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  • #12,021
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:06am Jul 13, 2009 5:06am
and the rest
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File Type: mq4 THV T3 Trix.mq4   5 KB | 2,831 downloads
File Type: mq4 THV T3 Trix MTF.mq4   5 KB | 3,918 downloads
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  • #12,022
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:21am Jul 13, 2009 5:21am
IP, what is the toogle HA good for, or is it just another name for an HA indi?


Quoting IrishPips
and the rest
  • #12,023
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:23am Jul 13, 2009 5:23am
Nice work, this indi calls TRIX_A, can you post it also please?

I,ve seen your TL EA last week, interisting as well.

Quoting fosgate_r
Hi all,
Regarding to TRIX, I developed this indicator in the past. It's still look good. May be this dashboard could be usefull.
Best .
  • #12,024
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:25am Jul 13, 2009 5:25am
dear friends,
please, can anyone highlight which is exactly the latest indicators you are using?
I am still on divergence v 4.01, but in some screenshots I see using v 5.0
where can I get the latest setup?
probably update necessary on FIRST post, because I tried to reset it, and still the same indicators and template.

also a friend of mine have downloaded one a bit different, with ROUND pivot lines, see attachment - is it still in use?
thanks
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  • #12,025
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:28am Jul 13, 2009 5:28am
V4.01 and V5 are the same, onle the default settings are different.

The round lines are from a COG indicator which is not part of THV since V1.

COG is a countertrend trading and THV is trend trading.



Quoting klavins
dear friends,
please, can anyone highlight which is exactly the latest indicators you are using?
I am still on divergence v 4.01, but in some screenshots I see using v 5.0
where can I get the latest setup?
probably update necessary on FIRST post, because I tried to reset it, and still the same indicators and template.

also a friend of mine have downloaded one a bit different, with ROUND pivot lines, see attachment - is it still in use?
thanks
  • #12,026
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:28am Jul 13, 2009 5:28am
Quoting IrishPips
You are quite right--we've all been there. Sorry about that.

All needed indicators are in the folder as well as template.

Template has my settings for Trix MTF 5M and default for 1M

Trix Ichi lights -in order from top to bottom:

5,1,15,60

Optimized color settings so there's no question about what's going on.


Edit: guess I can't upload compressed folder so all indicators will be in 2 posts

Thank you very much IrishPips.

You could not believe how many indicators and template versions I collected reading all thread long.
At least the original/final one I believe!

A final document how to trade with this THV system will be the cherry on the cake.

Thanks again.

Nonnodom
I will not give your shared stuff to anybody else. Only just mine.
  • #12,027
  • Edited 6:14am Jul 13, 2009 5:44am | Edited 6:14am
Quoting IrishPips
and the rest
Here's a 5M template per request.

Ichi Cloud order

15, 5, 30, 60

15M trix not necessary here higher TF allow for a better picture of PA--his is where candles come into play.

5M trix settings aT3=20 bt3=30


I've also removed the color from the Trix coral--- on 5M the color doesn't make a difference-and will confuse you. It's the aqua line.

However, with higher TF's you need smaller numbers on the indicators to get more accurate results, so I've put in my own "coral" the purple one--which not only gives you a more accurate signal, but shows you which whay the price is going99continue the line with your imagination.

You choose which hull line you like. Mine is just a moving average of EMA 21 shift 1 [close]

I also don't wait for 3 lights--15M confirmation is sufficient pending you mind the Trix [for safe trades] .

All indicators are in previous posts.

Also to note when trading Trix on higher TF's than 1M--for this you're not necessarily looking for the hull line of the Trix to be above/below 0--you're looking for the thin signal line to pass through for a valid signal-- like in picture below there's a nice buy trade signal line crossed through before the hull line. Double bounce off S/R--nice [I took some of that move myself]
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  • #12,028
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:49am Jul 13, 2009 5:49am
Quoting cobraforex
IP, what is the toogle HA good for, or is it just another name for an HA indi?

That's Miss Pips' Toggle HA indicator--- I like it as it has alerts and also has the option to see the regular candles.

Just keepin' things pure THV. [if that's OK]
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  • #12,029
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:50am Jul 13, 2009 5:50am
Quoting IrishPips
You are quite right--we've all been there. Sorry about that.

