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  • #19,021
  • Jul 16, 2009 9:52am Jul 16, 2009 9:52am
everybody wants jobs and stimulus RIGHT AWAY!!!. please realize that Obama has to undo the 8yrs of garbage that the past administration did.........he inherited bad unemployment and a severly damaged economy that sent the rest of the world to its knees. Please don't kock him because its barely been 6 months, remember he has 8yrs of damage to undo!!!!
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  • #19,022
  • Jul 16, 2009 9:52am Jul 16, 2009 9:52am
Quoting Komissar
Morning, fellows
I've just seen this headline on Yahoo!Finance.
Stock Futures Climb on Improving Jobless Data
And it pissed me off!
They expected 575000 jobs to be cutted, and results showed only 522000.
WTF! Another month and another half million jobs were eliminated, and they are talking about improving jobless situation!
I can't take it anymore!
Sorry,...
The true unemployment rate is over 20%.

Now that's change you can believe in!

As Obama says, "Yes we can."

That's enough of my ranting for one day.
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #19,023
  • Jul 16, 2009 9:56am Jul 16, 2009 9:56am
Quoting cisco
It was a 'must have' stimulus plan that just couldn't wait. It had to be done immediately. It didn't matter that there was actually no stimulus in the fuckin' plan or that nobody could even have a chance to read the damned thing.

The really sad part is this. The friggin' public is so stupid that they still give Obama a 60% approval plan. It doesn't say much for the average voter or our public school system, does it?

I firmly believe that every American voter should have to pass the same test that every immigrant has to pass in order to get...

and.....if Obama lost means, the Rep. would be holding the white house right now...........have you seen that party lately........... ..........you want them in charge? REALLY??
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  • #19,024
  • Jul 16, 2009 9:59am Jul 16, 2009 9:59am
Quoting F.T.A
everybody wants jobs and stimulus RIGHT AWAY!!!. please realize that Obama has to undo the 8yrs of garbage that the past administration did.........he inherited bad unemployment and a severly damaged economy that sent the rest of the world to its knees. Please don't kock him because its barely been 6 months, remember he has 8yrs of damage to undo!!!!
Obama is single handedly causing more damage than was done in the last 60 years. That's a fact.

He's taken over the auto industry. He's taken over the banking industry. He's now trying to take over the health care industry. He's also trying to kill all the small business owners and energy consumers with his 'cap and tax.' He has also spent spent more than all of the combined presidents since this country was founded. That's a debt we'll never be able to pay off. Read the constitution, my friend. These bills he's gotten his dems to pass are unconstitutional. The constitution clearly states that gov't is not to interfere with private business.
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  • #19,025
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:01am Jul 16, 2009 10:01am
Quoting cisco
Obama is single handedly causing more damage than was done in the last 60 years. That's a fact.

He's taken over the auto industry. He's taken over the banking industry. He's now trying to take over the health care industry. He's also trying to kill all the small business owners and energy consumers with his 'cap and tax.' He has also spent spent more than all of the combined presidents since this country was founded. That's a debt we'll never be able to pay off. Read the constitution, my friend. These bills he's gotten his dems to pass are...


  • #19,026
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:02am Jul 16, 2009 10:02am
Quoting cisco
Obama is single handedly causing more damage than was done in the last 60 years. That's a fact.

He's taken over the auto industry. He's taken over the banking industry. He's now trying to take over the health care industry. He's also trying to kill all the small business owners and energy consumers with his 'cap and tax.' He has also spent spent more than all of the combined presidents since this country was founded. That's a debt we'll never be able to pay off. Read the constitution, my friend. These bills he's gotten his dems to pass are unconstitutional....

you need to think outside the box. did you want all those industries to fail? go bankrupt? he saved them so they can stay open and keep people employed. just imagine if they were allowed to fail and layed off EVERYONE!!
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  • #19,027
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:02am Jul 16, 2009 10:02am
Quoting F.T.A
and.....if Obama lost means, the Rep. would be holding the white house right now...........have you seen that party lately........... ..........you want them in charge? REALLY??
The republicans have done their part to screw things up. That's for sure. What they've done doesn't hold a candle to what's being done now, though. If you'll be honest you'll see that things were cruising along just fine until the dems won control in '06 then the bottom fell out.

Enough of my political rambling.
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  • #19,028
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:06am Jul 16, 2009 10:06am
Just back from Wisconson

I think he should take over the oil companies also!
  • #19,029
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:06am Jul 16, 2009 10:06am
Quoting F.T.A
you need to think outside the box. did you want all those industries to fail? go bankrupt? he saved them so they can stay open and keep people employed. just imagine if they were allowed to fail and layed off EVERYONE!!
Yes, they should all have gone under. When a weak company fails, another will come along that's well run and take it's place. That's exactly how capitalism works. It's also how nature works...the strong will survive.

