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  • #1,761
  • Jul 15, 2009 2:12pm Jul 15, 2009 2:12pm
Quoting Anaphylaktos
FB 1.5c in full-auto. My best results ( with another brokers are different ).
Thank you Samurai and Actionpl !!
hi,Anaphylaktos, can you share your set?
  • #1,762
  • Jul 15, 2009 5:42pm Jul 15, 2009 5:42pm
is a labeled trendline still required with trendline_watch=false with 1.5c when trying to test full auto?
  • #1,763
  • Jul 15, 2009 7:08pm Jul 15, 2009 7:08pm
Quoting Anaphylaktos
Yes, you are absolutelly right, I could have had better results, I know that, but we alltogether must improve the basic settings of the FB! This is my fourth step... I think I will cancell the Stoploss, who knows? I go on testing..
Salute!
Hi,
I'm working on version 1.5d that do exactly what you refer to. This new version will allow us to have stop loss and still keep the takeprofit option.
I will make it so that we can turn this option on or off.

I am also working on a new stoploss option that will adjust itself dynamically to the market conditions. I still have some bugs in it but the initial results seem pretty encouraging. This will also be an alternative to trade with the new Forex rules starting in August.

I will post it when the code will be stable. Don't have a lot of time to work on that for now.

Best regards to all

Bye

Actionpl
  • #1,764
  • Jul 15, 2009 7:13pm Jul 15, 2009 7:13pm
Quoting bshoe24
is a labeled trendline still required with trendline_watch=false with 1.5c when trying to test full auto?
Yes you need label trendline with trendline_watch=false or true.

If you don't want to trace trendline, you need to set variable TrendAnalysis=false.

In the past we have test it and it does not produce consistant good results over a long period of time. If you find a set of variable that is working in different market condition, let us know.

Bye

Actionpl
  • #1,765
  • Jul 16, 2009 3:14am Jul 16, 2009 3:14am
Quoting yilong
hi,Anaphylaktos, can you share your set?
Of course: FB 1.C standard settings with exception: TP:50, Trigger:20,
TS true:20, both trendlines MDTA and MUTA are together in the same chart ( I haven't had any problem with this so far...). I don't think this is the optimal setting and trying another ones.
  • #1,766
  • Jul 16, 2009 4:16am Jul 16, 2009 4:16am
Few of you guys run fully auto firebird. It seems it works best in good sideways market, and when breakout happens and starts trending, we switch to long or short.

This may be a good way to go IMHO
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  • #1,767
  • Jul 16, 2009 8:53pm Jul 16, 2009 8:53pm
Is this the wrong thread to discuss Dr. Sivaraman's comments?
  • #1,768
  • Jul 17, 2009 1:20am Jul 17, 2009 1:20am
Quoting Actionpl
Yes you need label trendline with trendline_watch=false or true.

If you don't want to trace trendline, you need to set variable TrendAnalysis=false.

In the past we have test it and it does not produce consistant good results over a long period of time. If you find a set of variable that is working in different market condition, let us know.

Bye

Actionpl
ActionPL

Are you saying that by not using trend analysis (trendline) that the EA does not perform well?

How long did you test for?

Thanks

Spy
  • #1,769
  • Jul 17, 2009 2:44am Jul 17, 2009 2:44am
Hi all
Unfortunately it's impossible to backtester this EA with trendanalysis=true.
Here is the results 2009 with trendanalysis=false.
So we have to use the EA with trendanalysis=true to perform.
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  • #1,770
  • Jul 17, 2009 12:55pm Jul 17, 2009 12:55pm
Quoting Anaphylaktos
FB 1.5c in full-auto. My best results ( with another brokers are different ).
Thank you Samurai and Actionpl !!
Is trendanalysis set to false for you? If it's not, then do you draw the trend line for each graph manually?

Those who are getting all wins with little losses and are using fully automated strategy... you must be using trendanalysis set to false? Otherwise you have to draw a maintrend line and it is semi automatic in that case. Which is the case?

TheGabriel or ayoneeyee care to explain?

Gasgas said it's best to use during sideways trend, so should limit
the ea's time to the Asian time session?
  • #1,771
  • Jul 17, 2009 1:32pm Jul 17, 2009 1:32pm
I think you are right gasgas. From my experience last week, when the market was trending, the EA did not perform as well as when the market is consolidating. Semi-auto trading will be good for trending market.


Quoting gasgas
Few of you guys run fully auto firebird. It seems it works best in good sideways market, and when breakout happens and starts trending, we switch to long or short.

