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  • #23,421
  • Aug 20, 2009 6:28am Aug 20, 2009 6:28am
Good morning/afternoon everyone!
Just digging in the trenches like everyone else!
  • #23,422
  • Aug 20, 2009 6:33am Aug 20, 2009 6:33am
Quoting eohater
Good morning/afternoon everyone!
Morning EO
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #23,423
  • Aug 20, 2009 6:42am Aug 20, 2009 6:42am
Quoting cisco
Unemployment down another 576k.

Wow...I sure am glad all that stimulus/pork-u-lus money is creating jobs!

The recession's over! Just ask Joe Biden.
Well last month we *were* creating jobs. They just forgot to mention those jobs that were "created" were the furloughed automaker plants being started up after a 6-8 week shutdown.
  • #23,424
  • Aug 20, 2009 6:49am Aug 20, 2009 6:49am
Morning Afternoon everybody I see the bull is loose in NY
  • #23,425
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:03am Aug 20, 2009 7:03am
Quoting cisco
Unemployment down another 576k.

Wow...I sure am glad all that stimulus/pork-u-lus money is creating jobs!

The recession's over! Just ask Joe Biden.
Here's an even scarier concern - per article below its estimated 1.5 million will run out of unemployment benefits by the end of the year unless your buddies in Washington do something :-)


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/us/02unemploy.html
  • #23,426
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:14am Aug 20, 2009 7:14am
the range she's in shrinking, somethings gotta give.... standing by.
  • #23,427
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:21am Aug 20, 2009 7:21am
do you mean 6520 - 6450?

tdeu

Quoting jeffmelvin
the range she's in shrinking, somethings gotta give.... standing by.
  • #23,428
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:26am Aug 20, 2009 7:26am
that'll be the area, i dont know how to post charts, i gave up a while ago.
Quoting tdeu
do you mean 6520 - 6450?

tdeu
  • #23,429
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:27am Aug 20, 2009 7:27am
Quoting nyjetfan
Here's an even scarier concern - per article below its estimated 1.5 million will run out of unemployment benefits by the end of the year unless your buddies in Washington do something :-)


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/02/us/02unemploy.html
I'm shocked that the NY Times would print anything like this. My, how times are a changin'.
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #23,430
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:31am Aug 20, 2009 7:31am
Quote
. I am demoing Dealbook 360 also for charts

hey tac i opened a live account with gft and honestly i am very disapointed in there platform.

some things were my mistake like it costing me almost $300 coz i accidently left a working order opened and it got filled while i slept. if you place a market order and then go and protect it with a stop or limit. the stop and limit orders are just po's in the oposite direction. so what happened was i was long on gu with a relativly tight sl okay fine the sl got hit but then when price moved up to where my tp was it entered me in short and the market kept moving up (against me) so be careful and if you can set parent and child orders (but when you close a trade you must check the working orders box to make sure it didn't leave part of the p&c order which it does very often.

Another thing the limit verse stop po's are very difficult to understand. I cannot explain it but it seems you must be a mile away to place these types of orders.

There tutorials are a joke

they don't make available most of there indicators (not that i use them) unless you open a large account.

There is no slippage. yea right and price seems to gap al the time which i can only assume is a problem with there data feed.

its harder to post charts from dealbook than mt4

i do likew there charting but in the end i am closing my account and going back to ibfx. they allow you to open multiple orders in the same direction and they have some thing where you can have multiple accounts on one platform so you can long and short at the same time if you wish. also there sl ant tp all still work because of some software stuff they did to comply with the new nfa regulations.

ken sorry i know you use dealbook but i had to post my honest opinion now that i gave them a couple month chance.

also sorry for clogging the thread with this long post.
  • #23,431
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:32am Aug 20, 2009 7:32am
one last thing..

good luck getting understandable order history. it is nearly impossible where as mt4 it is effortless.

also dealbook makes it impossible to use two computers at once. i have a desktop and a laptop that i bring around the house with me and it always logs me off of one or the other and takes forever to log into again.
  • #23,432
  • Aug 20, 2009 7:58am Aug 20, 2009 7:58am
Quoting johnnykanoo
one last thing..

good luck getting understandable order history. it is nearly impossible where as mt4 it is effortless.

