would recommend to trade forex coz its least manipulated compare other instruments.
  • #143,968
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:57pm Sep 17, 2009 3:57pm
olemiss, example, increased leverage is increased risk and this is very bad combo for new traders. 500:1, 400:1, there is even 700:1! -not a good way to learn
----- Dragonfly out in the sun you know what I mean, don't you know
  • #143,969
  • Sep 17, 2009 3:59pm Sep 17, 2009 3:59pm
Quoting Bemac
...
Get realistic or move your thread to "The Comedy Club"

hth.
I'm looking at 1HR TF (this is the smaller tf I use...)
Seems good a short order for some pips.. (bearish dark cloud cover pattern)

SL 1,4788
TP 1,4684
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #143,970
  • Edited 4:20pm Sep 17, 2009 4:07pm | Edited 4:20pm
Quoting Bemac
All those, posting to this thread, that have been Members of FF for at least 1 Year...

Please I need your help.

All others... Please continue to hangout here...
I donno why you are asking this. But I'm watching forex not that long. At first I threw almost every indi on it because a combination of them should have a golden egg. Then I found this forum, watching it from time to time until I subscribed. And maybe I do put bullshit on it (in your eyes), but the reactions on my post let me think and learn.
Now my charts are pretty clean, with some trendlines, pivots and a renko chart that I can't leave (and I don't know why).
For me it looks like I'm peeling an onion, and maybe I will go through all layers until I can trade with more confidence. OR I will leave this all behind because it destroys my live (not money wise) and I find other things to focus on that are more important. Most won't believe it but the fun part of it is "discovering".

Cheers,
Vincent
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #143,971
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:08pm Sep 17, 2009 4:08pm
Quoting sophiaphia
olemiss, example, increased leverage is increased risk and this is very bad combo for new traders. 500:1, 400:1, there is even 700:1! -not a good way to learn
Wrong! Leverage doesn't change a dime on profit/pip.
EDIT: With this I want to say that a 700:1 account doesn't blow your account faster as if you put your trades on a 100:1 account
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #143,972
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:08pm Sep 17, 2009 4:08pm
this 9 day derby might be over, I m short @ 1.4745 targeting 1.4600 area...
  • #143,973
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:13pm Sep 17, 2009 4:13pm
Quoting The Fool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy...European_Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy..._United_States

The info re: exports found in the above links may be a little out of date, but it shows that US exports are on a par with the EZ's, while GDP per capita in the US is 50% higher than that of the EZ.

In a state like Washington (where I live) or Mississippi (where I grew up), agriculture is a huge part of the economy, with much of the production destined for export.

You can make what you want of the current...
still hush hush. but some of the reason they think china is adding more stimulus is civil unrest. unemployment was going up and foreclosers were up also. more and more move to citys each day and work was getting hard to come by. this just feeds a bubble. the chickens are almost shitting on the porch.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #143,974
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:17pm Sep 17, 2009 4:17pm
Quoting Bemac
All those, posting to this thread, that have been Members of FF for at least 1 Year...


hiss
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #143,975
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:21pm Sep 17, 2009 4:21pm
Like this trading is too easy. I want a change of venue!

I posted my daily update here
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  • #143,976
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:29pm Sep 17, 2009 4:29pm
I'm not here for drama-really I'm not. In fact, I'm perfectly capable of disregarding posts which I think to be misguiding as to specific trade advice or even general ideas about trading. Yes, there is plenty of it here-there are plenty of new traders who want to be something more than spectators and who want to feel like they too have something valuable to contribute. So they throw out ideas after a certain amount of observation and learning. Usually not very good ones-for shame, for shame.

Grown ups understand that the nature of this is a wanting to participate and improve within this tough craft of FX trading. Little kids, or perhaps bratty high school seniors who feel that they have something to protect, react with disparaging sentiment, while at the same time offering nothing valuable to those they disparage. Only to those within their protected circle. Fine, ok, do that. But why walk over to the freshman table to do it? Whats the point? Why not just leave the new players alone? If a few of the other seniors who are actually grown up want to help the newer traders why not leave it alone? How complicated is it? They're good people who don't mind helping new traders-thats why they're here.

This comes after not just one objectionable post, but repeated ones, by a few different traders. I'm sick of it. Either share something positive and helpful or just stay out. Thats how I see it.
  • #143,977
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:30pm Sep 17, 2009 4:30pm
Quoting Alihuzaifa
Thursday, the Euro took a break from crushing the dollar. According to SSI, retail traders are short the Euro by a ratio of 2.58 traders to 1.

SSI is a contrarian indicator and implies that the Euro uptrend will continue. The EUR/USD is above its 200 SMA and continues to make higher highs and higher lows. Look to get long in the 1.4669 area or at a 2 pip break above the 1.4759 area to target the 1.4826- 1.4900 area.
Once again, I'm calling...
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Unless your real name is Gregory McLeod and you work for FXCM, you're once again plagiarizing the Copyrighted Work of someone else including the chart!!, presenting it as your own and posting it on FF with absolutely NO credits or links to the original sources, and this is far from your first time.

That's truly pathetic... Apart from +1700 smilies, nonsense grunts and wisecracks, do you even HAVE any original stuff?

Googling the text of your post finds these links...all by Greg McLeod of FXCM/DailyFX in addition of course to "yours" at FF, apparently by you.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/The-Tr....html?x=0&.v=1

http://forexforums.dailyfx.com/dailyfx-course-instructor-trading-tips/23988-trend-day.html

http://www.dailyfx.com/story/strateg...213387268.html

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=3069420 -->

THIS POST ALREADY TAGGED FOR CLEANUP TO TWEE FOR REFERENCE.
FUBAR...
  • #143,978
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:35pm Sep 17, 2009 4:35pm
Quoting ak4x
Once again, I'm calling...
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The only problem I have with your post is that this guy is on my ignore list since his 100th post, but a 1600 posts later people keep quoting him ....
  • #143,979
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:42pm Sep 17, 2009 4:42pm
Quoting stevefx
<snip>Either share something positive and helpful or just stay out. Thats how I see it.

So very well said. Thank you
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #143,980
  • Sep 17, 2009 4:51pm Sep 17, 2009 4:51pm
Quoting stevefx
This comes after not just one objectionable post, but repeated ones, but a few different traders. I'm sick of it. Either share something positive and helpful or just stay out. Thats how I see it.
As a rule I stay away from this thread and the others like 'em simply because they add nothing to my knowledge and search for improvement.

A whole bunch of folk trying to outshout each other in a bid to be the first one to actually call the right number should the reversal come. Hardly any chart analyses (if there are they are buried so deep as to need oxygen to survive).

None of this aids the newcomers to make their own judgement calls. Vouches are worth jackshit to my mind but could lead the unknowing to assume the poster has a level of skill and experience beyond the reality. And that includes me!

For what it's worth, I am where I am today by dint of hard work, long hours of chart studying, one blown live account and even more study and research. When I place a trade I know why I've done it. I don't need the reassurance of those that know even less than me. If I'm wrong and I lose it's because I made a mistake and I go back to the chart to try and understand where I went wrong.

There's no educational value in this thread as it stands now and I doubt if any of the senior 'proper' traders can be bothered to fight upstream to try and help.

Those that want to survive in FX will, hopefully, find their way to other sources of education and achieve the one thing we all want from this:

Income
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