This may be a good way to go IMHO
  • #1,772
  • Jul 18, 2009 1:39am Jul 18, 2009 1:39am
I wanted to backtester only the Asian session with trendanalysis false.
Unfortunately it's impossible : I'm thinking the open and close hours of the EA are not working correctly.
  • #1,773
  • Jul 18, 2009 8:03am Jul 18, 2009 8:03am
Quoting Petar_Serbia
LOL

300 pips SL and 30 TP :O

If you play random position with that bad MM you will win in most case but 1 lost all TP lost

The most important thing in Fored is Money Menagment
Well the only loss i hav was on GBP-USD and that day all the trades together for this pair with loss too, It still have been profitable for a few pips. For that day yes the loss canceled the profits. I will probably raise the TP to at least 50 pips, but the trailing doesn't seem to work.
"Hate the sin, love the sinner." - Gandhi
  • #1,774
  • Jul 18, 2009 8:34am Jul 18, 2009 8:34am
Gabriel, your results are impressive, however i cannot seem to duplicate those stats. Are you using version 1.3a and please re-post your settings. Cheers!! Also, do you just start the Ea at the open of the next day, and let run for the duration, or do you turn on the Ea at the London/and or US open?
  • #1,775
  • Jul 18, 2009 9:24am Jul 18, 2009 9:24am
I use the same settings ayoneeyee shared posts ago, except made for take profit and sl wich is now 40 pips as TP and 300 as SL for me.

I'll have to test and see how it goes, we still have to face a trending market.
"Hate the sin, love the sinner." - Gandhi
  • #1,776
  • Jul 18, 2009 2:47pm Jul 18, 2009 2:47pm
Quoting sidhujag
Is trendanalysis set to false for you? If it's not, then do you draw the trend line for each graph manually?
Trendanalysis=true,
both MainTrendLines are together in a Monthly chart, drawn manually.
  • #1,777
  • Jul 18, 2009 5:44pm Jul 18, 2009 5:44pm
An update for the automatic EA guys, I'm getting back to semiautomatic, will continue to test full automatic EA but it works good for ranging markets, not trending ones, so we must make it work the semiautomatic way anyway.

I'd like to know how gasgas or samuraipower are doing, are you guys on? And any other friends doing it semiautomatic, real or demo trading, please specify too.
"Hate the sin, love the sinner." - Gandhi
  • #1,778
  • Jul 18, 2009 5:54pm Jul 18, 2009 5:54pm
Quoting gasgas
Few of you guys run fully auto firebird. It seems it works best in good sideways market, and when breakout happens and starts trending, we switch to long or short.

This may be a good way to go IMHO
I think it's a good way, right now i just disable the ea and don't let it trade when I can't find the trade for the day (the semiautomatic way). Maybe I'll try to find the day trade and when I'm not able and seems in range I'll let it trade both long and short.

I'll let you know the results. For the semiautomatic way I'll set 50 PIPS TP, the automatic way 30 PIPS.

Any further ideas? I've set the Ea to trade from 8 to 21 as open and close hours, you other guys are just doing default with 0-24?
"Hate the sin, love the sinner." - Gandhi
  • #1,779
  • Edited 1:19pm Jul 19, 2009 9:47am | Edited 1:19pm
Hi everybody, this is my first post

I have noitced this EA a while ago and it looks like a great thing!
Unfortunately, i never managed to try it and I don't understant why it doesn't work.

I opened a demo account on fxpro with a 1000$. Then i have downloaded Firebird-v63H04_Heiken_Ashi_Trend_vs1_3b. All the settings are from this post: http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost.php?p=2714301&postcount=1280

What I have changed is:
Lots: 0.01

Maybe I should change something else because the EA doesn't open any position at all and I even can't backtest it because it shows no results. I've tried to backtest it like it says in the first post (maybe second) but still 0 opened positions. Can somebody help me??

P.S. English is not my default language, so sorry if it is confusing
  • #1,780
  • Edited 1:05pm Jul 19, 2009 12:48pm | Edited 1:05pm
i found these in the doc in this thread "Instructions for Setting Up and Operating Firebird - June 1 2009.doc"

so if i want to have the EA start trading long on a break of a horizontal trendline (resistance) when in a range i would use #???

i tried various combinations below in strategy tester but, i ended up with buys and sells opening in the test when i only wanted long. i had trendline_watch=true. should trendanalysis be on too by the way for a scenario where i only wanted to initiate trading on the break of a trendline? i tried first with it on and it wouldn't open any trades in this scenario so i turned it off and it started trading but, i got some sell trades when i didn't want any.

i'm using v 1.5c

it would be helpful if there was a quality document created and maintained that covered the evolving trendline syntax and trade examples. i have seen A LOT of people having to ask these specific questions.

thanks for all the generosity in sharing.

1. Alert_30: If price action come close to this trend by 30 pips by either side.
2. DownTrend_Alert_ :If price action come above this trendline
3. UpTrend_Alert_: If price action come below this trendline
4. UpTrend_Close_Alert_: Same as 3 but will close all open buy order
5. DownTrend_Close_Alert_: Same as 2 but will close all open sell order
6. UpTrend_Trade_Alert_30: Same as 3 but will initiate a sell trade if price action go 30 pips below the uptrend
7. DownTrend_Trade_Alert_30: Same as 2 but will initiate a buy trade if price action go 30 pips above the downtrend.
8. UpTrend_Close_Trade_Alert_30: Will close all buy trade before doing 6
9. DownTrend_Trade_Alert_30: Will close all sell trade before doing 7
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