also dealbook makes it impossible to use two computers at once. i have a desktop and a laptop that i bring around the house with me and it always logs me off of one or the other and takes forever to log into again.
Yeah I had a look at their interface last night, its very busy indeed. I like their charts though, the fact that their candles don't grown and shrink like MT4. I am looking at MB Navigator now. The order issues I am familiar with, when I used currenex (FXDD). I tried to close an order but accidentally used 2x lots size so opened an order in the opposite direction, I had to reverse this and got confused and ended reversing 10 times!!!. Eventually managed to close everything but paid for it in commission!. I prefer open order and close order. OCO are good also for stops/take profits etc. Thanks for your expereinces though very useful Jonny.


Think i like about MB Nav is that I can use keyboard shortcuts to I can do Ctrl O to open and Ctrl C to close.
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
  • #23,433
  • Aug 20, 2009 8:01am Aug 20, 2009 8:01am
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  • | Joined Apr 2009 | Status: Perspective,Position,Plan ,Pattern | 2,859 Posts
something's cooking folks...I can see someone is consolidating....
look at ftse almost 2% UP, djia UP but cable is not going up nor breaking 64700 support. We will have a surprise next week. Someone big is "off loading" there position and someone BIG is buying.

Anyways, do any of you guys do hedging ?
  • #23,434
  • Aug 20, 2009 8:11am Aug 20, 2009 8:11am
Quoting johnnykanoo
hey tac i opened a live account with gft and honestly i am very disapointed in there platform.

some things were my mistake like it costing me almost $300 coz i accidently left a working order opened and it got filled while i slept. if you place a market order and then go and protect it with a stop or limit. the stop and limit orders are just po's in the oposite direction. so what happened was i was long on gu with a relativly tight sl okay fine the sl got hit but then when price moved up to where my tp was it entered me in short and the market...
I am not having your issues.... So all good. It is what I have mainlly used..
Good Trading To All ; Ken Lee
  • #23,435
  • Aug 20, 2009 8:22am Aug 20, 2009 8:22am
Quoting KENNETH lEE
I am not having your issues.... So all good. It is what I have mainlly used..
Hi Ken,

I read your great word document and you mentioned flash cards for 15 min setups? Are those published somewhere? Or should I search the thread.

Thanks again for your input.

Mark
I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.
  • #23,436
  • Aug 20, 2009 8:59am Aug 20, 2009 8:59am
Quoting tac
Hi Ken,

I read your great word document and you mentioned flash cards for 15 min setups? Are those published somewhere? Or should I search the thread.

Thanks again for your input.

Mark

PM me your E-mail Ken
Good Trading To All ; Ken Lee
  • #23,437
  • Aug 20, 2009 9:29am Aug 20, 2009 9:29am
well I see I haven't missed anything so far this afternoon.
'The past will always show us the future'
  • #23,438
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:08am Aug 20, 2009 10:08am
Quoting AmeriTrini
I smell a BIG move coming..............
Not often will you see such a congregating of
multiple ema's (6- 144) all at the same time
on consecutive tf charts (15m - 4h).

Somethin's brewin'.

Dr. D.
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  • #23,439
  • Aug 20, 2009 10:09am Aug 20, 2009 10:09am
So did anyone else get an email about a personal stimulus package from Ben Bernanke himself, or am I the lucky one? Seems odd with all the money the government has and spends, Ben still uses yahoo and gmail addresses.

Your friend, Mr.Ben S. Bernanke ([email protected]) has sent you this information from Yahoo! Personals.
(Email address has not been verified.)

Personal message:
This is to notify you about our meeting today with The President, Finance
Minister, The Senators, House of Representatives and The Chairman Federal Reserve Bank New York, and we came to a conclusion that we have to pay you the sum of $10.3.000
M. The payment will be via Eletronic transfer, therefore send your Name Address and Tel.#. Your urgently respond is needed.
Best Regards,
Mr.Ben S. Bernanke
Fund Crediting Officer
Federal Reserve Bank New York,
[email protected]
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  • Edited 10:51am Aug 20, 2009 10:36am | Edited 10:51am
This is a wedge on my 1hr. chart we have been in for the past 5 or so days, we will have to break out soon.[IMG]file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Kent%20Glover/My%20Documents/My%20eBooks/charts.gif[/IMG]
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