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  • #1,521
  • Jul 30, 2009 6:20am Jul 30, 2009 6:20am
Quoting Mandl2007
Yes - in this case - so I have the newest gartley - I took all indis from Xux's post containing the V0.8.

Have you any ideas for longer trailings to get bigger profits on long moves - see my pictures above ?
Not yet..still working on it!
  • #1,522
  • Jul 30, 2009 6:56am Jul 30, 2009 6:56am
The move started at about 06:00, trading started at 07:00 and although the entry conditions were valid the signal was not fresh any more. To capture a big trend exit at trix cross.
Quoting Mandl2007
what could be the reason for missing this nice move beginning from 07:00 ? no trade exit using THV criteria ? criteria not fullfilled ?
  • #1,523
  • Jul 30, 2009 8:08am Jul 30, 2009 8:08am
Quoting fxspeedster
As much as I hate to say it - this is a perfect example of the reward gotten by not thoroughly backtesting the EA and making sure it can withstand periods of adverse market conditions. If you had backtested the EA with your settings, you would have already seen this coming and be able to make the necessary adjustments.
What happened to the good backtest posts that the few diligent traders started running a while ago? Has that all dried up and are we back to isolated anecdotal forward demo incidents?
Here is a backtest with EA 0.8 and the set from kaizasoze (closeprofit=false) for eurusd M15 from may till today.
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  • #1,524
  • Jul 30, 2009 8:27am Jul 30, 2009 8:27am
what was the exactly set file ? Why closeifprofit = false ? We use true ?
Could you check/backtest my set - see the attatchment.
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  • #1,525
  • Jul 30, 2009 8:52am Jul 30, 2009 8:52am
Quoting Mandl2007
@Kaz could you check it ?

here is my actual set used since midnight today - a modified 15 M kaizasoze set - main differences: it ignores the Coral and S/L is now only 25 pips. I ignore the Coral as an attempt for an earlier entry.
Hi Mandl2007,
What is this set based on? Did you backtest it at least from the start of 2009 to prove that it is a viable set?
If it backtests good run it live!
  • #1,526
  • Jul 30, 2009 8:55am Jul 30, 2009 8:55am
Quoting NosferatuMan
Here is a backtest with EA 0.8 and the set from kaizasoze (closeprofit=false) for eurusd M15 from may till today.
Thumbs up to you my friend for running this! So this is the best we can do so far it seems.. if one looks at the profits vs the losses we can do no better than breakeven at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong guys.
If it backtests good run it live!
  • #1,527
  • Jul 30, 2009 9:09am Jul 30, 2009 9:09am
Quoting Mandl2007
what was the exactly set file ? Why closeifprofit = false ? We use true ?
Could you check/backtest my set - see the attatchment.
I'm running it right now.

EDIT: running it with the first set file you posted.
  • #1,528
  • Jul 30, 2009 9:14am Jul 30, 2009 9:14am
Quoting fxspeedster
Thumbs up to you my friend for running this! So this is the best we can do so far it seems.. if one looks at the profits vs the losses we can do no better than breakeven at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong guys.
I can also upload the full report, if your guys think its necessary.

Kaizasoze, I hope you don't think this beeing abusive from my side (running some backtests on your set).

PS: I'm not a backtest fundamentalist.
  • #1,529
  • Jul 30, 2009 9:33am Jul 30, 2009 9:33am
Quoting NosferatuMan
I can also upload the full report, if your guys think its necessary.

Kaizasoze, I hope you don't think this beeing abusive from my side (running some backtests on your set).

PS: I'm not a backtest fundamentalist.
Not at all buddy..take the car and drive it downtown,out of town.. where-ever you want. Also, I'd suggest making one change..instead of using 1H try using 4H or Daily. You can expect fewer trades.Try to run it and see if it improves the results. Also, check the OB/OS levels..the setting might be too high. You can also try using FastSlowTrixCross = 310 both for opening and closing positions.

@fxspeedster

Mate I am putting in all I can to improve the set files. May be you can chime in an offer some more insight on improving the losing trades? Something I am missing out altogether?
Cheers
Kaz
  • #1,530
  • Jul 30, 2009 10:01am Jul 30, 2009 10:01am
Quoting kaizasoze
Not at all buddy..take the car and drive it downtown,out of town.. where-ever you want. Also, I'd suggest making one change..instead of using 1H try using 4H or Daily. You can expect fewer trades.Try to run it and see if it improves the results. Also, check the OB/OS levels..the setting might be too high. You can also try using FastSlowTrixCross = 310 both for opening and closing positions.
I've tested it in EURUSD M15.

Thanks for your suggestions. I'm not very good at optimizing set files
  • #1,531
  • Jul 30, 2009 10:07am Jul 30, 2009 10:07am
Quoting fxspeedster
What happened to the good backtest posts that the few diligent traders started running a while ago? Has that all dried up and are we back to isolated anecdotal forward demo incidents?
Not sure if mine fell into this category but I am currently rerunning Jan-Jun 2009 Backtest on V8 against a few of the best sets files. There does seem to be a few differences between v7 & v8 sets and a bit of tweeking may be required. A quick test of my best v7 set file performed badly in v8 ( Every trade a looser ... ) so I need to review the settings. Probably something simple.