We've now gone from capitalism to socialism and on to fascism. We're becoming exactly like europe where few work and they pay for all those who don't want to work.
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  • #19,030
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:08am Jul 16, 2009 10:08am
Quoting F.T.A
you need to think outside the box. did you want all those industries to fail? go bankrupt? he saved them so they can stay open and keep people employed. just imagine if they were allowed to fail and layed off EVERYONE!!
Yes, those industries did go bankrupt but not until we, the tax payers had given them Billions. They should have just let them go bankrupt and reorganize just like any other business. It is called free markets.
  • #19,031
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:10am Jul 16, 2009 10:10am
Quoting Shilva
Just back from Wisconson

I think he should take over the oil companies also!
Welcome back!

'Cap and tax will pretty much hurt the oil industry also. It will force them to buy refined gas from other countries where carbon standards don't exist. That'll cause gas to go through the roof.
Hi, my name is Barry and you can keep your doctor...
  • #19,032
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:12am Jul 16, 2009 10:12am
Quoting PippiNole
Yes, those industries did go bankrupt but not until we, the tax payers had given them Billions. They should have just let them go bankrupt and reorganize just like any other business. It is called free markets.
Amen, bro! At last, someone who actually understands capitalism!
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  • #19,033
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:13am Jul 16, 2009 10:13am


Quoting cisco
Yes, they should all have gone under. When a weak company fails, another will come along that's well run and take it's place. That's exactly how capitalism works. It's also how nature works...the strong will survive.

We've now gone from capitalism to socialism and on to fascism. We're becoming exactly like europe where few work and they pay for all those who don't want to work.
  • #19,034
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:14am Jul 16, 2009 10:14am
Quoting PippiNole
Yes, those industries did go bankrupt but not until we, the tax payers had given them Billions. They should have just let them go bankrupt and reorganize just like any other business. It is called free markets.
don't worry, the last surplus this country had was with the Dems. and the next surplus will be because of the Dems. they did it before and will do it again!!!! you are worried about billions, when we are looking to make trillions!!
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  • #19,035
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:18am Jul 16, 2009 10:18am
Quoting Shilva
Just back from Wisconson

I think he should take over the oil companies also!
Speaking of oil! I'm considering booking some more profit on my long position on oil. I read an economists review on Bloomberg last night calling for oil to be at $20 by year end. If so, I'll be a buyer again.

Welcome back from Wisconsin. Did you eat come cheese?
Just digging in the trenches like everyone else!
  • #19,036
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:18am Jul 16, 2009 10:18am
Quoting F.T.A
don't worry, the last surplus this country had was with the Dems. and the next surplus will be because of the Dems. they did it before and will do it again!!!! you are worried about billions, when we are looking to make trillions!!
The last balanced budget was done by Newt Gingrich and the Republican congress. Clinton refused 2 times to sign on to it. Finally his staff talked him into it because the public opposition to him was growing.
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  • #19,037
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:19am Jul 16, 2009 10:19am
Quoting F.T.A
don't worry, the last surplus this country had was with the Dems. and the next surplus will be because of the Dems. they did it before and will do it again!!!! you are worried about billions, when we are looking to make trillions!!
FTA I never once mentioned a political party. We are talking about capitalism and free markets. I for one do not want govt. trying to run anything because it has failed at everything it has tried to do.
  • #19,038
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:19am Jul 16, 2009 10:19am
hmm... hei folks . what do you think about those red dotted entries ?
its a good idea to take sells at that place or not ?
red 50Sma and 35SMa is blue one

thank you
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  • #19,039
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:23am Jul 16, 2009 10:23am
Quoting PippiNole
FTA I never once mentioned a political party. We are talking about capitalism and free markets. I for one do not want govt. trying to run anything because it has failed at everything it has tried to do.
I agree with you there bro! Thus why I'm trading with China and Japans money. They want a guarantee on their US Debt.
Just digging in the trenches like everyone else!
  • #19,040
  • Jul 16, 2009 10:24am Jul 16, 2009 10:24am
Quoting cisco
The last balanced budget was done by Newt Gingrich and the Republican congress. Clinton refused 2 times to sign on to it. Finally his staff talked him into it because the public opposition to him was growing.

So, you are telling me that the repubic party was the last to balance the budget? which is why the Dems. control everything now?
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