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  • #120,961
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:24am Jul 13, 2009 6:24am
Helo . BUY 1.3969 TP 1.4050
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  • #120,962
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:25am Jul 13, 2009 6:25am
Quoting Atlast
You still short?
what i am dont matter.. im playing differently.. and enterd at a different price.. you have to study the pair and how it moves when it is gonna turn or pierce a zone.. it acts different depending on what its going to do..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #120,963
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:26am Jul 13, 2009 6:26am
Quoting Atlast
Look to the futures market if you want absolute volume otherwise make do with tick data. It's the volume trend that's important, not absolute values.
Thanks very much Atlast, one more thing cleared from my "doubt list". Have been 8 month with demo and went on to live 2 month ago. Lost 50% of my real account, quit trading, went back to babypips and after 3 weeks started again. Now I manage to stay BE or very small winners, guess the problem are my tight SL due to the fear of loosing more money. The pressure I feel cause I want to get back my lost money does not allow me to close small winners, f*** greed....
  • #120,964
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:31am Jul 13, 2009 6:31am
Quoting socrates123
Thanks very much Atlast, one more thing cleared from my "doubt list". Have been 8 month with demo and went on to live 2 month ago. Lost 50% of my real account, quit trading, went back to babypips and after 3 weeks started again. Now I manage to stay BE or very small winners, guess the problem are my tight SL due to the fear of loosing more money. The pressure I feel cause I want to get back my lost money does not allow me to close small winners, f*** greed....
When you start afresh it means you put the losing streak behind, or you will always be playing catch up. Just let the small profits add up consistently and every now and again you will get a large winner, but don't bank on getting large winners, it just happens.
  • #120,965
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:31am Jul 13, 2009 6:31am
Quoting socrates123
Thanks very much Atlast, one more thing cleared from my "doubt list". Have been 8 month with demo and went on to live 2 month ago. Lost 50% of my real account, quit trading, went back to babypips and after 3 weeks started again. Now I manage to stay BE or very small winners, guess the problem are my tight SL due to the fear of loosing more money. The pressure I feel cause I want to get back my lost money does not allow me to close small winners, f*** greed....
What TF are you trading?
  • #120,966
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:37am Jul 13, 2009 6:37am
Quoting FxCba
What TF are you trading?
1. I use 4H/1H as my "trend indicator" (fibo, bollinger and pivots)
2. 15m in order to "zoom in" and have a closer view (Pivots as MR/MS, Daily)
3. Trade on 5m and 1m (guess here is the problem...) Trigger Volty, RSi, OsMA
  • #120,967
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:53am Jul 13, 2009 6:53am
Quoting socrates123
1. I use 4H/1H as my "trend indicator" (fibo, bollinger and pivots)
2. 15m in order to "zoom in" and have a closer view (Pivots as MR/MS, Daily)
3. Trade on 5m and 1m (guess here is the problem...) Trigger Volty, RSi, OsMA
May be you have to quit 1m
and see why you SL is reached, if your system gives good signals you should have more winners than loosers
  • #120,968
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:56am Jul 13, 2009 6:56am
sell 1.3981 TP 1.3902
  • #120,969
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:57am Jul 13, 2009 6:57am
Quoting socrates123
So, if it returns to 3969 according to your system you sell, right?

