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  • #5,381
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:41am Sep 11, 2009 6:41am
Quoting Musanto
hit directly to my sl, -30 pips.
no chance to BE/ small losses
any comment guys ?
It's hard to say without seeing your chart with your entry and exit.
  • #5,382
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:43am Sep 11, 2009 6:43am
... what the hell made that up & down, ... perhaps some big dogs fighting each other ... should wait with my short a bit, ... well too late now
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  • #5,383
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:45am Sep 11, 2009 6:45am
Quoting feb2865
I think there's a clown in a suit speaking @ 9:30... They have the talent of screwing up the markets.....be aware....
Hi Feb,
Nice to see you around your threat, more often these last days...
Let me ask you a question about "news anouncements"...
Which ones should we pay attention to?...
I was only paying attention to those "red" ones...
  • #5,384
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:46am Sep 11, 2009 6:46am
Quoting DareXau
... what the hell made that up & down, ... perhaps some big dogs fighting each other ... should wait with my short a bit, ... well too late now
as fx said, when an fomc member speaks, things can get choppy, be careful.
  • #5,385
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:47am Sep 11, 2009 6:47am
Out @ BE again.....
Argggg...... This fricking price isn't strong enough to break anything.....
  • #5,386
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:48am Sep 11, 2009 6:48am
Quoting feb2865
I think there's a clown in a suit speaking @ 9:30... They have the talent of screwing up the markets.....be aware....
Thanks feb, I've totally forgotten about the Charles Evans speech.
  • #5,387
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:50am Sep 11, 2009 6:50am
Quoting cunparis
It's hard to say without seeing your chart with your entry and exit.
here it is
thank you
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  • #5,388
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:55am Sep 11, 2009 6:55am
Quoting Musanto
here it is
thank you
I think you should have leave the trade when that fractal was hitted in momentum....
Only my opinion
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  • #5,389
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:56am Sep 11, 2009 6:56am
Quoting jplo
Hi Feb,
Nice to see you around your threat, more often these last days...
Let me ask you a question about "news anouncements"...
Which ones should we pay attention to?...
I was only paying attention to those "red" ones...
all depends.....news are very much like the "flavor of the moment"

FMOC's....the non farm payroll is definitely a money maker, for now.

The red ones could be kinda subjective.

You have to handle news in another way....check one of my last posts( I think was from yesterday) and keep it in a safe place (save or print). It's is pretty much how I handle news. My bets are really high on news, especially on NFP.


Hope it helps brother...


gotta go....going long in a few..
Peace
  • #5,390
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:57am Sep 11, 2009 6:57am
markets been a matta f ing bitch today.. thats all i gatta say.. lol

i have had six trades.. one loss and 5 BE..

its just not giving out.. and NY is fucking around even more..

definantly time to call it quit for the week.. it has taken so much out of me...
  • #5,391
  • Sep 11, 2009 6:58am Sep 11, 2009 6:58am
oh crap!!! I missed my long scalp


oh well...it was a good week anyway

carry on guys!!
Peace
  • #5,392
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:02am Sep 11, 2009 7:02am
Quoting feb2865
all depends.....news are very much like the "flavor of the moment"

FMOC's....the non farm payroll is definitely a money maker, for now.

The red ones could be kinda subjective.

You have to handle news in another way....check one of my last posts( I think was from yesterday) and keep it in a safe place (save or print). It's is pretty much how I handle news. My bets are really high on news, especially on NFP.


Hope it helps brother...


gotta go....going long in a few..

oh...be careful with this FMOC's president(s) bullshit talkers.They normally "screw" the markets in a special way...like today for instance.....
Peace
  • #5,393
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:03am Sep 11, 2009 7:03am
guys stay the hell out of this until dust has settled.. this fucker got finish his speach before you make any move or any at all..
  • #5,394
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:21am Sep 11, 2009 7:21am
I reckon that even Obama's fart can trigger the big selling today
this big red ass bar may be just a first stage of long move south ...
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  • #5,395
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:23am Sep 11, 2009 7:23am
Quoting feb2865
no problem..

If you see any significant announcement, check if was positive or negative, wait a lil bit and when you see signs of the market turning the other way, wait for a pullback (preferably but sometimes you have to go with the flow) and place the trade. Of course, money and trade management rules applies.

A lotta money goes into that particular move, trust me...

hope it helps.
Thanks Feb for your help,
apreciate it so much,

When you says "when you see signs of the market turning the other way...."
I assume it is a turning into the direction of the outcome of the news anouncement and go with the flow fuelled by it, or the other way around?...

I thought to have read from you, for waiting for the first spike and entering counter it as soon as see a turning in price, but nothing to do with the news outcome itself.....

May I misunderstand that?

Thank you very much Feb...
  • #5,396
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:32am Sep 11, 2009 7:32am
Quoting fxachilies
guys stay the hell out of this until dust has settled.. this fucker got finish his speach before you make any move or any at all..
I totally agree!....

I'd never thought a "yelllow" anouncement could move the market so much.....

It's amazing how Darek can trade during such a strong moves...
  • #5,397
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:44am Sep 11, 2009 7:44am
Quoting pauljred
as fx said, when an fomc member speaks, things can get choppy, be careful.
Sorry feb , just realised said fx instead of you,
  • #5,398
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:45am Sep 11, 2009 7:45am
Quoting jplo
I totally agree!....
I'd never thought a "yelllow" anouncement could move the market so much.....
It's amazing how Darek can trade during such a strong moves...
... simply the same way as with-out the news
now watch-out for Frankfurt close and than London close ...
  • #5,399
  • Sep 11, 2009 7:58am Sep 11, 2009 7:58am
Is it possible that as there is a lot of USD news all day long AND speeches AND it's a Friday, that the 'big money' has taken a long weekend?

My thinking is that when there is little liquidity (mass) in the market, it tends to get blown about a bit in the breeze.

I could be wrong, but for the most part I have stayed out today.

Cheers,
John.
  • #5,400
  • Sep 11, 2009 8:09am Sep 11, 2009 8:09am
Quoting DareXau
... simply the same way as with-out the news
now watch-out for Frankfurt close and than London close ...
You are so skilful to counter take the price after the first spike move, after the news.....

It's all for me for this week.....
Another great training week....
Learning, learning, and after that........ more learning...... This is fantastic!!
See you
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