All needed indicators are in the folder as well as template.

Template has my settings for Trix MTF 5M and default for 1M

Trix Ichi lights -in order from top to bottom:

5,1,15,60

Optimized color settings so there's no question about what's going on.


Edit: guess I can't upload compressed folder so all indicators will be in 2 posts
Thanks mate - you just made a lot of people happy

You can actually upload a compressed .zip file, but then you run the risk of lots of people saying the file is corrupt as they can not open it .... hmmm

So I think always best to just post the indi's

Have a great day
  • #12,030
  • Jul 13, 2009 5:53am Jul 13, 2009 5:53am
Quoting cobraforex

The round lines are from a COG indicator which is not part of THV since V1.

COG is a countertrend trading and THV is trend trading.
tnx cobra, just then, please confirm, that in the very first post is the latest tested version of indicators, and no rules have changed (but not updated) in the first post.
thanks,
Klavins
  • #12,031
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:01am Jul 13, 2009 6:01am
Quoting macman
Thanks mate - you just made a lot of people happy

You can actually upload a compressed .zip file, but then you run the risk of lots of people saying the file is corrupt as they can not open it .... hmmm

So I think always best to just post the indi's

Have a great day

No problem--only I tried to do a *.RAR file.

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  • #12,032
  • Edited 6:31am Jul 13, 2009 6:16am | Edited 6:31am
What I mean is that I tested the 6 point mtf system with a fixed tp at 10 pips, because I didn't have the patience to manage the trade which was my own limitation, and that's why that is what is recommended in the mtf manual. The more advanced traders don't do this. They manage their trades and target something like a resistence line or a 00 level, or they wait until the trix turns red or they trail their stops instead of just getting out at 10 pips. 10 pips is fine, but the good traders with more patience get more. (See Cobra's first post -Exit: Faster Trix changes color and/or touch of a known good resistance/support level.)

Quoting IrishPips
Miss Pips: I believe in was the original intention when THV was created that an acceptable [and attainable] target was 10 pips off of 1M tf. [correct me if I'm wrong] And I've read the entire thread of THV from start to finish--when I first came "on board" so to speak.


How about middle ground--aim for 10 pips and the more the better--just if you get more than 10--don't leave with anything less?


Been a trader for a while now.

Tradewell: I understand your point of view--but I really do believe that if THV is traded properly, you shouldn't...
  • #12,033
  • Jul 13, 2009 6:19am Jul 13, 2009 6:19am
Quoting cobraforex
Nice work, this indi calls TRIX_A, can you post it also please?

I,ve seen your TL EA last week, interisting as well.
Thanks Cobra
Do you mean Linexcutors EA? Hehe ... yeah, I am still working on it.
Here is the TRIX_A ...
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  • #12,034
  • Edited 7:41am Jul 13, 2009 7:22am | Edited 7:41am
I also find I like the MTF trix indie very much because it shows you the shape of the trix.

However, regarding the repainting of the trix histo - the trix histo shows you what happened minute by minute iwith the trix indie inside a five minute bar on a one minute chart (for example). If the inside that five minues the trix histo was green for two minutes and red for three it shows you two red bars and three green ones. After the five minutes is up however all it knows is the final result, not what happend in real time. If you initialze the trix histo or add it to the chart after that five minutes was up, and the final result on the five min chart was red you will see five red bars. You are going to have that problem with any mtf indie.
In addition, the trix itself sometimes repaints backward one bar, making it not match the mtf indies.

Here are two examples. One shows the mtf histo showing the change in the bars minute by minute from red to green on the one min chart while the mtf trix is showing green at the end of the 5 min period on the one min chart (the actual 5 m trix is red by that time), and then after you init the mtf trix on the 1 m chart, it shows red for that same period. The second shows the actual slow 15 trix red from 2:45 to 3:00 while the mtf slow trix is green.





I also don't use the repainting Trix indicator [histo]

I'd like to personally thank whoever created the "MTF" Trix indie-saves me from switching screens so much.