entered market at 3943 with SL at BE (came back and out).
entered market at 3945 again and moved SL to BE again (back and out again). Like this 3 times. I guess its the fear to loose and the greed to win more than I'm supposed too.
follow rulles sp 12p
  • #120,970
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:58am Jul 13, 2009 6:58am
Swings caught in a dynamic market with swing points occuring at pivots projected in advance.
All it takes is discipline, easier said than done.
NY open has a habit of changing market profile. Lets see what it does today.
Gator, what's your longer term view? Still short? Just curious, not critical as after several weeks I am now seeing market weakness towards the lower side.
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  • #120,971
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:02am Jul 13, 2009 7:02am
Quoting socrates123
Thanks very much Atlast, one more thing cleared from my "doubt list". Have been 8 month with demo and went on to live 2 month ago. Lost 50% of my real account, quit trading, went back to babypips and after 3 weeks started again. Now I manage to stay BE or very small winners, guess the problem are my tight SL due to the fear of loosing more money. The pressure I feel cause I want to get back my lost money does not allow me to close small winners, f*** greed....
socrates... looks like same history... kindly enable your PM setting !
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  • #120,972
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:03am Jul 13, 2009 7:03am
Quoting socrates123
1. I use 4H/1H as my "trend indicator" (fibo, bollinger and pivots)
2. 15m in order to "zoom in" and have a closer view (Pivots as MR/MS, Daily)
3. Trade on 5m and 1m (guess here is the problem...) Trigger Volty, RSi, OsMA
I see you have 3 components. 1. trend, 2 likely support and resistance areas.
So far, so good.
Now 3, all indicators (lagging) and you are using those to trigger a trade?
FWIW, make your trigger based off of PA (eg, candle high/low after hitting S/R or pattern trigger or candlestick trigger, or anything else that is not lagging)
Ignore if it's getting you the results.
  • #120,973
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:06am Jul 13, 2009 7:06am
Quoting Atlast
Swings caught in a dynamic market with swing points occuring at pivots projected in advance.
All it takes is discipline, easier said than done.
NY open has a habit of changing market profile. Lets see what it does today.
Gator, what's your longer term view? Still short? Just curious, not critical as after several weeks I am now seeing market weakness towards the lower side.
EU & GU 4 h TF
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  • #120,974
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:06am Jul 13, 2009 7:06am
Quoting FxCba
May be you have to quit 1m
and see why you SL is reached, if your system gives good signals you should have more winners than loosers
guess I move SL's too early to BE and do not take small profits due to greed. And when I believe to leave the SL at its original place (avg between 12 and 20 pips on 1min) it gets hit....I stick to my system, feel good with it, the problem I still sometimes see what I want to see and not what really is happening....
  • #120,975
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:16am Jul 13, 2009 7:16am
Quoting socrates123
guess I move SL's too early to BE and do not take small profits due to greed. And when I believe to leave the SL at its original place (avg between 12 and 20 pips on 1min) it gets hit....I stick to my system, feel good with it, the problem I still sometimes see what I want to see and not what really is happening....
Oh, well. you know the answer, now work on it !!!
  • #120,976
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:25am Jul 13, 2009 7:25am
Quoting socrates123
guess I move SL's too early to BE and do not take small profits due to greed. And when I believe to leave the SL at its original place (avg between 12 and 20 pips on 1min) it gets hit....I stick to my system, feel good with it, the problem I still sometimes see what I want to see and not what really is happening....
You've got the same problem i have regarding fear of getting stopped out, so moving BE to quick. My acct too small really.

So i think M1 scalping needs the smallest SL, specifically if you use it around s/r levels and retests of those. THV seems to be a very good system for this.
Look into THV, it gives you more secure trades, SL around 10, TP also if you trade M1.
Read one of the last posts, very good stuff.
  • #120,977
  • Edited 7:31am Jul 13, 2009 7:30am | Edited 7:31am
2nd inside bar on M15 (well allmost)....what's the hold up...
  • #120,978
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:36am Jul 13, 2009 7:36am
Quoting hoek_nl
You've got the same problem i have regarding fear of getting stopped out, so moving BE to quick. My acct too small really.

So i think M1 scalping needs the smallest SL, specifically if you use it around s/r levels and retests of those. THV seems to be a very good system for this.
Look into THV, it gives you more secure trades, SL around 10, TP also if you trade M1.
Read one of the last posts, very good stuff.
Cheers hoek nl. will get through it and let you know. I'm actually using the THVTrix v4 on the 1min TM which is very helpful, will look at the other indicators...thanks again mate
  • #120,979
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:40am Jul 13, 2009 7:40am
on 5min chart looks like descending triangle, pivot point is holding it up MACD has crossed downwards - possible short coming here but awaiting confirmation
  • #120,980
  • Jul 13, 2009 7:52am Jul 13, 2009 7:52am
Quoting nahman
on 5min chart looks like descending triangle, pivot point is holding it up MACD has crossed downwards - possible short coming here but awaiting confirmation

flipper :-)
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