B. Rgds

WR
  • #1,532
  • Jul 30, 2009 10:58am Jul 30, 2009 10:58am
Quoting NosferatuMan
I'm running it right now.

EDIT: running it with the first set file you posted.
Here it is.

Later I will try with another set maybe with a higher TF.
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  • #1,533
  • Jul 30, 2009 12:28pm Jul 30, 2009 12:28pm
Quoting kaizasoze
Not at all buddy..take the car and drive it downtown,out of town.. where-ever you want. Also, I'd suggest making one change..instead of using 1H try using 4H or Daily. You can expect fewer trades.Try to run it and see if it improves the results. Also, check the OB/OS levels..the setting might be too high. You can also try using FastSlowTrixCross = 310 both for opening and closing positions....
Will definitely give it some deep thought. It is a rather complex EA with a lot of options. One not optimal setting and it can throw us in a bad loop. Since most of us are not experts on the concept of the EA, I recommend that the experts like Cobra or the THV team to guide us. Making recommendations like "change this.. try that" etc. would prove very valuable.
Main question to ask is why does it have so many large losers to wipe out its gains? Does it enter too soon, does it keep the trades for too long and lose the profit? Does it take trend trades and gets killed when the trend turns or the market goes sideways?
These are some of the important questions that we need to answer.. otherwise we are simply spinning our wheels and dreaming ourselves into the unprofitable kingdom...
If it backtests good run it live!
  • #1,534
  • Jul 30, 2009 12:49pm Jul 30, 2009 12:49pm
Quoting fxspeedster
Will definitely give it some deep thought....
I won't be very happy in that kingdom. So, thats why I have decided to double up and put some more work on weekends on the trades. I personally think we are getting closer to a profitable set. Just a few more weeks of patience and dedication will surely get us through..need more hands on EA though!
Cheers
Kaz
  • #1,535
  • Jul 30, 2009 12:50pm Jul 30, 2009 12:50pm
FXSpeedster, if you read some pages back you will notice that I'm a novice in EA's.

Most of you all know much more than I about robs but I try my best.

I know very well how to trade THV but the robot is different because the human intervention and sentiment is missing.
  • #1,536
  • Jul 30, 2009 1:21pm Jul 30, 2009 1:21pm
Quoting WackyRacer
Not sure if mine fell into this category but I am currently rerunning Jan-Jun 2009 Backtest on V8 against a few of the best sets files. There does seem to be a few differences between v7 & v8 sets and a bit of tweeking may be required. A quick test of my best v7 set file performed badly in v8 ( Every trade a looser ... ) so I need to review the settings. Probably something simple.

B. Rgds

WR
Can I suggest a few things:

1. FastTrixDirection = 310.
2. OppositeSignalExit = True.
3. CloseifProfit = False.
4. Enable Martingale, Lot size =1.5
5. OB/OS Levels of Higher TF ie 30Min
6. Use H4 instead of H1.
7. Use only majors/ with spread under 4.

Hope it should help us reduce some draw down.

Cheers

Kaz
  • #1,537
  • Edited 2:18pm Jul 30, 2009 1:50pm | Edited 2:18pm
Hi Traders
I have had THV EA/V8 up and running for a few days now and it is not doing too bad, it did take 2 big hits though. I am running it on the M5 chart with default M5 settings file. I did change the trade times to 0800 to 2000.

Great piece of software THV EA, thanks to all who have put so much time into this.

Right now THV is struggling with a buy it did at 2009, 07, 30 17:10, hope EURUSD starts back up, right now its down 1 pip.

Good Luck and happy tweaking

Gene
  • #1,538
  • Jul 30, 2009 2:07pm Jul 30, 2009 2:07pm
Quoting seller9
Hi Traders
I have had THV EA/V8 up and running for a few days now and it is not doing too bad, it did take 2 big hits though. I am running it on the M5 chart with default M5 settings file. I did change the trade times to 0800 to 2000. Also when setting it up it took a trade it wasn't ready for, this would be the USDJPY entry in the stats, so ignore this one trade, I closed it manualy. If you are interested I have set up the stats at mt4stats for you to take a look at. I also have Euro Blaster and MegaDroid running on different demo accounts and...
Lets keep this thread strictly THV EA. Also the default file is not an optimized one. You've got to add the tweaks to it.

I am a bit surprised there is no discussions on settings here. Seems to me everyone understands every word and combination of settings!

Kaz
  • #1,539
  • Jul 30, 2009 2:15pm Jul 30, 2009 2:15pm
Quoting kaizasoze
Lets keep this thread strictly THV EA. Also the default file is not an optimized one. You've got to add the tweaks to it.

I am a bit surprised there is no discussions on settings here. Seems to me everyone understands every word and combination of settings!

Kaz
Where do I get the tweaked settings file?
  • #1,540
  • Jul 30, 2009 2:37pm Jul 30, 2009 2:37pm
Quoting seller9
Where do I get the tweaked settings file?
How about making your own?
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