Glad to help when I can-love to read the posts here.[/quote]
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  • #12,035
  • Jul 13, 2009 8:00am Jul 13, 2009 8:00am
Considerations:

1.) Break of 5 Min T/L
2.) Break of 5 Min TRIX T/L
3.) Rejection @ 1 min Trix T/L
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  • #12,036
  • Jul 13, 2009 8:12am Jul 13, 2009 8:12am
Quoting MissPips
I also find I like the MTF trix indie very much because it shows you the shape of the trix.

However, regarding the repainting of the trix histo - the trix histo shows you what happened minute by minute iwith the trix indie inside a five minute bar on a one minute chart (for example). If the inside that five minues the trix histo was green for two minutes and red for three it shows you two red bars and three green ones. After the five minutes is up however all it knows is the final result, not what happend in real time. If you initialze the trix...
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Hi MissPips.

I believe that maybe the repainting could not be a problem during live trading, but it could be for looking at the past trying to understand entries and exits.

I am a newbye in coding, but it could not be possible to use the MQL array functions in order to record indies status bar per bar, and show only those data in the graph ?

Nonnodom
I will not give your shared stuff to anybody else. Only just mine.
  • #12,037
  • Jul 13, 2009 8:36am Jul 13, 2009 8:36am
Hi Nonnodom,

Yes, you are correct. Repainting is not a problem during live trading (using the trix histo anyway because it shows you minute by minute what is happening. I'm not sure about the mtf trix because the screen shot I posted above shows it is green for 5 1 min bars exactly at the close of a bar that closed red on the 5 min trix, and then red for that period when it is initialized a few minutes later after that 5m bar had closed. If you were trading using the trix histo you would have seen that the 5 m trix had gone red, but using the mtf trix you would not have) .

Repainting is only a problem with the trix histo when you are trying to manually backtest by looking at a chart to which you have added the trix histo 'after the fact'.

I'm not sure I know what you mean about using an array. I do use the mtf build in time arrays and what you see in real time is the status of the trix on the higer tf, minute by minute. But if you add the trix histo to the one minute chart after a particular 5 min bar is closed (for example) it doesn't know what happened during each of those five minutes with the 5 min trix. All it knows at that point is the final result of the 5 min bar at close (red or green) so it paints all those 5 1 min bars red or all green.


Hi MissPips.

I believe that maybe the repainting could not be a problem during live trading, but it could be for looking at the past trying to understand entries and exits.

I am a newbye in coding, but it could not be possible to use the MQL array functions in order to record indies status bar per bar, and show only those data in the graph ?

Nonnodom[/quote]
  • #12,038
  • Jul 13, 2009 9:11am Jul 13, 2009 9:11am
Quoting MissPips
Hi Nonnodom,

Yes, you are correct. Repainting is not a problem during live trading (using the trix histo anyway because it shows you minute by minute what is happening. I'm not sure about the mtf trix because the screen shot I posted above shows it is green...
Thank you for the answer MissPips.

You are right; I am probably confused on the way of working of arrays. Maybe also they go overwritten by new incoming data.

I was just thinking to save the timeframe arrays in a file, and add to them a new status value at each incoming TF bar, so that opening the chart I could find the past data drawn retrieved from that file.

Thank you for your hard work and for sharing it.
Cheers.

Nonnodom
I will not give your shared stuff to anybody else. Only just mine.
  • #12,039
  • Jul 13, 2009 9:20am Jul 13, 2009 9:20am
One of the advantages of trading multiple pairs is you can avoid the lottery of the News Release. However no currency pair actually moves in isolation - it is often the ripple in the pond effect.

If you were trading EURGBP this morning you had no immediate news releases showing, but 1st cousin GBPUSD did have a news release and both pairs started moving at exactly the same time.

So if you are trying to avoid the news release lottery, also check the other close family members.

Good trading to all ...
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  • #12,040
  • Jul 13, 2009 9:41am Jul 13, 2009 9:41am
Maybe you could do that, but I think it would be really complicated because you would have to be working with native MT4 data coming in and stored data from the indie, which would also have to be intermixed with native mt4 data when you didn't have any stored data for that period(for all possible timeframes). It's beyond my abilities :-).

I was just thinking to save the timeframe arrays in a file, and add to them a new status value at each incoming TF bar, so that opening the chart I could find the past data drawn retrieved from that file.

Thank you for your hard work and for sharing it.
Cheers.

Nonnodom[/quote]
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